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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:14 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:You're still here gloating, all the while conveniently ignoring my previous post. Don't want to admit the truth?

The world of NationStates is much bigger than your precious little CCD. You're an amoeba in a tank full of sharks.

Oh, but I must really get going. I have much more useful things to do, really. See you until you decided to poke me again.

We've had the all important WA Secretary-General pop by for a chat earlier, apparently caused unprecidented cooperation between regional rivals, and had the WA Elite step in to stop our candidacy for Sec-Gen. Doesn't sound like an amoeba to me.

Oh, and you still aren't answering my question. Absolute classic.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:15 pm

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Bloodshade wrote:Weird how you're still showing your face, NQ. You'd think getting memed on in a joke of an election would make you bury your head in the sand but I guess you still want to earn some brownie points with daddy and mommy. :p

:roll: Of course, I'm a sucker for the publicity.

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:24 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Oh, and you still aren't answering my question. Absolute classic.

Your question is a loaded question asked in such a way ("The fact of the matter is... Will you at least admit that is true?") that you have a pretext to tarnish Valentine Z - either as a "pawn of the WA Elite" if he says "yes", or as an "outright liar" if he says "no". Either way, what you're trying to do is completely antithetical both to his NS philosophy and to good old fashioned common sense.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:30 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Oh, and you still aren't answering my question. Absolute classic.

Your question is a loaded question asked in such a way ("The fact of the matter is... Will you at least admit that is true?")

I don't actually think this is an unreasonable take, so I'll reword the question:

"Did a collaboration of influential nations within the World Assembly organise a redistribution of votes to your campaign in order to stop Jocospor from making the General Election?"

Better?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:35 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Your question is a loaded question asked in such a way ("The fact of the matter is... Will you at least admit that is true?")

I don't actually think this is an unreasonable take, so I'll reword the question:

"Did a collaboration of influential nations within the World Assembly organise a redistribution of votes to your campaign in order to stop Jocospor from making the General Election?"

Better?

So what if they did? You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it and:

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:37 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I don't actually think this is an unreasonable take, so I'll reword the question:

"Did a collaboration of influential nations within the World Assembly organise a redistribution of votes to your campaign in order to stop Jocospor from making the General Election?"

Better?

So what if they did? You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it and:

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:40 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:So what if they did? You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it and:

(Image)

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Not sure how that image is relevant to what I just said. :roll:
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:41 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:So what if they did? You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it and:

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But NCR wasn't sealioning you. Mainly because sealioning is doing something under the pretense of politeness. I think NCR has been perfectly frank with how they see you and your region.
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Postby Nouveau Quebecois » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:46 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I don't actually think this is an unreasonable take, so I'll reword the question:

"Did a collaboration of influential nations within the World Assembly organise a redistribution of votes to your campaign in order to stop Jocospor from making the General Election?"

Better?

So what if they did? You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it and:

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:47 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:(Image)

But NCR wasn't sealioning you. Mainly because sealioning is doing something under the pretense of politeness. I think NCR has been perfectly frank with how they see you and your region.

I mean, if they interpret "You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it" as being polite, then I dread to see what they think rudeness looks like...
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Postby The Gilded Star » Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:57 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:The fact of the matter is that various influential groups within the World Assembly, most comprising a part of the WA Elite and including all of the other four candidates who made the general election, organised a redistribution of votes to your campaign in order to stop Jocospor from making the General. Will you at least admit this is true?


I have found recorded footage that is irrefutable evidence that your accusation is undeniably true. Let us see them try to hide it now:

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:22 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:(Image)

But NCR wasn't sealioning you. Mainly because sealioning is doing something under the pretense of politeness. I think NCR has been perfectly frank with how they see you and your region.

Sealioning doesn't necessarily involve maintaining a pretence of politeness. They're implanting themselves into a conversation that doesn't involve them, while twisting the topic we were discussing and asking questions in bad faith (that I've already answered, multiple times).

The Gilded Star wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:The fact of the matter is that various influential groups within the World Assembly, most comprising a part of the WA Elite and including all of the other four candidates who made the general election, organised a redistribution of votes to your campaign in order to stop Jocospor from making the General. Will you at least admit this is true?


I have found recorded footage that is irrefutable evidence that your accusation is undeniably true. Let us see them try to hide it now:

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At least this form of criticism is amusing. NCR take note.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:30 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
South Reinkalistan wrote:But NCR wasn't sealioning you. Mainly because sealioning is doing something under the pretense of politeness. I think NCR has been perfectly frank with how they see you and your region.

