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Postby The Chuck » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:03 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yeah that liberation repeal is not going to happen now. It's going to be on the books until the end of time.

The only way it'll get repealed is if the region gets raided.

And let me thank the Security Council again for bestowing upon us this badge of honour. That must be the second time just in this thread!

Now personally, my goal was to be the first region to complete the trifecta - a Liberation, a Commend, and a Condemn - we can probably resume work on the second part soonish I think now all the drama is over?


Don't speak so quickly Joc and Shrew, who knows what some of us still have stowed away.
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Postby Darcania » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:14 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Now personally, my goal was to be the first region to complete the trifecta - a Liberation, a Commend, and a Condemn - we can probably resume work on the second part soonish I think now all the drama is over?

You're really dismissing severe OOC concerns as "drama" that will simply blow over?

I don't know what else to say. Whatever members of CCD are seeing this, is this really how you think leaders should act? After all those apologies, after all those talks of reform... to them, all this is just "drama" that will simply blow over. There will be no change coming from Jocospor. If anybody in CCD wants change, it must come from the bottom up, because those at the top want things to stay exactly the way they are, rot and all.

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:15 pm

The Chuck wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:And let me thank the Security Council again for bestowing upon us this badge of honour. That must be the second time just in this thread!

Now personally, my goal was to be the first region to complete the trifecta - a Liberation, a Commend, and a Condemn - we can probably resume work on the second part soonish I think now all the drama is over?


Don't speak so quickly Joc and Shrew, who knows what some of us still have stowed away.

lmao okay champ. Make sure to keep spreading it all out slowly to make your short moment in the limelight last just a little bit longer.

But no - you don't have anything left because - as our sources say - the (wrongly) so-called "doxxing attenpt" was the very last of it. Bye :)
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Postby The Chuck » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:20 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
Don't speak so quickly Joc and Shrew, who knows what some of us still have stowed away.

lmao okay champ. Make sure to keep spreading it all out slowly to make your short moment in the limelight last just a little bit longer.

But no - you don't have anything left because - as our sources say - the (wrongly) so-called "doxxing attenpt" was the very last of it. Bye :)


The last few times you, Joco, and Depackya have thought I was out of stuff you were proven wrong, want me to prove you wrong again? Sure it won't be as big as the revelation of Jocospor's dumb choice of colluding with the Farkasfalka members but it still will be of an interest none the less.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:22 pm

The Chuck wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:lmao okay champ. Make sure to keep spreading it all out slowly to make your short moment in the limelight last just a little bit longer.

But no - you don't have anything left because - as our sources say - the (wrongly) so-called "doxxing attenpt" was the very last of it. Bye :)


The last few times you, Joco, and Depackya have thought I was out of stuff you were proven wrong, want me to prove you wrong again? Sure it won't be as big as the revelation of Jocospor's dumb choice of colluding with the Farkasfalka members but it still will be of an interest none the less.

You're wrong, we've known you had this stuff for months :*
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Postby The Chuck » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:25 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
The last few times you, Joco, and Depackya have thought I was out of stuff you were proven wrong, want me to prove you wrong again? Sure it won't be as big as the revelation of Jocospor's dumb choice of colluding with the Farkasfalka members but it still will be of an interest none the less.

You're wrong, we've known you had this stuff for months :*


¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Hasn't done you much good so far has it?
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Postby Yokiria » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:29 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
Don't speak so quickly Joc and Shrew, who knows what some of us still have stowed away.

lmao okay champ. Make sure to keep spreading it all out slowly to make your short moment in the limelight last just a little bit longer.

But no - you don't have anything left because - as our sources say - the (wrongly) so-called "doxxing attenpt" was the very last of it. Bye :)


You clearly don't understand how this works.

Your region covered up a plan to doxx Reploid Productions, a NationStates administrator. This isn't temporary drama. This isn't an in-character event. This is OOC fuckery. You're in a new arena now. Being so arrogantly unapologetic may have served you well before, but it'll hurt you now.

