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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:53 pm

PotatoFarmers wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:And the CCD downplays such posts by saying "it's just IC, it's just RP."

All this while in a chat named irl-politics. Bravo. :rofl:


Note: The post by German is IRL. He does actually have that political ideology, or did at the time, I don't know when the screenshot was taken, don't @ me. Now when it comes to never apologizing, I can't force other members to do anything. Really. Can't. But I dare you to find one thing that I've done that needs to be apologized for, and if you do, then I will. Pinky promise.

EDIT: One thing I haven't already apologized for
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Postby Prydania » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:54 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Krvava Koupel wrote:
It’s funny, because the quote wasn’t even in that channel

Is this another case of the "invisible script" playing tricks again? ;)

Damn Pacific-led Illuminati and their invisible scripts!

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Postby Rossiyaana » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:54 pm

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Rossiyaana wrote:Wha... it definitely was. Do I need to repost the screenshot?


I it literally wasn’t, it was in the OOC chat.

First of all, no it wasn't
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Second of all, Out Of Character and IRL both indicate these a beliefs held by the player, not the nation. You're invalidating your own argument.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:54 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:
Rossiyaana wrote:Wha... it definitely was. Do I need to repost the screenshot?


I it literally wasn’t, it was in the OOC chat.

It's labeled as #irl-politics, are you saying that is wrong?
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Postby Prydania » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:56 pm

Transnista wrote:Note: The post by German is IRL. He does actually have that political ideology...

So CCD is home to actual fascists who aren't just "RPing."
Good to know,

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Postby Krvava Koupel » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:58 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Krvava Koupel wrote:
I it literally wasn’t, it was in the OOC chat.

It's labeled as #irl-politics, are you saying that is wrong?


I was talking about the quote that y’all were trying to use against me. Yknow my quote, the quote about a shitshow Roleplay that lasted a week, one I never participated in because I didn’t agree with it. German did believe in it at one point yes, but ideology changes as you go about your life. Hell I used to be a conservative, I’m centrist now. But that’s beside the point. I’ve said this many times and I’ll continue to say it

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Postby Makdon » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:00 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's labeled as #irl-politics, are you saying that is wrong?


I was talking about the quote that y’all were trying to use against me. Yknow my quote, the quote about a shitshow Roleplay that lasted a week, one I never participated in because I didn’t agree with it. German did believe in it at one point yes, but ideology changes as you go about your life. Hell I used to be a conservative, I’m centrist now. But that’s beside the point. I’ve said this many times and I’ll continue to say it

I do not speak for the other members of this region.

irl politics is such a great place to have a rp
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Postby Rossiyaana » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:00 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's labeled as #irl-politics, are you saying that is wrong?


I was talking about the quote that y’all were trying to use against me. Yknow my quote, the quote about a shitshow Roleplay that lasted a week, one I never participated in because I didn’t agree with it. German did believe in it at one point yes, but ideology changes as you go about your life. Hell I used to be a conservative, I’m centrist now. But that’s beside the point. I’ve said this many times and I’ll continue to say it

I do not speak for the other members of this region.

So the quote linked where you said Hitler was a cool leader... was in #OOC... and yet you're saying that it was actually RP? There is an RP channel on the discord, and I know that you know that. So why was it in OOC?
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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:00 pm

Prydania wrote:
Transnista wrote:Note: The post by German is IRL. He does actually have that political ideology...

So CCD is home to actual fascists who aren't just "RPing."
Good to know,


Big difference between fascism and Hitler.

DISCLAIMER: I am a socialist. I am not fascist whatsoever, nor do I agree with their views. But I don't think the word "fascism" is instantly terrible. Yall's persecution of it is essentially 1960's Red Scare.

Fascism: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader

IE A dictatorship, but with heavy nationalism.

Learn your stuff before you throw out blind insults.

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Postby PotatoFarmers » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:03 pm

Transnista wrote:
Prydania wrote:So CCD is home to actual fascists who aren't just "RPing."
Good to know,


Big difference between fascism and Hitler.

DISCLAIMER: I am a socialist. I am not fascist whatsoever, nor do I agree with their views. But I don't think the word "fascism" is instantly terrible. Yall's persecution of it is essentially 1960's Red Scare.

Fascism: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader

IE A dictatorship, but with heavy nationalism.

Learn your stuff before you throw out blind insults.

From wikipedia:
> Nazism is a form of fascism
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:03 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It's labeled as #irl-politics, are you saying that is wrong?


