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Krvava Koupel
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Postby Krvava Koupel » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:34 am

McMasterdonia wrote:
Krvava Koupel wrote:
To be fair, you guys didn’t realize the coup was happening for a whole year. That’s not exactly a poor attempt. It isn’t a good attempt but it isn’t a bad attempt.
Please not I am in no way defending the coup. I had no part in it and frankly condemn the actions.

That isn’t true. I suggest you re-read the report that we released. We believed that IKEA Rike was a spy from the very beginning when he stupidly posted an embassy request with CCD the day the operation began. Not only that but he demanded the embassy request in our discord channel. I was MoFA at that time and denied it.

We simply didn’t have the comprehensive evidence of the operations channel until later. There was also no need to out him - it was more interesting seeing what might happen and the power of our roleplay that distracted him from his basic task. Artemizistan was flagged as a security risk as well for unrelated reasons and that operation didn’t get very far either. Nevertheless, a good government and an effective government shows their hand when the timing is most opportune and the information most extensive. Again something CCD would clearly have no idea about.

Finally a real coup would have had the nation at 800+ endorsements at least. They failed to even get beyond 500. They would have been aggressively pursuing opportunities for advancement and trying to win us over. They didn’t advance beyond the most junior of positions that accessed information that was as secure and private as our regional message board. Barely anyone had interacted with those nations or even remembered them. While the attempt may have been laughably bad, it was and is still categorically wrong for CCD to have taken this act of aggression against us.


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Postby Sarzonia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:16 am

Transnista wrote:Don't you talk to me about politics. You're probably 16. Maybe you should grow up and look at the real world, where what you said was the equivalent of bringing insults about a politicians spouse into a political arena. Completely irrelevant to the current point, and way past the line of decency.

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Postby Transnista » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:32 am

Sarzonia wrote:
Transnista wrote:Don't you talk to me about politics. You're probably 16. Maybe you should grow up and look at the real world, where what you said was the equivalent of bringing insults about a politicians spouse into a political arena. Completely irrelevant to the current point, and way past the line of decency.

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Lol I already apologized for all of that, this is days old. Ok boomer yourself :rofl:

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Postby Kaystein » Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:35 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Jocospor wrote:OOC: Please appreciate that I am supposed to be away until Feb 1st and that I have taken the time to make the above statement.


A man shouldn't have to give up valuable assets to get a Simple Fucking Apology for a lie that he has proven to be a lie. However I don't have an issue with the person who lied anymore, they apologized and it's sunshine and rainbows between us. However try and screw me over like that again and I promise what I share next will be 10 times as damning.

Also if I know you and I like to think I do after spending over half a year talking with you, you will attempt to come after United Massachusetts for "betraying you" or some BS. I saw it happen with Morover and I saw it happen with Rossiyaana. If you attempt to drag UM into this mess, I will release the damning information anyways. They've got enough headaches by the look of it with other regions and don't need you coming from the rear.

Face me like a man.

Remember, I know what went down in Meeting-Room-1 even if it has been deleted by now and as South Reinkalistan said in his TG to me, "I can only shudder to think of how much ''''dirt'''' you've dug up on this region's populace." You definitely want to hit me back for me hitting you like this so as a Missourian all I can say is, "'Show Me' whatcha got."

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Postby Latrovia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:58 pm

It wasn't a "bad" attempt. It was an awful one from what I am gathering.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:02 pm

Latrovia wrote:It wasn't a "bad" attempt. It was an awful one from what I am gathering.

Yeah the report filed by TNP's regional delegate is a catalog of incompetence and ineptitude by the CCD.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:23 pm

With all these coup attempts these days they don't even bother to hide their real NS names. When will we get to see one use fake names, secret passwords, silly hats, handshakes, marks, or callsigns that are truly worthy of a clandestine secret conspiracy? NS deserves more.

Rating: 1/10

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Postby Ethan Allen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:28 pm

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Postby MineLegotia and Equestria » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:31 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:With all these coup attempts these days they don't even bother to hide their real NS names. When will we get to see one use fake names, secret passwords, silly hats, handshakes, marks, or callsigns that are truly worthy of a clandestine secret conspiracy? NS deserves more.

