Confederation of Corrupt Dictators: Ultimate Gameplay Thread

[RiderSyl]

As Proconsul of The Free Mediterranean States, I congratulate you.

World Factbook Entry
The Free Mediterranean States are a group of former colonized states that want to make the world in our vision.

This region is an independent puppet of Confederation of Corrupt Dictators.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... ean_states

Fucking lol. Getting puppets to shill in a thread.

That's actually really embarrassing.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Guys, I have made a troubling discovery.

Lets assume that all of CCD are edgy 12-17 US teenagers. They beg their parents for $120 each, which allows them to recruit every single 12-17 year old US resident. That is about 24 million people, more than the population of Ivory Coast and Cameroon. If they had the same average population density of the United States, they'd be bigger than Myanmar. IF we calculate the average US household, lets assume they have access to 10% of it (since they have generous parents to give them TG stamps), they'd have a GDP of over 141 trillion, which is so enourmous that it is almost 2x the rest of the world combined. With such an enormous economy, they'd be a global superpower. Now, they can train 1% of its population, or 2.4 million people, into R/D army they'd be able to tag every region possible, and the combined influence of them cross-endorsing would be so gargantuan in one update they'd be able to generate enough influence to have the entire global influence and have tonnes left over. They'd be able to destroy the Communist Bloc (as every fascist dreams of) in a blink of an eye. Of course, the site could crash from massive traffic, but that is besides the point. As well, the CCD could break the WA and pass Commend the CCD an infinite amount of times as long as the delegate votes for. They could break roleplay by flooding the forums with CCD only material (and they could perform DDoS attacks on non assimilated RPs), they could break stats with an extremely high chance of getting top in stats, especially most WA for Jocopsor and influence, plus the chances for an issue-related stat belonging to a CCD nation is astronomically high. The CCD could break the game, which is why we need to break their spirits.

Are you okay?

[Castelia]

Guys, I have made a troubling discovery.

Lets assume that all of CCD are edgy 12-17 US teenagers. They beg their parents for $120 each, which allows them to recruit every single 12-17 year old US resident. That is about 24 million people, more than the population of Ivory Coast and Cameroon. If they had the same average population density of the United States, they'd be bigger than Myanmar. IF we calculate the average US household, lets assume they have access to 10% of it (since they have generous parents to give them TG stamps), they'd have a GDP of over 141 trillion, which is so enourmous that it is almost 2x the rest of the world combined. With such an enormous economy, they'd be a global superpower. Now, they can train 1% of its population, or 2.4 million people, into R/D army they'd be able to tag every region possible, and the combined influence of them cross-endorsing would be so gargantuan in one update they'd be able to generate enough influence to have the entire global influence and have tonnes left over. They'd be able to destroy the Communist Bloc (as every fascist dreams of) in a blink of an eye. Of course, the site could crash from massive traffic, but that is besides the point. As well, the CCD could break the WA and pass Commend the CCD an infinite amount of times as long as the delegate votes for. They could break roleplay by flooding the forums with CCD only material (and they could perform DDoS attacks on non assimilated RPs), they could break stats with an extremely high chance of getting top in stats, especially most WA for Jocopsor and influence, plus the chances for an issue-related stat belonging to a CCD nation is astronomically high. The CCD could break the game, which is why we need to break their spirits.

Dude... This was so astonishing that you managed to make me break character. In all seriousness, out of character, from one human to another, are you alright? I am legitimately concerned.

Fash-bash is fun, I know, but you gotta take it easy, dude.

[Vetelo]

Not so, dear sir. You mistakenly assume that everyone shares your views on the Confederation. We have plenty of critics - plenty - but they are the old guard, the same, the ones who always rock up to the party (like yourself - how 'bout dat?!). There are many nations and regions who chose to say nothing publicly and offer their quiet congratulations and, we assure you, they would not take kindly to your disqualifying slight. And for the respect the Confederation has for them, neither shall we reveal there names, because they don't need what we have: you, et al., and your nonconstructive, hateful commentary.

Well I'm sure not a single person in NS would consider me "old guard." I just noticed this now because I have better things to do than squabble on the GP forums. How can you reasonably expect people to warm up to your region just by removing tags? Correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's actually mandated that every post on the RMB ends with "HAIL THE CONFEDERATION". If nothing else, this policy makes CCD most closely resemble Nazi Germany. And don't even get me started with "but they weren't a monarchy" crap. Kaiserreich tried basically the same thing you're doing now, they removed their fascist tag, and cleaned up the region to some extent. But again it means absolutely nothing when you still have embassies with multiple other fascist regions, including Nazi Europa. At least K-reich actually tried in that regard. In fact it looks like you're currently constructing embassies with a region that is named after lyrics in Erika, a song most closely associated with the German Wehrmacht in WW2. That's a bit of an oversight, don't you think?