I was talking about the quote that y’all were trying to use against me. Yknow my quote, the quote about a shitshow Roleplay that lasted a week, one I never participated in because I didn’t agree with it. German did believe in it at one point yes, but ideology changes as you go about your life. Hell I used to be a conservative, I’m centrist now. But that’s beside the point. I’ve said this many times and I’ll continue to say it

I do not speak for the other members of this region.

Cool, but as I said, it doesn't excuse the other shit that CCD has done.
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Postby Boda » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:03 pm

Oh welp, he just said it. There are fascists in CCD.

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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:04 pm

PotatoFarmers wrote:
Transnista wrote:
Big difference between fascism and Hitler.

DISCLAIMER: I am a socialist. I am not fascist whatsoever, nor do I agree with their views. But I don't think the word "fascism" is instantly terrible. Yall's persecution of it is essentially 1960's Red Scare.

Fascism: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader

IE A dictatorship, but with heavy nationalism.

Learn your stuff before you throw out blind insults.

From wikipedia:
> Nazism is a form of fascism


A square is a form of rectangle.


PSST I bet I can find a fascist in TNP too.
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Postby McMasterdonia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:05 pm

Sometimes you just have to stay silent and they will keep digging. Thanks for confirming what our invisible scripts already told us was true
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Postby PotatoFarmers » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:06 pm

Transnista wrote:
PotatoFarmers wrote:From wikipedia:
> Nazism is a form of fascism


A square is a form of rectangle.

Since you said:
Transnista wrote:Big difference between fascism and Hitler.

Can I say: Big difference between a square and a rectangle? :roll:
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Postby Prydania » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:06 pm

Transnista wrote:
Learn your stuff before you throw out blind insults.

This is hilarious. So let's start at the beginning.
First? I said "So CCD is home to actual fascists who aren't just "RPing."
Good to know."
You then responded with the dictionary definition of fascism and told me to "lean my stuff" before "throwing out blind insults."

What insults? I literally called him the ideology he professed to follow.

Secondly, fascism may not necessarily equate to Nazism's overt racism and antisemitism, but there is a lot of overlap between the two and you'll find fascism often leads to Nazism and white supremacy or serves as a cover.

Thirdly? I'm a history teacher ffs. I've studied this stuff most of my adult life.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:08 pm

McMasterdonia wrote:Sometimes you just have to stay silent and they will keep digging. Thanks for confirming what our invisible scripts already told us was true

The invisible scripts are the new Illuminati it seems.
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Postby Prydania » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:10 pm

Krvava Koupel wrote:
I was talking about the quote that y’all were trying to use against me. Yknow my quote, the quote about a shitshow Roleplay that lasted a week, one I never participated in because I didn’t agree with it.

Wait. You said...

Krvava Koupel wrote:I it literally wasn’t, it was in the OOC chat.

...re: the Hitler post you made.
But now you're claiming it was in a RP? In an OOC channel? What?

Is it so hard for CCD people to admit to mistakes? Or has Joco's allergic reaction to personal responsibility taken over the entire region?

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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:10 pm

McMasterdonia wrote:Sometimes you just have to stay silent and they will keep digging. Thanks for confirming what our invisible scripts already told us was true


McMasterdonia, you know I respect you, right? I think you've done a really, really good job with TNP stuff and for NS as a whole.

But really? Throwing this stupid childish joke around? Because we trust our members more than we trust people who mock and berate us, and think it's more likely that they exploited our stuff than relying on the people we trust and love? (PS, shame on the spies. I care about nearly every active member. Good on you for being a prick. Don't fucking @ me about the TNP operation as I'm obviously not a part of it.) I'm disappointed. I don't buy into the WA Elite are elitist bastards thing. But you guys sure do act like you can't see past your own dick sometimes. Grow up.

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Postby McMasterdonia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:12 pm

Transnista wrote:
McMasterdonia wrote:Sometimes you just have to stay silent and they will keep digging. Thanks for confirming what our invisible scripts already told us was true


McMasterdonia, you know I respect you, right? I think you've done a really, really good job with TNP stuff and for NS as a whole.

But really? Throwing this stupid childish joke around? Because we trust our members more than we trust people who mock and berate us, and think it's more likely that they exploited our stuff than relying on the people we trust and love? (PS, shame on the spies. I care about nearly every active member. Good on you for being a prick. Don't fucking @ me about the TNP operation as I'm obviously not a part of it.) I'm disappointed. I don't buy into the WA Elite are elitist bastards thing. But you guys sure do act like you can't see past your own dick sometimes. Grow up.


tldr. Stay hydrated.