Rating: 1/10

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Postby WayNeacTia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:18 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:With all these coup attempts these days they don't even bother to hide their real NS names. When will we get to see one use fake names, secret passwords, silly hats, handshakes, marks, or callsigns that are truly worthy of a clandestine secret conspiracy? NS deserves more.

Rating: 1/10

Sincerely,
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Well there were invisible scripts used, so does that count? 8)
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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Postby East Meranopirus » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:16 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:With all these coup attempts these days they don't even bother to hide their real NS names. When will we get to see one use fake names, secret passwords, silly hats, handshakes, marks, or callsigns that are truly worthy of a clandestine secret conspiracy? NS deserves more.

Rating: 1/10

Sincerely,
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I look forward to all of those things in the next Lazarus coup

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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:50 pm

East Meranopirus wrote:
New Rogernomics wrote:With all these coup attempts these days they don't even bother to hide their real NS names. When will we get to see one use fake names, secret passwords, silly hats, handshakes, marks, or callsigns that are truly worthy of a clandestine secret conspiracy? NS deserves more.

Rating: 1/10

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I look forward to all of those things in the next Lazarus coup

Lazarus has done its part, really it's TSP, TWP, or Osiris that'd logically be next.

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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:38 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
East Meranopirus wrote:I look forward to all of those things in the next Lazarus coup

Lazarus has done its part, really it's TSP, TWP, or Osiris that'd logically be next.

I wouldn't mind seeing Balder. That would be fun to watch.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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Postby The Chuck » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:23 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37449665

I'd recommend not suppressing German's RMB post since honestly although he admits guilt, suppressing it just goes to show that these Inquisitional Hearings are indeed simply a ploy and a kangaroo court.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:30 am

The Chuck wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37449665

I'd recommend not suppressing German's RMB post since honestly although he admits guilt, suppressing it just goes to show that these Inquisitional Hearings are indeed simply a ploy and a kangaroo court.

Its a kangaroo region. Who gives a shit?
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:54 am

The Chuck wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37449665

I'd recommend not suppressing German's RMB post since honestly although he admits guilt, suppressing it just goes to show that these Inquisitional Hearings are indeed simply a ploy and a kangaroo court.

Next time we want your advice on how to run our region we'll ask :)

Also, while I'm commenting here, I've watched your "interview" and while some of it is factual, the majority is slander, exaggeration and lies.

Although I doubt anyone will take me up on this, if anyone wants to do an interview on the Confederation side of the story, telegram me.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:59 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Next time we want your advice on how to run our region we'll ask :)

Why bother, you are doing such a swimmingly good job of it as it stands. :rofl: It seems you are having a hard time ascending to the delegacy there Shrew. Are the serfs not falling in line and endorsing you?
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:14 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Looks like a coup to me. Joco can resign all he wants, it means shit. Shrew if I am not mistaken was a prominent member of Nazi Europe for quite a while were they not? If so, congrats on installing them as your delegate. Kind of like trying to put a fire out with a big bottle of hydrogen if you ask me. :lol:

I've never been associated with Nazi Europa. Yuck.

I've only ever been a part of two regions - my nation was founded in the South Pacific, stayed for a few months, then moved to CCD.

Prydania wrote:Of course Joco's cult of personality is so ingrained in everyone there that Shrew had to give the (poorly concealed) game away by assuring the panicked citizenry that nothing was actually changing.

Things definitely will be restructured, all I said in that post is that Jocospor will remain as Viceroy (he is, after all, the regional Founder).

The Gilded Star wrote:I'm sure there's a very specific reason why CCD has like 5138474 instances of pro-fascist/nazi/etc. comments and needs 5138474 different excuses of why it's not actually what it looks like, while just about any other (non-fascist) region we could draw at random out of a hat would have nearly if not exactly 0 instances of the same problem.

