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by Marxist Germany » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:27 am
by Rossiyaana » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:31 am
by South Reinkalistan » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:37 am
Rossiyaana wrote:So the big grand solution to mending all the FA and internal blunders made over the years is... resign from the WA? And pretend to give power to some else? And did I miss the apology for the blatant Fascism and apologism that’s widespread in the CCD... no? until that is addressed And dealt with, your words are meaningless.
by Rossiyaana » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:42 am
South Reinkalistan wrote:Rossiyaana wrote:So the big grand solution to mending all the FA and internal blunders made over the years is... resign from the WA? And pretend to give power to some else? And did I miss the apology for the blatant Fascism and apologism that’s widespread in the CCD... no? until that is addressed And dealt with, your words are meaningless.
OOC: 'Blatant Fascism'
Sigh
That said, I do believe wholeheartedly in the apology issued. I've come to realise that a lot of regions have done questionable things, and the Confederation is no exception - more so than most, in fact. But let's hope for mutual prosperity in the future. I see no need for this much hostility. I cannot speak for what the Confederation was like when you were a member, Rossiyaana, but I sure as hell can say that there's very little OOC fascism now.
by The Chuck » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:42 am
South Reinkalistan wrote:Rossiyaana wrote:So the big grand solution to mending all the FA and internal blunders made over the years is... resign from the WA? And pretend to give power to some else? And did I miss the apology for the blatant Fascism and apologism that’s widespread in the CCD... no? until that is addressed And dealt with, your words are meaningless.
OOC: 'Blatant Fascism'
Sigh
That said, I do believe wholeheartedly in the apology issued. I've come to realise that a lot of regions have done questionable things, and the Confederation is no exception - more so than most, in fact. But let's hope for mutual prosperity in the future. I see no need for this much hostility. I cannot speak for what the Confederation was like when you were a member, Rossiyaana, but I sure as hell can say that there's very little OOC fascism now.
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by The New California Republic » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:44 am
South Reinkalistan wrote:That said, I do believe wholeheartedly in the apology issued. I've come to realise that a lot of regions have done questionable things, and the Confederation is no exception - more so than most, in fact. But let's hope for mutual prosperity in the future. I see no need for this much hostility.
by South Reinkalistan » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:46 am
The Chuck wrote:South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: 'Blatant Fascism'
Sigh
That said, I do believe wholeheartedly in the apology issued. I've come to realise that a lot of regions have done questionable things, and the Confederation is no exception - more so than most, in fact. But let's hope for mutual prosperity in the future. I see no need for this much hostility. I cannot speak for what the Confederation was like when you were a member, Rossiyaana, but I sure as hell can say that there's very little OOC fascism now.
Oh? Very little OOC fascism... Including Regna Loreau's comment today about wanting a Fascist Australia?
Yeah I fucking saw that too
by Kranostav » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:01 pm
South Reinkalistan wrote:The Chuck wrote:
Oh? Very little OOC fascism... Including Regna Loreau's comment today about wanting a Fascist Australia?
Yeah I fucking saw that too
OOC: That wasn't from the CCD server - very classy Chuck - and the comment was clearly insincere.
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:06 pm
Kranostav wrote:South Reinkalistan wrote:OOC: That wasn't from the CCD server - very classy Chuck - and the comment was clearly insincere.
Since it is apparently lost on you and the entire CCD community... A great way to disassociate yourself with OOC fascism in any form is to not talk, joke, muse, or otherwise fantasize about it in any manner. It is much better to not have screenshots like that show up, as opposed to having to explain the context to every fascist joke made in a public place by community members. Otherwise you'll always be seen as making excuses for jokes in extremely poor taste and no one wants to be that guy.
by Lyrical International Brigade » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:10 pm
Kranostav wrote:...Otherwise you'll always be seen as making excuses for jokes in extremely poor taste and no one wants to be that guy.
by Outer Sparta » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:24 pm
South Reinkalistan wrote:The Chuck wrote:
Oh? Very little OOC fascism... Including Regna Loreau's comment today about wanting a Fascist Australia?
Yeah I fucking saw that too
OOC: That wasn't from the CCD server - very classy Chuck - and the comment was clearly insincere.
by Transnista » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:25 pm
Lyrical International Brigade wrote:Kranostav wrote:...Otherwise you'll always be seen as making excuses for jokes in extremely poor taste and no one wants to be that guy.
