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by WayNeacTia » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:28 am
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by The New California Republic » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:59 am
Wayneactia wrote:Strong words, too bad there isn't any real substance there. You can say you are stepping back all you want, but as long as you remain the active founder with sole executive authority nothing will change.
by Boda » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:46 am
Jocospor wrote:Sedgistan wrote:
I am leaving this thread locked overnight. When I re-open it tomorrow, I expect the debate to return to the topic of this thread: the Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.
And what a topic that is!
If you haven't already, please consult the January Statement by Viceroy Murdoch Kellner, who has returned from his sabbatical early to oversee the Confederation's constitutional reforms.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1311093
by Francois Isidore » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:06 am
by Kafair » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:01 am
Francois Isidore wrote:Here’s what’s interesting: Jocospor always makes posts that indicate what’s in-character and what’s out-of-character, and yet, when it comes to the administration of his region, he seems to be unable to distinguish the two. I would believe the IC apology being given, but then both the natives of the Confederation and I would both be being spoon fed lies. Maybe, just maybe they do want to change and have finally learned the error of their ways. For all intents and purposes, this is highly unlikely, but if that were to be the case then I’d expect a clearer line drawn and I’d want to see some OOC reform accompanying this supposed IC reform. Currently, that is not happening.
by Great Jenovah » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:10 am
Kafair wrote:Francois Isidore wrote:Here’s what’s interesting: Jocospor always makes posts that indicate what’s in-character and what’s out-of-character, and yet, when it comes to the administration of his region, he seems to be unable to distinguish the two. I would believe the IC apology being given, but then both the natives of the Confederation and I would both be being spoon fed lies. Maybe, just maybe they do want to change and have finally learned the error of their ways. For all intents and purposes, this is highly unlikely, but if that were to be the case then I’d expect a clearer line drawn and I’d want to see some OOC reform accompanying this supposed IC reform. Currently, that is not happening.
Be patient my friend. According to Joco, Shrew, and just about everyone else, come the 1st of February, plenty of change will be arriving to the CCD. Once that happened, you can then make your opinion.
by Darcania » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:15 am
by South Reinkalistan » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:40 pm
by Great Jenovah » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:47 pm
South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: I'm with Kafair on this one. I can understand the scepticism, but let's all calm and wait for February 1st, when all the reforms will be ready. It'd be a much calmer and less nerve-wracking process for everyone ^-^
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by Francois Isidore » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:35 pm
Kafair wrote:Francois Isidore wrote:Here’s what’s interesting: Jocospor always makes posts that indicate what’s in-character and what’s out-of-character, and yet, when it comes to the administration of his region, he seems to be unable to distinguish the two. I would believe the IC apology being given, but then both the natives of the Confederation and I would both be being spoon fed lies. Maybe, just maybe they do want to change and have finally learned the error of their ways. For all intents and purposes, this is highly unlikely, but if that were to be the case then I’d expect a clearer line drawn and I’d want to see some OOC reform accompanying this supposed IC reform. Currently, that is not happening.
Be patient my friend. According to Joco, Shrew, and just about everyone else, come the 1st of February, plenty of change will be arriving to the CCD. Once that happened, you can then make your opinion.
by Latrovia » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:36 pm
by Chairman Cities » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:42 pm
by Yokiria » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:26 pm
Kafair wrote:Be patient my friend. According to Joco, Shrew, and just about everyone else, come the 1st of February, plenty of change will be arriving to the CCD. Once that happened, you can then make your opinion.
by Marxist Germany » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:30 am
by Honeydewistania » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:42 am
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Xoriet » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:31 am
Marxist Germany wrote:No sane region would ever give up the security of an executive founder to appease others. So I am not sure why people want Joco to go non-exec for the sake of it.
by The Gilded Star » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:13 am
Marxist Germany wrote:No sane region would ever give up the security of an executive founder to appease others. So I am not sure why people want Joco to go non-exec for the sake of it.
by South Reinkalistan » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:40 am
Xoriet wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:No sane region would ever give up the security of an executive founder to appease others. So I am not sure why people want Joco to go non-exec for the sake of it.
An executive founder can’t disable their executive power. The entire thing is an intellectual exercise.
by Yokiria » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:49 am
South Reinkalistan wrote:Xoriet wrote:An executive founder can’t disable their executive power. The entire thing is an intellectual exercise.
OOC: Which begs the question - why are you all still attacking Joco's changes because he's an executive founder when he cannot disable said executive authority?
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by Yokiria » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:56 pm
by British Norklon » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:40 pm
Yokiria wrote:Disappointing, frustrating, outrageous, and unsurprising.
To the edgelords and Wehraboos in CCD: Get out of there while you still can. You're being manipulated by a few players in power, and they're going to bring you all down with them.
You're going to end up being the right-wing version of The Communist Bloc, with Jocospor as your Zenny.
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