It's also a joke to imply that anyone would forgive you simply because you renounced your previous views. I think if you want people to believe you are no longer fascist, then Jocospor should step down, allowing new leadership to take his place.

Additionally I do believe your claims that other people are offering you "quiet congratulations". However, making bold claims of support without showing evidence of said support means you either don't want people to see who those supporters are, or you have no supporters. So I'd imagine that those regions are also fascists, or other far-right sympathizers. That doesn't really mean a whole lot when you're trying to fix your image. Have fun continuing to roleplay as the Nazis and pretending you aren't Nazis.

[Borovan entered the region as he]

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Don't spam. Single letter look like spam with out substance

Edit post if you can not delete to say retracted

[Drop Your Pants]

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Don't spam. Single letter look like spam with out substance

Edit post if you can not delete to say retracted

That was the edit, the original post was quoted below it. When did you get a mod cap anyway?

[All Wild Things]

We'd reveal them to you, but honestly we don't think they deserve similar persecution.

Funny you should mention persecution... After this response to my earlier post,

Jesus christ man, how can you spill that kind of anti semetic crap on here?

, Blood Wine apparently contacted at least one of my embassies telling them how anti-semitic I am.

I sent Blood Wine a telegram, saying:

"Hi,

I am genuinely bemused as to why you thought my post was anti-Semitic. I was hoping you could explain to me what aspect of my post makes you think that.

Thanks"

Whilst Blood Wine has logged in twice, and taken the time to post again on this thread, they haven't bothered to respond to me.

If anyone else could enlighten me as to why my post was anti-semitic, I would be keen to hear.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

We'd reveal them to you, but honestly we don't think they deserve similar persecution.

Funny you should mention persecution... After this response to my earlier post,

Jesus christ man, how can you spill that kind of anti semetic crap on here?

, Blood Wine apparently contacted at least one of my embassies telling them how anti-semitic I am.

I sent Blood Wine a telegram, saying:

"Hi,

I am genuinely bemused as to why you thought my post was anti-Semitic. I was hoping you could explain to me what aspect of my post makes you think that.

Thanks"

Whilst Blood Wine has logged in twice, and taken the time to post again on this thread, they haven't bothered to respond to me.

If anyone else could enlighten me as to why my post was anti-semitic, I would be keen to hear.

There's nothing antisemitic about your post. Some people just get offended by sarcasm.

[RiderSyl]

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Can you not derail the thread with this please? Whatever is going on between your region and Port Blood isn't the topic of this thread

[Reploid Productions]

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Can you not derail the thread with this please? Whatever is going on between your region and Port Blood isn't the topic of this thread

^-- This. Let's stay on topic, please.

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I think you're overestimating everything from the effectiveness of TG stamp campaigns to how the roleplaying community functions.

[All Wild Things]

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Can you not derail the thread with this please? Whatever is going on between your region and Port Blood isn't the topic of this thread

On this thread, I was accused of anti-semitism.
On this thread you are taking the piss out of Jocospur for not naming regions that support him. His explanation was that he didn't want them persecuted.
Meanwhile, my region is being persecuted for a post I made on this thread.

To my mind, that all seems kind of relevant to this thread. I don't feel that I'm derailing it.

Edit: fixed spelling of "derailing".

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Although I really do think (and have advised Jocospor) that CCD should close its embassy with Nazi Europa, I think the fundamental misunderstanding regarding the general wish of the community for CCD to close embassies with 'actual fascist' regions is simply this: it dictates to CCD which regions are actual fascists.
I would say that NE are actual fascists, from interactions I and others have had with their community and leadership. I would say Kaiserreich should be looked at differently: they really have taken steps to nullify the troubling aspects that existed within the region, and return to the imperial german theme they were founded on. As I don't make it my business to investigate every claim of fascism on this site, I couldn't speak regarding the others, however.

[Tim-Opolis]

I think the fundamental misunderstanding regarding the general wish of the community for CCD to close embassies with 'actual fascist' regions is simply this: it dictates to CCD which regions are actual fascists.

Well, that's because we frankly know better than they do

Welcome to gunboat diplomacy.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I think the fundamental misunderstanding regarding the general wish of the community for CCD to close embassies with 'actual fascist' regions is simply this: it dictates to CCD which regions are actual fascists.

Well, that's because we frankly know better than they do

Welcome to gunboat diplomacy.

Unibot thinks that the NPO is fascist, don't forget. When will nations being founded in the pacific get the civil defence siren?