I dunno. Seems like half of CCD wants to be that guy. They certainly spend enough time at it ("We have a Jewish nation! And an Indian nation! And a couple of black guy nations! And they're some of ourbest friendsmost prominent RMB posters!").
The other half can thank them for running interference and keep snickering for all the "doubt" they've sown about their fascism. The system works!
by Francois Isidore » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:52 pm
Kranostav wrote:Since it is apparently lost on you and the entire CCD community... A great way to disassociate yourself with OOC fascism in any form is to not talk, joke, muse, or otherwise fantasize about it in any manner. It is much better to not have screenshots like that show up, as opposed to having to explain the context to every fascist joke made in a public place by community members. Otherwise you'll always be seen as making excuses for jokes in extremely poor taste and no one wants to be that guy.
by Krvava Koupel » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:10 pm
Makdon wrote:Krvava Koupel wrote:Man, you guys have nothing better to do with your lives, don’t you? Just sitting around on your phone or computer all day just waiting for that one post for you to twist and bash. I have to give it to you guys, though. You guys just stare at your screens very intently and very analytical... takes patience.
mocks us for responding quickly and cynically in a quick and cynical response...
by Prydania » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:22 pm
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Doesn’t seem to be going too well at the moment if you read their RMB.
Darcania wrote:Apparently it means fuck-all to them as well: https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37428618
Krvava Koupel wrote:To the rest of the nations I upset with that comment about Hitler: I didn’t mean any harm in the sentence. I regret saying it and I know I can’t come back from said sentence. To be quaint, the context was of an unnamed nation who had a fascist regime take over their nation. I absolutely went against it, not once did I participate in it. I am a scientific and fantasy Based Nation in the CCD. Nowhere close to fascist. But I apologize for the comment.
From here I can only hope relations either calm or grow fond. I would love to, as Transnista said, build relations with nations of all regions. Not specifically regions, as that could cause strain.
Transnista wrote:Pretty sure most of us who are those "RMB posters" would disagree with you. Turns out we've been bashed more by liberal regions than we have by the "nazis." Huh.
by Krvava Koupel » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:26 pm
Prydania wrote:Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Doesn’t seem to be going too well at the moment if you read their RMB.
*Curb Your Enthusiasm theme goes here*Darcania wrote:Apparently it means fuck-all to them as well: https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37428618
Quoting this so it's not lost. The CCD isn't interested in real change.Krvava Koupel wrote:To the rest of the nations I upset with that comment about Hitler: I didn’t mean any harm in the sentence. I regret saying it and I know I can’t come back from said sentence. To be quaint, the context was of an unnamed nation who had a fascist regime take over their nation. I absolutely went against it, not once did I participate in it. I am a scientific and fantasy Based Nation in the CCD. Nowhere close to fascist. But I apologize for the comment.
Thank you. I sincerely mean it. Thank you for that apology.From here I can only hope relations either calm or grow fond. I would love to, as Transnista said, build relations with nations of all regions. Not specifically regions, as that could cause strain.
I am legitimately thankful for your above apology, but just speaking for myself? There is too much evidence in this thread (even discounting the screenshot you have apologized for) indicating that the CCD harbours and allows fascism to circulate in its ranks.
I made this mistake once with KR. I thought they were being unfairly targeted as Nazis when they were supposedly just a German Empire RP region. I even joined with a puppet to show my support. Only for Discord logs to show up after the fact of members there- even people who I thought I was dealing with in good faith- commenting about how Jews needed to be gassed and how Hitler was right. And yes, they trotted out the same "just jokes bro!" excuse, and no it didn't work for them either.
In short? Thank you for your apology. You seem like a decent person. I am uninterested in "furthering relations" with people who are tied to a region that holds me to be subhuman though. You may not believe that, but it seems a good chunk of your region-mates do.
by Transnista » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:29 pm
by Boda » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:50 pm
by South Reinkalistan » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:54 pm
by Krvava Koupel » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:57 pm
by South Reinkalistan » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:00 pm
by Transnista » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:08 pm
by WayNeacTia » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:12 pm
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:The following dispatch explains recent events within the CCD, including the closure of our embassies.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309340
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by The New California Republic » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:19 pm
Wayneactia wrote:ShrewLlamaLand wrote:The following dispatch explains recent events within the CCD, including the closure of our embassies.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1309340
Looks like a coup to me.
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