Sealioning doesn't necessarily involve maintaining a pretence of politeness. They're implanting themselves into a conversation that doesn't involve them, while twisting the topic we were discussing and asking questions in bad faith (that I've already answered, multiple times).

It does though:

Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity. It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate"


So the accusation of sealioning was total bullshit. And since there are no closed threads here, how you can say "they're implanting themselves into a conversation that doesn't involve them" I have absolutely no fucking idea. And I'm not asking questions in bad faith, in fact I wasn't even asking a question at that point.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:34 pm

The New California Republic wrote:And I'm not asking questions in bad faith, in fact I wasn't even asking a question at that point.

No point in replying to the rest of your post when you're literally denying reality.

The New California Republic wrote:So what if they did? You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it and:
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:40 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:And I'm not asking questions in bad faith, in fact I wasn't even asking a question at that point.

No point in replying to the rest of your post when you're literally denying reality.

The New California Republic wrote:So what if they did? You all had it coming because of all the various bullshit you have pulled, so quit being salty about it and:

A rhetorical question. Back to hairsplitting again so you don't have to respond I see. :roll:
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:49 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:No point in replying to the rest of your post when you're literally denying reality.


A rhetorical question. Back to hairsplitting again so you don't have to respond I see. :roll:

How am I supposed to know your question is rhetorical from text? That exact question is what's been debated for the last five pages of this thread, but apparently this time it's rhetorical, okay. Even if that's the case, is a rhetorical question not a question?

For someone who didn't know what sealioning is a few hours ago, I'm glad you were able to pull up the Wikipedia page and copy paste what it says the definition of sealioning is. That's great for you, especially when it acknowledges directly after that "It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate"." which you conveniently ignored.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:56 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:A rhetorical question. Back to hairsplitting again so you don't have to respond I see. :roll:

How am I supposed to know your question is rhetorical from text?

Sorry but anyone else would be able to see from the context that the question is rhetorical, so I can only conclude you are intentionally interpreting it in a fallacious manner.

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Even if that's the case, is a rhetorical question not a question?

And no, a rhetorical question is not a question that is actually being asked, it is intended as a statement more than anything.

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:For someone who didn't know what sealioning is a few hours ago, I'm glad you were able to pull up the Wikipedia page and copy paste what it says the definition of sealioning is. That's great for you, especially when it acknowledges directly after that "It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate"." which you conveniently ignored.

Except, as we have seen, the definition does not apply to me at all, as I make no attempt to be civil towards the CCD.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:48 pm

I switched my vote from Caelapes to Valentine Z of my own initiative in the hope of keeping Jocospor out of the final 5. Nobody is obliged to follow anyone else's suggestions if they don't agree with them. If the WA Elite had asked people to switch their votes to Jocospor in order to block Valentine Z do you honestly think that would have happened? And have you considered why not?

You've spent ages moaning that you're victims of delegate block votes. Turns out that when it's strictly one player one vote you still lose.

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Postby Kaystein » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:54 pm

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Postby Yokiria » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:17 pm

All this going on in the NSGP forum thread, and meanwhile, I've just been silently sharing the evidence of CCD being OOC fascist. Apparently, the best way to dissuade people from taking the CCD's side is to show them proof of what the CCD is.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:20 pm

Yokiria wrote:All this going on in the NSGP forum thread, and meanwhile, I've just been silently sharing the evidence of CCD being OOC fascist. Apparently, the best way to dissuade people from taking the CCD's side is to show them proof of what the CCD is.

lmao sure thing bud.
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Postby Fauxia » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:28 pm

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Yokiria wrote:All this going on in the NSGP forum thread, and meanwhile, I've just been silently sharing the evidence of CCD being OOC fascist. Apparently, the best way to dissuade people from taking the CCD's side is to show them proof of what the CCD is.

lmao sure thing bud.

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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:32 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Yokiria wrote:All this going on in the NSGP forum thread, and meanwhile, I've just been silently sharing the evidence of CCD being OOC fascist. Apparently, the best way to dissuade people from taking the CCD's side is to show them proof of what the CCD is.

lmao sure thing bud.

Well, it worked on me, and I'm the guy who usually finds the far right regions to be less irritating than the people who go after them. Keep us in touch with how your secret war for world domination against Toby Ziegler goes.

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:38 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:lmao sure thing bud.

Well, it worked on me, and I'm the guy who usually finds the far right regions to be less irritating than the people who go after them. Keep us in touch with how your secret war for world domination against Toby Ziegler goes.

I mean I haven't personally seen what this bloke is apparently spreading so I can't really defend against it.

If you really want to believe what is likely falsified, modified or taken out-of-context evidence, sure, you do you.
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