[Wallenburg]

When CCD maintains embassies with the likes of Nazi Europa, the Union of Axis Powers, the Coalition of Fascist Nations, and Order of the Black Eagle, it cannot seriously pretend that it is anything but another fascist region.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

When CCD maintains embassies with the likes of Nazi Europa, the Union of Axis Powers, the Coalition of Fascist Nations, and Order of the Black Eagle, it cannot seriously pretend that it is anything but another fascist region.

We know that the other regions you name (not disputing Nazi Europa) are rl fascists, right?

[Wallenburg]

When CCD maintains embassies with the likes of Nazi Europa, the Union of Axis Powers, the Coalition of Fascist Nations, and Order of the Black Eagle, it cannot seriously pretend that it is anything but another fascist region.

We know that the other regions you name (not disputing Nazi Europa) are rl fascists, right?

If you promote fascism as a region and openly identify your region as fascist, I really don't give half a shit whether you claim to be roleplaying or not.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

We know that the other regions you name (not disputing Nazi Europa) are rl fascists, right?

If you promote fascism as a region and openly identify your region as fascist, I really don't give half a shit whether you claim to be roleplaying or not.

Idk, I've been in a fascist region lead by a hardline communist before, I might be able to find his nsg posts that made other ns communists be like 'what the fuck.'

[Kurnugia]

Well, that's because we frankly know better than they do

Welcome to gunboat diplomacy.

Unibot thinks that the NPO is fascist, don't forget. When will nations being founded in the pacific get the civil defence siren?

I don't think GP gives a shit what unibot rambles on about it.

[The Gilded Star]

I thought I posted again here, I guess I didn't because I can't find it now.

The problem with having a group that roleplays/parodys/satires a movement like fascism is that while the founding members will know it's a joke, new blood coming in inevitably misses the joke and instead takes it seriously at face value, and as the guard changes, you eventually wind up going from a group pretending to be fascist to a group that is actually fascist.

Pretty sure there's even a term coined for this phenomenon but I can't find it.

[Kurnugia]

I thought I posted again here, I guess I didn't because I can't find it now.

The problem with having a group that roleplays/parodys/satires a movement like fascism is that while the founding members will know it's a joke, new blood coming in inevitably misses the joke and instead takes it seriously at face value, and as the guard changes, you eventually wind up going from a group pretending to be fascist to a group that is actually fascist.

Pretty sure there's even a term coined for this phenomenon but I can't find it.

Poe's law

[The Gilded Star]

I can't believe I failed to identify Poe's Law. That's embarrassing. Thanks for refreshing my mind, though.

[The Tri State Area and Maine]

Guys, I have made a troubling discovery.

Lets assume that all of CCD are edgy 12-17 US teenagers. They beg their parents for $120 each, which allows them to recruit every single 12-17 year old US resident. That is about 24 million people, more than the population of Ivory Coast and Cameroon. If they had the same average population density of the United States, they'd be bigger than Myanmar. IF we calculate the average US household, lets assume they have access to 10% of it (since they have generous parents to give them TG stamps), they'd have a GDP of over 141 trillion, which is so enourmous that it is almost 2x the rest of the world combined. With such an enormous economy, they'd be a global superpower. Now, they can train 1% of its population, or 2.4 million people, into R/D army they'd be able to tag every region possible, and the combined influence of them cross-endorsing would be so gargantuan in one update they'd be able to generate enough influence to have the entire global influence and have tonnes left over. They'd be able to destroy the Communist Bloc (as every fascist dreams of) in a blink of an eye. Of course, the site could crash from massive traffic, but that is besides the point. As well, the CCD could break the WA and pass Commend the CCD an infinite amount of times as long as the delegate votes for. They could break roleplay by flooding the forums with CCD only material (and they could perform DDoS attacks on non assimilated RPs), they could break stats with an extremely high chance of getting top in stats, especially most WA for Jocopsor and influence, plus the chances for an issue-related stat belonging to a CCD nation is astronomically high. The CCD could break the game, which is why we need to break their spirits.

I 100% agree. Where do I sign up?

[Jocospor]

Not so, dear sir. You mistakenly assume that everyone shares your views on the Confederation. We have plenty of critics - plenty - but they are the old guard, the same, the ones who always rock up to the party (like yourself - how 'bout dat?!). There are many nations and regions who chose to say nothing publicly and offer their quiet congratulations and, we assure you, they would not take kindly to your disqualifying slight. And for the respect the Confederation has for them, neither shall we reveal there names, because they don't need what we have: you, et al., and your nonconstructive, hateful commentary.

