Confederation of Corrupt Dictators: Ultimate Gameplay Thread

[Outer Sparta]

Krvava also said:

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What a disgusting sentiment.

CCD just doesn't get it. The region is rife with Nazi/fascist/white supremacy apologism and every time someone holds them to account for their bs they attempt to wiggle out of it.
"It's just a joke!"
"It's all IC!"
"We have traitors and invisible illuminati scripts in our Discord! That's why we failed to coup TNP!"

The CCD not only struck against my home region (an IC reason to find them intolerable) theh actively support and promote an ideology that would have me killed as "subhuman." Which accounts for my OOC disdain for them.

That they all willingly follow Joco's cult of personality and imitate his immature "blame everyone but me, don't take responsibility for my actions" mentality is just the crap cherry atop this sundae.

And then the region denies the blatant fascism and then use the card that says "not everyone in CCD is a fascist." That doesn't make up for how the region operates.

[RavenShade]

The raiders on the CCD Discord happened before the TNP thing happened, you literally cannot use that for every basis of your crap argument.

I’m talking about my mental health. And I did take a break from this game, several times, but I was unaware that we had a spy in our government ranks. Do you not get that?

Your half assed response to me has been noted and laughed at. You can not justify your means when you keep going by the same thing over and over. You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

Also, Jocospor has been threatened by a DOS attack, people bribed us to give them information about his real life. How the hell can you just sit there and think that’s okay?

It’s not. Nor is attempting to coup TNP.

TNP is technically just a digital group in a website simulator GAME. I'm sorry if I offended anyone here but you can basically do this on any other game, social media, etc.
Bribing for REAL LIFE INFORMATION is COMPLETELY different.

[Outer Sparta]

It’s not. Nor is attempting to coup TNP.

TNP is technically just a digital group in a website simulator GAME. I'm sorry if I offended anyone here but you can basically do this on any other game, social media, etc.
Bribing for REAL LIFE INFORMATION is COMPLETELY different.

If the CCD claims that people bribed them to give RL information about Jocospor, then back it up with a citation.

[Xoriet]

Trying to turn heat your government willingly brought on you themselves into OOC appeals for leaving you alone because mental health is pretty contemptible. Nobody has endorsed the dox attempt on Jocospor. And if I had a dollar for every time bad stuff on NS has impacted my mental health, I’d be able to afford a nice vacation. But you know, turning this into “You’re bullies for hurting my mental health!” is stupid. Get off the forums and go take some time for yourself if you can’t handle this. You’re choosing to engage further despite claiming it hurts your health. Stop trying to use that on us as a reason why you shouldn’t get the consequences your government granted you all through poor decisions and go off and take care of you.

[The Chuck]

TNP is technically just a digital group in a website simulator GAME. I'm sorry if I offended anyone here but you can basically do this on any other game, social media, etc.
Bribing for REAL LIFE INFORMATION is COMPLETELY different.

If the CCD claims that people bribed them to give RL information about Jocospor, then back it up with a citation.

As the Former Discord Admin, I can verify this. There was a doxing attempt on Jocospor however I did my own searching behind the scenes after the fact and came to the conclusion that it was most likely a ploy carried out by a single actor who wasn't a regular NSer.

[Prydania]

TNP is technically just a digital group in a website simulator GAME. I'm sorry if I offended anyone here but you can basically do this on any other game, social media, etc.

Oh my more of the same from CCD. An unwillingness to accept consequences of their actions, be they OOC or IC. You see this with the fascist stuff too.

CCD does something fascist
"Hey CCD did a fascist thing, that's not cool."
"It's just RP!"

Ok. If it's OOC fascism then you're bigots we shouldn't have to tolerate. If it's "just" IC fascism? Then you should accept an IC reaction. RPing as fascists brings with it the inherent acknowledgement that you will suffer RP consequences for being IC fascists.

CCD tries to coup TNP
"Hey CCD, that's not cool, expect retaliation."
"Hey it's just a game why is everyone freaking out?"

I've seen multiple Joco cult of personality loyalists here and elsewhere defend the actions of their government's operations against TNP with the "it's just a game!" argument.
Ok. If it's just a game, then expect in-game responses to your region's actions. Same with the fascist argument above. Being "IC" doesn't shield you from taking responsibility for your actions.

It's a sign of immaturity to be brazen and to disregard others in the quest of doing what you want, and to demand you suffer no negative consequences as a result. Sadly Joco seems to hold that attribute in spades and it's become the standard reaction CCD has to anything anytime they're called out for their nonsense.

CCD cannot ever truly reform. Not unless Joco lets someone else with a more reasonable outlook take over. Or Joco grows up himself.

[The New California Republic]

The raiders on the CCD Discord happened before the TNP thing happened, you literally cannot use that for every basis of your crap argument.

Proof?

I’m talking about my mental health. And I did take a break from this game, several times, but I was unaware that we had a spy in our government ranks. Do you not get that?

Sorry, but you cannot keep using your mental health as an argument. If it is affecting you that much, then take a break, but don't keep using it as an argument, as it is pretty underhanded to keep using such a thing as an argument since it puts one's opponent in an awkward position.