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:You're wrong, we've known you had this stuff for months :*

... Christ. And it just keeps getting worse.
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Postby Francois Isidore » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:30 pm

Does anyone, and I mean anyone in this region have any idea how to quote someone’s post without filling up three scrolling screen lengths on mobile just to post a one word response?! Seriously, it’s not that difficult. You quote the post, then replace the person you’re quoting’s words with ~Snip~. I don’t know what’s so hard to grasp, but judging from the stubbornness of your administration I’m sure anything that’s remotely courteous to anyone else is a foreign concept to you lot.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:35 pm

The Chuck wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:You're wrong, we've known you had this stuff for months :*


¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Hasn't done you much good so far has it?

I mean, the SC is clean now, your spies are gone, you have no more intel remaining and the Confederation remains as strong as ever.

Honestly, it really hasn't done too much harm either.

Yokiria wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:lmao okay champ. Make sure to keep spreading it all out slowly to make your short moment in the limelight last just a little bit longer.

But no - you don't have anything left because - as our sources say - the (wrongly) so-called "doxxing attenpt" was the very last of it. Bye :)


You clearly don't understand how this works.

Your region covered up a plan to doxx Reploid Productions, a NationStates administrator. This isn't temporary drama. This isn't an in-character event. This is OOC fuckery. You're in a new arena now. Being so arrogantly unapologetic may have served you well before, but it'll hurt you now.

We didn't cover up a plan to doxx anyone, we dismantled said plan and ensured it was never conducted. Chuck is, by his own admission, just as guilty as Jocospor on this and yet somehow escapes criticism. Huh.
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Postby The Gilded Star » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:36 pm

Darcania wrote:I don't know what else to say. Whatever members of CCD are seeing this, is this really how you think leaders should act? After all those apologies, after all those talks of reform... to them, all this is just "drama" that will simply blow over. There will be no change coming from Jocospor. If anybody in CCD wants change, it must come from the bottom up, because those at the top want things to stay exactly the way they are, rot and all.


Given how anyone that doesn't express fervent undying worship of Jocospor seems to be getting ejected, suppressed, or denounced, and the alleged reform is already being dismissed as some sort of scheme by traitors, it's probably pretty safe to say the only change in CCD will be it becoming an even larger cult of personality around Jocospor.

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Postby Yokiria » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:39 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:We didn't cover up a plan to doxx anyone, we dismantled said plan and ensured it was never conducted.


"Dismantled" by deleting the Discord chats of it taking place. I wonder what else you've "dismantled" to save your own asses.

Also, "ensure it was never conducted"? How? You didn't report them to NS staff. You don't own the region that was planning to do it. You didn't share this with the greater NS community. You sat on it until there was a whistleblower, and now you're doing damage control.
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Postby Latrovia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:39 pm

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Postby Castelia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:41 pm

Yokiria wrote:You sat on it until there was a whistleblower, and now you're doing damage control.


A very poor damage control attempt at that. :roll: Shit just keeps getting worse and worse.
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Postby PotatoFarmers » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:52 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yeah that liberation repeal is not going to happen now. It's going to be on the books until the end of time.

The only way it'll get repealed is if the region gets raided.

And let me thank the Security Council again for bestowing upon us this badge of honour. That must be the second time just in this thread!

Now personally, my goal was to be the first region to complete the trifecta - a Liberation, a Commend, and a Condemn - we can probably resume work on the second part soonish I think now all the drama is over?

I heard that you wanted another badge of honor? I mean we could get a second Liberation for you there. If anything I doubt anyone would want to Condemn or Commend the region, the latter for obvious reasons, while the former would not work to great effect if the leaders, and not the natives, are the ones that are ruining the region.
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Postby Yokiria » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:55 pm

PotatoFarmers wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:And let me thank the Security Council again for bestowing upon us this badge of honour. That must be the second time just in this thread!

Now personally, my goal was to be the first region to complete the trifecta - a Liberation, a Commend, and a Condemn - we can probably resume work on the second part soonish I think now all the drama is over?

I heard that you wanted another badge of honor? I mean we could get a second Liberation for you there. If anything I doubt anyone would want to Condemn or Commend the region, the latter for obvious reasons, while the former would not work to great effect if the leaders, and not the natives, are the ones that are ruining the region.


The first Liberation does seem outdated now.
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Postby The Chuck » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:56 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Hasn't done you much good so far has it?

I mean, the SC is clean now, your spies are gone, you have no more intel remanining and the Confederation is remains strong.

Honestly, it really hasn't done too much harm either.

Yokiria wrote:
You clearly don't understand how this works.