Well I'm sure not a single person in NS would consider me "old guard." I just noticed this now because I have better things to do than squabble on the GP forums. How can you reasonably expect people to warm up to your region just by removing tags? Correct me if I'm wrong, I think it's actually mandated that every post on the RMB ends with "HAIL THE CONFEDERATION". If nothing else, this policy makes CCD most closely resemble Nazi Germany. And don't even get me started with "but they weren't a monarchy" crap. Kaiserreich tried basically the same thing you're doing now, they removed their fascist tag, and cleaned up the region to some extent. But again it means absolutely nothing when you still have embassies with multiple other fascist regions, including Nazi Europa. At least K-reich actually tried in that regard. In fact it looks like you're currently constructing embassies with a region that is named after lyrics in Erika, a song most closely associated with the German Wehrmacht in WW2. That's a bit of an oversight, don't you think?

It's also a joke to imply that anyone would forgive you simply because you renounced your previous views. I think if you want people to believe you are no longer fascist, then Jocospor should step down, allowing new leadership to take his place.

Additionally I do believe your claims that other people are offering you "quiet congratulations". However, making bold claims of support without showing evidence of said support means you either don't want people to see who those supporters are, or you have no supporters. So I'd imagine that those regions are also fascists, or other far-right sympathizers. That doesn't really mean a whole lot when you're trying to fix your image. Have fun continuing to roleplay as the Nazis and pretending you aren't Nazis.

OOC: A few things in this to respond to:

• Clearly no one has any concept of context. The Confederation's been around for a little over three years; as the region was the subject of the sentence, the phrase "old guard" was used in relation to the Confederation's existence. And since we've only achieved prominence in the last sort of year...I can't believe I actually have to explain this.
• When you write an email, you end it with a signature (or at least, you should). We have strict RMB laws to enforce a level of professionalism on our members. It's my belief that if they are encouraged to write properly on sights like this, they'll take that forward into their IRL lives. Anyone's welcome to dispute what I've just said and come up with some other explanation, but anyone who knows me will likely tear you to shreds for it. Personally, I couldn't be bothered.
• Step down? Hahaha... *sips champagne*
• Scroll up for AWT who put his nose on the line and then got it chopped off. We have friends, and they don't deserve persecution. (And I do not comment specifically on our relationship with AWT; it's just such a perfect example.)
• You undermine your entire argument with this: "At least K-Reich actually tried in that regard." Tried? Oh. So they didn't succeed, they failed. Yes, that's right, how could I forget: Kaiserreich is still hated by most, even after they pandered to the demands of their critics. Mmm. Fat lot of good that did. As I've said many times, our investigations are ongoing, and we're looking into every possible avenue, thoroughly.

I thought I posted again here, I guess I didn't because I can't find it now.

The problem with having a group that roleplays/parodys/satires a movement like fascism is that while the founding members will know it's a joke, new blood coming in inevitably misses the joke and instead takes it seriously at face value, and as the guard changes, you eventually wind up going from a group pretending to be fascist to a group that is actually fascist.

Pretty sure there's even a term coined for this phenomenon but I can't find it.

OOC: That's a really good point actually. I might look at increasing measures to countering this, though we do have various mechanisms in place.

[Honeydewistania]

Guys, I have made a troubling discovery.

Lets assume that all of CCD are edgy 12-17 US teenagers. They beg their parents for $120 each, which allows them to recruit every single 12-17 year old US resident. That is about 24 million people, more than the population of Ivory Coast and Cameroon. If they had the same average population density of the United States, they'd be bigger than Myanmar. IF we calculate the average US household, lets assume they have access to 10% of it (since they have generous parents to give them TG stamps), they'd have a GDP of over 141 trillion, which is so enourmous that it is almost 2x the rest of the world combined. With such an enormous economy, they'd be a global superpower. Now, they can train 1% of its population, or 2.4 million people, into R/D army they'd be able to tag every region possible, and the combined influence of them cross-endorsing would be so gargantuan in one update they'd be able to generate enough influence to have the entire global influence and have tonnes left over. They'd be able to destroy the Communist Bloc (as every fascist dreams of) in a blink of an eye. Of course, the site could crash from massive traffic, but that is besides the point. As well, the CCD could break the WA and pass Commend the CCD an infinite amount of times as long as the delegate votes for. They could break roleplay by flooding the forums with CCD only material (and they could perform DDoS attacks on non assimilated RPs), they could break stats with an extremely high chance of getting top in stats, especially most WA for Jocopsor and influence, plus the chances for an issue-related stat belonging to a CCD nation is astronomically high. The CCD could break the game, which is why we need to break their spirits.

Are you okay?

Sorry about that, I was as high as a kite when I posted that.