Your half assed response to me has been noted and laughed at. You can not justify your means when you keep going by the same thing over and over. You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

Hilarious, considering the evidence is pretty clear, meaning that no twisting of words is required.

Also, Jocospor has been threatened by a DOS attack, people bribed us to give them information about his real life. How the hell can you just sit there and think that’s okay?

Anything else you want to tell me that I have thought?

[PotatoFarmers]

The raiders on the CCD Discord happened before the TNP thing happened, you literally cannot use that for every basis of your crap argument.

I’m talking about my mental health. And I did take a break from this game, several times, but I was unaware that we had a spy in our government ranks. Do you not get that?

I used to have nothing against the CCD, throwing off all accusations about the CCD being bad as something completely from a gameplay and IC perspective. After this saga, I guess I must say that I am foolish for not believing the accusations people had about this region.

You said that you are upset that you had a spy in your government ranks, yes? What makes you thing that people would not be upset when your region did the same to others? Trying to absolve yourself of any blame by saying that "the same happened to us too" does not take the blame off you in anyway.

Your half assed response to me has been noted and laughed at. You can not justify your means when you keep going by the same thing over and over. You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

So this is what sour grapes says when they are exposed by the community for wrongdoings? I do not wish to content on the point of whether Pacifics and allies of them "just love twisting the words of others". Mind you, this entire conversation would not have to take place if such an event did not occur in the first place. You could say that what we say is false. But you cannot deny the fact that your nation did something that is unacceptable and intolerable. No matter how words are twisted, I cannot say that "CCD has done a good job of helping the community" when they attempted state-sponsored espionage on others?

Also, Jocospor has been threatened by a DOS attack, people bribed us to give them information about his real life. How the hell can you just sit there and think that’s okay?

Oh I am sorry to hear that. Really. That is taking it too far. However, have you wondered why Jocospor, and not anyone else, is the target of such attacks? Have you ever thought of why the CCD has been the target of everyone? Go and take a break and reflect before you come back and hit out at everyone for doing that to people in your region.

[The Chuck]

If you want to ignore what Joco did then that's entirely your problem. And it's fucking rich to accuse anyone of "sending raiders and spies" when that's exactly what the CCD was doing in regards to TNP.


If you are seriously worried for your own life because of a game then it's probably time to take a break from it for a while.


"NO U" in other words?

The raiders on the CCD Discord happened before the TNP thing happened, you literally cannot use that for every basis of your crap argument.

I’m talking about my mental health. And I did take a break from this game, several times, but I was unaware that we had a spy in our government ranks. Do you not get that?

Your half assed response to me has been noted and laughed at. You can not justify your means when you keep going by the same thing over and over. You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

Also, Jocospor has been threatened by a DOS attack, people bribed us to give them information about his real life. How the hell can you just sit there and think that’s okay?

Krvava, it was attempted bribery and I didn't accept so don't try to make it sound worse than it was.

[The New California Republic]

The raiders on the CCD Discord happened before the TNP thing happened, you literally cannot use that for every basis of your crap argument.

I’m talking about my mental health. And I did take a break from this game, several times, but I was unaware that we had a spy in our government ranks. Do you not get that?

I used to have nothing against the CCD, throwing off all accusations about the CCD being bad as something completely from a gameplay and IC perspective. After this saga, I guess I must say that I am foolish for not believing the accusations people had about this region.

You said that you are upset that you had a spy in your government ranks, yes? What makes you thing that people would not be upset when your region did the same to others? Trying to absolve yourself of any blame by saying that "the same happened to us too" does not take the blame off you in anyway.

Tbh I think a lot of regions and nations that were previously ambivalent towards CCD will have hardened their attitude towards them in light of their inept attempt to seize TNP.

[Rossiyaana]

This cult of personality around Joco and the absolute unwillingness to admit wrongdoing is part of the reason I dislike the CCD... the other part being the fascist and Nazi elements present in their ranks. Take it from someone who’s been a member, CCD can never be redeemed and they’ll never quit with their antics. In a month or so we’ll see another “joke” repeal of the Liberation or we’ll wake up to another recruitment telegram from Joco.

Tell me exactly what “wrongdoing” are you referring to? You were not a prominent member of the CCD, in fact I do believe you caused more drama than there should have been in the CCD.

And on the matter of the fascist and nazi elements present, I would love for you to pinpoint for me where exactly you see it. What ranking officer is fascist? The 2nd Imperial German Reich is probably the closest you’ll find, and being a close friend of his, he’s nowhere close to such.

Oh, also! Someone just sent me this lovely image. So if 2nd Imperial German Reich isn't Fascist... then why is he saying its the best ideology?

[Prydania]

You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

You claimed the historical figure who ordered the genocide of my ethnic group was a "cool leader." That's why I take your threat to dismantle my NS home more seriously than mere IC banter. It's toxic crap like the sort you were shown to have posted that makes your region truly intolerable.