But no, the next time someone in CCD spouts "hail hortler" or something, I'm sure it's not indicative of any sort of prevalent pattern with CCD and is simply a cat walking across the keyboard and just coincidentally spelling something coherent and controversial. Could've happened to anyone, really.

We have no real life fascists in the Supreme Council. If they were, they wouldn't be a part of our government.


1: Should've stuck with TSP tbh.

2: Things will be restructured but everything will stay the same, with either you or Joco pulling the strings, depending on whether you fully force him out of power or not. Yeah, you wonder why we don't take this crap seriously. If anything your record of defending CCD's antics is even worse than your Founders.

3: Right, we've heard this excuse before, it's no more convincing than the last three thousand times.
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:16 am

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Prydania wrote:Well considering they hold to ideologies that consider some people to be subhuman, yes.


No, you just advocate for their right to spread their hateful ideology.

To avoid that. You debate them to prove to the public they are wrong in their positions and you are right. Censorship causes nothing but trouble. In fact, it allows them to play the victim card. And if they actually use physical violence against individual due to their beliefs, that’s where law enforcement comes to play but it still doesn’t mean you have the right to start burning books.


Have you ever met a real Fascist? Not a one among them ever did anything but 'play the victim card'. They're not above lying about it either. Paranoid conspiracies are these people's stock in trade.

This is not the defense you think it is, and the fact you seem so resolute on it despite professing disinterest is strange.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:22 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Chuck wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37449665

I'd recommend not suppressing German's RMB post since honestly although he admits guilt, suppressing it just goes to show that these Inquisitional Hearings are indeed simply a ploy and a kangaroo court.

Next time we want your advice on how to run our region we'll ask :)

It looks like you need some. Your loss.

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Although I doubt anyone will take me up on this, if anyone wants to do an interview on the Confederation side of the story, telegram me.

Why? So you can make it look like CCD is somehow the victim? :roll:
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:25 am

Transnista wrote:Sigh ... we are working on the tendency of our region to attract RL fascists, and on getting rid of those who lie within our ranks. Be a little patient with us and we'll get it done.

We ran out of patience with you long ago. You've promised to change and not done so too many times for us to believe anything you say while your present leadership steers the helm.

CCD's not going to change, but if it doesn't, it'll rot from the inside. Last couple of days are proof.
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:29 am

Transnista wrote:I think that for people who believe in democracy, you're very pessimistic about change and growth.

Maybe because CCD is not a democracy, as they so constantly remind us.

I'd have a little more confidence if Joco and Shrew hadn't repeatedly made similar promises before that never eventuated. As someone who used to be in an authoritarian region and tried to reform it, take it from me that any such reform only goes as far as the Founder lets it. My friends and I got purged for nearly winning an election and left to do our own democratic region. Unless Joco has a sudden change of heart (which is unlikely given his government's still going after the people who revealed this) nothing will change in CCD either.

Either the Founder CTE's and the whole government has a thorough clean-out, or the place slowly rots and dies from within. Only two options really.
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:35 am

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
The Chuck wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=37449665

I'd recommend not suppressing German's RMB post since honestly although he admits guilt, suppressing it just goes to show that these Inquisitional Hearings are indeed simply a ploy and a kangaroo court.

Next time we want your advice on how to run our region we'll ask :)

Also, while I'm commenting here, I've watched your "interview" and while some of it is factual, the majority is slander, exaggeration and lies.

Although I doubt anyone will take me up on this, if anyone wants to do an interview on the Confederation side of the story, telegram me.


You would be well-placed to take the advice of some of the well-meaning players here who offer it. It might be the only thing that lets your region survive.

Not me obviously, I mean, I don't give a crap. I positively relish the day CCD falls, but others here are more inclined to give you sane and helpful advice that you'd be smart to follow.
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Postby Gorundu » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:43 am

Speaking of courts, TNP has a fair one, and your spies are in need of a defense counsel over there.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:49 am

Gorundu wrote:Speaking of courts, TNP has a fair one, and your spies are in need of a defense counsel over there.

I doubt any such assistance will be forthcoming, they have likely been thrown under the bus by the CCD at this point.
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