Your region covered up a plan to doxx Reploid Productions, a NationStates administrator. This isn't temporary drama. This isn't an in-character event. This is OOC fuckery. You're in a new arena now. Being so arrogantly unapologetic may have served you well before, but it'll hurt you now.

We didn't cover up a plan to doxx anyone, we dismantled said plan and ensured it was never conducted. Chuck is, by his own admission, just as guilty as Jocospor on this and yet somehow escapes criticism. Huh.


"Dismantled"

Considering this doxxing discussion originally occurred when? Around April/May of last year and it hasn't surfaced until I had to open my mouth about it goes to show how conniving and screwed up this all is.

And fuck yeah, I accept responsibility for not opening up about this sooner. I filed my first GHR about this about 117ish days ago and that one was where it was poorly worded. I should have piped up sooner but I didn't and so that one was on me and I accept it unlike you lads. If Jocospor were actually handed punishment for this, I would gladly take the same punishment or worse since I am guilty of it too. At least I made an attempt to reach out unlike you two.
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Postby Yokiria » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:59 pm

The Chuck wrote:Considering this doxxing discussion originally occurred when? Around April/May of last year and it hasn't surfaced until I had to open my mouth about it goes to show how conniving and screwed up this all is.


CCD sat on this since last spring?

It really does keep getting worse.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:04 pm

The Gilded Star wrote:
Darcania wrote:I don't know what else to say. Whatever members of CCD are seeing this, is this really how you think leaders should act? After all those apologies, after all those talks of reform... to them, all this is just "drama" that will simply blow over. There will be no change coming from Jocospor. If anybody in CCD wants change, it must come from the bottom up, because those at the top want things to stay exactly the way they are, rot and all.


Given how anyone that doesn't express fervent undying worship of Jocospor seems to be getting ejected, suppressed, or denounced, and the alleged reform is already being dismissed as some sort of scheme by traitors, it's probably pretty safe to say the only change in CCD will be it becoming an even larger cult of personality around Jocospor.

That's funny because no one outside of the Supreme Council has any idea of what the reforms will look like.

And yes, before you bring up Castelia, he doesn't know either because we cut him out of all discussions of importance weeks ago :)

Yokiria wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:We didn't cover up a plan to doxx anyone, we dismantled said plan and ensured it was never conducted.


"Dismantled" by deleting the Discord chats of it taking place. I wonder what else you've "dismantled" to save your own asses.

Also, "ensure it was never conducted"? How? You didn't report them to NS staff. You don't own the region that was planning to do it. You didn't share this with the greater NS community. You sat on it until there was a whistleblower, and now you're doing damage control.

While that's the narrative Chuck wants you to believe it's not quite exactly what happened.

The Chuck wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I mean, the SC is clean now, your spies are gone, you have no more intel remanining and the Confederation is remains strong.

Honestly, it really hasn't done too much harm either.


We didn't cover up a plan to doxx anyone, we dismantled said plan and ensured it was never conducted. Chuck is, by his own admission, just as guilty as Jocospor on this and yet somehow escapes criticism. Huh.


"Dismantled"

Considering this doxxing discussion originally occurred when? Around April/May of last year and it hasn't surfaced until I had to open my mouth about it goes to show how conniving and screwed up this all is.

And fuck yeah, I accept responsibility for not opening up about this sooner. I filed my first GHR about this about 117ish days ago and that one was where it was poorly worded. I should have piped up sooner but I didn't and so that one was on me and I accept it unlike you lads. If Jocospor were actually handed punishment for this, I would gladly take the same punishment or worse since I am guilty of it too. At least I made an attempt to reach out unlike you two.

You brought it up almost a year too late, when any perceived danger from it had well and truly passed.

Don't even fucking try to pretend you brought this to light because you were worried for the mod in question. You brought this up because it was dirt on the Confederation and this is all you have left - this is the last Hail Mary.

It's absolutely hilarious to me that all these people are shunning the Confederation for this when you deserve it two-fold. I honestly feel sorry for the people who are buying this garbage when you're so obviously fake.
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Postby The Chuck » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:12 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote: -Snip-


If the powers that be deemed that punishment should be handed out, I would gladly take a DEAT/DOS if Jocospor got one too. Yeah it's probably foolish to say that but fuck it, as you've said I'm just as guilty so might as well sleep in the bed I made. At least I can own up to my fuck ups instead of passing the buck at every chance. To bad you can't say the same Shrew.
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Postby Yokiria » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:15 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Yokiria wrote:
"Dismantled" by deleting the Discord chats of it taking place. I wonder what else you've "dismantled" to save your own asses.