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Oh lovely. Calling fascism "the best ideology" and claiming Adolf Hitler was a "cool leader."
The CCD sure seems to be full of good people

[Krvava Koupel]

You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

You claimed the historical figure who ordered the genocide of my ethnic group was a "cool leader." That's why I take your threat to dismantle my NS home more seriously than mere IC banter. It's toxic crap like the sort you were shown to have posted that makes your region truly intolerable.

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Oh lovely. Calling fascism "the best ideology" and claiming Adolf Hitler was a "cool leader."
The CCD sure seems to be full of good people

Dude, we literally have a Jewish person in the CCD, in fact I think we have more than
One, and they didn’t complain like this. ALSO, the quote was taken completely
Out of context. And I have the proof of it if I actually knew how to use forums and new how to actually post an image.

[Outer Sparta]

You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

You claimed the historical figure who ordered the genocide of my ethnic group was a "cool leader." That's why I take your threat to dismantle my NS home more seriously than mere IC banter. It's toxic crap like the sort you were shown to have posted that makes your region truly intolerable.

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Oh lovely. Calling fascism "the best ideology" and claiming Adolf Hitler was a "cool leader."
The CCD sure seems to be full of good people

And the CCD downplays such posts by saying "it's just IC, it's just RP."

[The New California Republic]

Dude, we literally have a Jewish person in the CCD, in fact I think we have more than
One, and they didn’t complain like this.

That doesn't really prove much.

ALSO, the quote was taken completely
Out of context. And I have the proof of it if I actually knew how to use forums and new how to actually post an image.

Even if that single quote was taken out of context it still doesn't excuse the other shit that has been pulled by the CCD.

[Prydania]

Dude, we literally have a Jewish person in the CCD, in fact I think we have more than
One, and they didn’t complain like this.

I don't really care. We're not a hive mind. You found a Jewish guy ok with your Nazi apologism. Doesn't make it ok, or shield you from criticism.

And see? This is what I mean about immature behaviour. Is no one in the CCD capable of showing empathy? Contrition? Is it so much to ask that someone in your region be capable of saying "I shouldn't have said/done that, it was a mistake and I'm sorry."

Is that beyond you lot? Seems to be.

[PotatoFarmers]

You claimed the historical figure who ordered the genocide of my ethnic group was a "cool leader." That's why I take your threat to dismantle my NS home more seriously than mere IC banter. It's toxic crap like the sort you were shown to have posted that makes your region truly intolerable.


Oh lovely. Calling fascism "the best ideology" and claiming Adolf Hitler was a "cool leader."
The CCD sure seems to be full of good people

And the CCD downplays such posts by saying "it's just IC, it's just RP."

All this while in a chat named irl-politics. Bravo.

[Pangurstan]

And the CCD downplays such posts by saying "it's just IC, it's just RP."

All this while in a chat named irl-politics. Bravo.

I doubt that’s the context that they wanted.

[Krvava Koupel]

And the CCD downplays such posts by saying "it's just IC, it's just RP."

All this while in a chat named irl-politics. Bravo.

It’s funny, because the quote wasn’t even in that channel

[Prydania]

And the CCD downplays such posts by saying "it's just IC, it's just RP."

All this while in a chat named irl-politics. Bravo.

Joco's going to become my favourite comedian of all time if he reveals the CCD was a long-running meta black comedy.
That's just too good.

[Rossiyaana]

All this while in a chat named irl-politics. Bravo.

It’s funny, because the quote wasn’t even in that channel

Wha... it definitely was. Do I need to repost the screenshot?

[Krvava Koupel]

The raiders on the CCD Discord happened before the TNP thing happened, you literally cannot use that for every basis of your crap argument.

I’m talking about my mental health. And I did take a break from this game, several times, but I was unaware that we had a spy in our government ranks. Do you not get that?

Your half assed response to me has been noted and laughed at. You can not justify your means when you keep going by the same thing over and over. You Pacifics, and you allies of them just love twisting the words of others, to try to make yourselves seem so high and mighty. But just remember, empires fall. And it will be justice well served when yours does.

Also, Jocospor has been threatened by a DOS attack, people bribed us to give them information about his real life. How the hell can you just sit there and think that’s okay?

Krvava, it was attempted bribery and I didn't accept so don't try to make it sound worse than it was.

Ah yes, my mistake. I probably should have fixed that. It was only an attempt. Thanks for clarifying!

[PotatoFarmers]

Dude, we literally have a Jewish person in the CCD, in fact I think we have more than
One, and they didn’t complain like this. ALSO, the quote was taken completely
Out of context. And I have the proof of it if I actually knew how to use forums and new how to actually post an image.

Fascism != Anti-Semitic. You could be a fascist jew, can't you?

Besides, you could always upload the photo somewhere and share the link. Clearly if you know how to play NationStates and use Discord you certainly can post the image on Discord and send the image link from Discord over here right?

[The New California Republic]

All this while in a chat named irl-politics. Bravo.

It’s funny, because the quote wasn’t even in that channel

Is this another case of the "invisible script" playing tricks again?

[Krvava Koupel]

It’s funny, because the quote wasn’t even in that channel

Wha... it definitely was. Do I need to repost the screenshot?

I it literally wasn’t, it was in the OOC chat.