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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:13 pm

Prydania wrote:
Transnista wrote:
Learn your stuff before you throw out blind insults.

This is hilarious. So let's start at the beginning.
First? I said "So CCD is home to actual fascists who aren't just "RPing."
Good to know."
You then responded with the dictionary definition of fascism and told me to "lean my stuff" before "throwing out blind insults."

What insults? I literally called him the ideology he professed to follow.

Secondly, fascism may not necessarily equate to Nazism's overt racism and antisemitism, but there is a lot of overlap between the two and you'll find fascism often leads to Nazism and white supremacy or serves as a cover.

Thirdly? I'm a history teacher ffs. I've studied this stuff most of my adult life.



Psst ... I'm an investigative journalist in real life. Doesn't mean you can't be a dumbass online, as you have very obviously seen throughout NS.

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Postby Prydania » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:13 pm

Transnista wrote:PSST I bet I can find a fascist in TNP too.

Oh I'm sure. I'm lead RP mod over there (the region yours tried to destroy). I've dealt with them.

Difference is TNP stands against fascism as official policy. Find one of our own advocating for fascism, Nazism, racial supremacy, etc...and we will disown them.

Meanwhile those attitudes seem to run rampant in the CCD, and are even excused by their regulars.

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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:15 pm

McMasterdonia wrote:
Transnista wrote:
McMasterdonia, you know I respect you, right? I think you've done a really, really good job with TNP stuff and for NS as a whole.

But really? Throwing this stupid childish joke around? Because we trust our members more than we trust people who mock and berate us, and think it's more likely that they exploited our stuff than relying on the people we trust and love? (PS, shame on the spies. I care about nearly every active member. Good on you for being a prick. Don't fucking @ me about the TNP operation as I'm obviously not a part of it.) I'm disappointed. I don't buy into the WA Elite are elitist bastards thing. But you guys sure do act like you can't see past your own dick sometimes. Grow up.


tldr. Stay hydrated.

Maybe the real treasure is the invisible scripts we made along the way.


Are you fucking kidding me? You obnoxious piece of shit. I have done absolutely nothing to you. I have been nothing but reasonable. And now you're going to make fun of me for something I said to help people? Literally that was a harmless comment, designed to be a smiling reminder that maybe, just maybe, we all don't drink enough water. And you thought, "you know what would be funny? If I mock this person for trying to help me." Fuck you.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:16 pm

Transnista wrote:
McMasterdonia wrote:Sometimes you just have to stay silent and they will keep digging. Thanks for confirming what our invisible scripts already told us was true


McMasterdonia, you know I respect you, right? I think you've done a really, really good job with TNP stuff and for NS as a whole.

But really? Throwing this stupid childish joke around? Because we trust our members more than we trust people who mock and berate us, and think it's more likely that they exploited our stuff than relying on the people we trust and love? (PS, shame on the spies. I care about nearly every active member. Good on you for being a prick. Don't fucking @ me about the TNP operation as I'm obviously not a part of it.) I'm disappointed. I don't buy into the WA Elite are elitist bastards thing. But you guys sure do act like you can't see past your own dick sometimes. Grow up.

Given that it was Joco that started the laughably ridiculous accusation of an "invisible script", don't blame folk if it gets roundly mocked. ;)
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the complete victory over Caesar's Legion, and the pacification and annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.
Current President of The NCR: Aaron Kimball.
Current NCR Ambassador to The World Assembly: Colonel James Hsu, NCR Army (Ret.)
.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Transnista » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:17 pm

Prydania wrote:
Transnista wrote:PSST I bet I can find a fascist in TNP too.

Oh I'm sure. I'm lead RP mod over there (the region yours tried to destroy). I've dealt with them.

Difference is TNP stands against fascism as official policy. Find one of our own advocating for fascism, Nazism, racial supremacy, etc...and we will disown them.

Meanwhile those attitudes seem to run rampant in the CCD, and are even excused by their regulars.


Note, we have kicked several members in the last month alone just for being toxic and prejudiced. Once, again, maybe look before you jump. The only thing we haven't immediately denounced the way you have is fascism as a governmental ideology, and only in people who don't try to push it on others or preach dogma.

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