Also, "ensure it was never conducted"? How? You didn't report them to NS staff. You don't own the region that was planning to do it. You didn't share this with the greater NS community. You sat on it until there was a whistleblower, and now you're doing damage control.

While that's the narrative Chuck wants you to believe it's not quite exactly what happened.

Prove that then. So far, you've only gone after Chuck's character, which makes it look like you can't contest the actual substance here.
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Postby The Gilded Star » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:16 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:That's funny because no one outside of the Supreme Council has any idea of what the reforms will look like.


Jocospor's the one that said it. I assume he's privy to the Supreme Council.

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:19 pm

The Chuck wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote: -Snip-


If the powers that be deemed that punishment should be handed out, I would gladly take a DEAT/DOS if Jocospor got one too. Yeah it's probably foolish to say that but fuck it, as you've said I'm just as guilty so might as well sleep in the bed I made. At least I can own up to my fuck ups instead of passing the buck at every chance. To bad you can't say the same Shrew.

I'm not sure what you want from me on this one, given I wasn't part of this discussion and never even knew it happened until I was made aware you stored it as dirt for one last cheap shot at the CCD.

We've absolutely made mistakes in the past, and the vast majority I did own up to in my apology about a week ago. But this isn't about those mistakes anymore, this is about constant shit flinging from one side that I'm very glad is finally over :)
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Postby Yokiria » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:24 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I'm not sure what you want from me on this one, given I wasn't part of this discussion and never even knew it happened until I was made aware you stored it as dirt for one last cheap shot at the CCD.

So once you learned what happened, what did you do to remedy it?
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ShrewLlamaLand wrote:We've absolutely made mistakes in the past, and the vast majority I did own up to in my apology about a week ago.

"The vast majority" meaning that you didn't own up to this... and still aren't owning up to it.

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:But this isn't about those mistakes anymore, this is about constant shit flinging from one side that I'm very glad is finally over :)

You're kidding yourself with this sentence.
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:45 pm

Yokiria wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I'm not sure what you want from me on this one, given I wasn't part of this discussion and never even knew it happened until I was made aware you stored it as dirt for one last cheap shot at the CCD.

So once you learned what happened, what did you do to remedy it?
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Let me bring up an analogy I used earlier, and still stand by:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:That's simply not the case here. It's the in-game equivalent of shaming a child for not reporting a school friend to the FBI for making a distasteful joke about school shootings.

Let me build on it: this is the equivalent of shaming a child for not reporting his friend, who told him about another kid making a distasteful school shooter joke... almost a year ago.

There's simply nothing there left to report, there wasn't any danger of doxxing when it happened and was shut down originally and even if you don't believe that, there certainly wasn't any danger almost a year later. Tell me, what would you do in this situation?

Yokiria wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:But this isn't about those mistakes anymore, this is about constant shit flinging from one side that I'm very glad is finally over :)

You're kidding yourself with this sentence.

That's referring to the fact that Chuck has nothing left on the CCD to bring up, which is correct.
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Founded: Sep 04, 2015
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Castelia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:58 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:And yes, before you bring up Castelia, he doesn't know either because we cut him out of all discussions of importance weeks ago :)


It's funny you say that, considering that you and Jocospor were spinning around your heads blaming pretty much everyone else but me. You didn't even figure that one out by yourselves. For all the talk about you being the brains here, Shrew, you couldn't even figure me out when I literally hinting about my discontent and growing plans of betrayal since months prior.

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:t's not quite exactly what happened.


Then prove it, Shrew. Have Depackya show everyone here the logs. Prove that it was all just the joke you say it is. Let the NS community decide for themselves by seeing all of the evidence.

The Chuck wrote:If the powers that be deemed that punishment should be handed out, I would gladly take a DEAT/DOS if Jocospor got one too.


I'm just as guilty in this, so I'll take one as well. Consider this my way of repenting for not reporting this as soon as I should have.
Last edited by Castelia on Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:00 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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