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Hepner
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St Abbaddon Embassy

Postby Hepner » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:01 pm

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Introducing the St. Abbaddon Embassy,

St. Abbaddon is a founderless region formed in 2003 by a group of roleplayers. As such an old region, it has formed a unique history and formed an amazing community. Without a founder, St. Abbaddon is in a minority group of regions, one that is at a greater threat of attack. With this vulnerability, St. Abbaddon has some stricter rules regarding endorsements.

We are excited to begin diplomatic discussions with all of NationStates. If you are intereted in joining the region for the government or roleplay, feel free to come by!


Government
Monarch: Kitsco
Royal Adviser: Efrua
Chief Council Elder: Dragonisia
Council Elder of Foreign Affairs: Draganisia
Council Elder of Domestic Affairs: Niktobr
Council Elder of Defense: Sequential Art

Outer Council Media Relations: Hepner


Flag Design originally created by Topid.
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Altmoras
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Postby Altmoras » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:30 pm

I'm excited for diplomatic discussion too!
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:25 pm

Hepner wrote:As such an old region, it has formed a unique history

My puppet storage region has a unique history
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Postby Dragonisia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:52 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Hepner wrote:As such an old region, it has formed a unique history

My puppet storage region has a unique history


Sounds like a lot of effort for a puppet storage region.. *chortles*.
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Postby Miporin » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:03 pm

Having at least two NPO people in your shiny new government really doesn't give off the impression of a region unbeholden to TP's interests :roll:
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:05 pm

Chief Council Elder: Dragonisia
Council Elder of Foreign Affairs: Draganisia

You guys related or something?
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Postby Hepner » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:08 pm

Miporin wrote:Having at least two NPO people in your shiny new government really doesn't give off the impression of a region unbeholden to TP's interests :roll:

If you are referring to our Defense General's, they are less part of the government, and more helpers as we restore.

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Postby Miporin » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:11 pm

Hepner wrote:
Miporin wrote:Having at least two NPO people in your shiny new government really doesn't give off the impression of a region unbeholden to TP's interests :roll:

If you are referring to our Defense General's, they are less part of the government, and more helpers as we restore.

At least four, then. Dragonisia/Draganisia are both NPO. The former even proudly proclaims it in his signature :blush:
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Postby Hepner » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:16 pm

Miporin wrote:
Hepner wrote:If you are referring to our Defense General's, they are less part of the government, and more helpers as we restore.

At least four, then. Dragonisia/Draganisia are both NPO. The former even proudly proclaims it in his signature :blush:

We won't lessen someones chances of joining our government just because they are also involved in another. They are both dedicated to our region and will make the proper decisions for its success

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Postby The Gilded Star » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:17 pm

Who's the guy who publicly speaks on behalf of St. Abbaddon? Is it Hepner, or Draganisia? I'm assuming the former given this thread, but I was curious to make it clear.

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Hepner
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Postby Hepner » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:19 pm

The Gilded Star wrote:Who's the guy who publicly speaks on behalf of St. Abbaddon? Is it Hepner, or Draganisia? I'm assuming the former given this thread, but I was curious to make it clear.

I am in charge of media relations in the outer council. Draganisia is the Council Elder for Foreign Affairs in the Supreme Council. I answer to him, however I will be heading most interactions.

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Postby Grater Tovakia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:35 pm

So the NPO is not in charge but the government has proud NPO supporters/members in it?
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Postby The Gilded Star » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:36 pm

Hepner wrote:I am in charge of media relations in the outer council. Draganisia is the Council Elder for Foreign Affairs in the Supreme Council. I answer to him, however I will be heading most interactions.


I'm relieved for St. Abbaddon's sake that you're the one in charge of public speaking, then. Good luck.

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Postby Hepner » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:50 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:So the NPO is not in charge but the government has proud NPO supporters/members in it?

Yes, that is the case.

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Postby Lyrical International Brigade » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:33 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:Chief Council Elder: Dragonisia
Council Elder of Foreign Affairs: Draganisia

You guys related or something?


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Postby Draganisia » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:04 pm

Grater Tovakia wrote:So the NPO is not in charge but the government has proud NPO supporters/members in it?

Yes this is more or less the most accurate statement about that.

As long as the NPO helps us we in turn may help them but they do not govern us.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:06 pm

Ah, I see the puppet-king has decided to expand his puppet-regime's horizons. Welcome to Gameplay, and enjoy the salt.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:15 pm

Dragonisia wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:My puppet storage region has a unique history


Sounds like a lot of effort for a puppet storage region.. *chortles*.

Or more likely, you're severely overstating what it means to have a 'unique history'
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Postby Escade » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:10 pm

Who made the flag? I love the mermaids (ofc).

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Hepner
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Postby Hepner » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:40 pm

Escade wrote:Who made the flag? I love the mermaids (ofc).

Thank you, credits for the flag are due to Niktobr, I believe.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:19 pm

Hepner wrote:
Escade wrote:Who made the flag? I love the mermaids (ofc).

Thank you, credits for the flag are due to Niktobr, I believe.

To be clear, credit for part of the flag -- the mermaids and trident -- clearly goes to Topid, as evidenced by that image being used on the current flag of St Abby. The first time that flag was used in St Abbaddon was the last time Topid was Delegate there in April 2016, after the region was freed from DEN as a result of the Predator punishment. All you've done is taken Topid's flag and added stars. Let's not pretend it's your original work.

As a matter of fact, do you have Topid's permission for using his flag, or did you just plagiarize it?
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Saint Block
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Postby Saint Block » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:43 pm

Lol Cormac. So salty. It’s just a flag.

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Postby Armaros » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:00 am

The NPO already has a thread, no need for another one.
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:01 am

The NPO does not govern St Abbaddon. Nations that are in this region’s government that are also in the NPO do so if their own free will, just as countless other nations do around the NS world. I believe it is called cosmopolitanism and many of those complaining are very familiar with the concept.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:22 am

Pierconium wrote:The NPO does not govern St Abbaddon. Nations that are in this region’s government that are also in the NPO do so if their own free will, just as countless other nations do around the NS world. I believe it is called cosmopolitanism and many of those complaining are very familiar with the concept.

The NPO's "protectorate" arrangement with St Abbaddon makes this a unique situation in comparison to ordinary cosmopolitanism. This is not to mention that the NPO is supposedly regionalist and opposed to cosmopolitanism, and specifically is supposed to be cautious to guard against exploitation.

"[T]he Pacific must be extremely cautious in drawing up any documentation with a Userite region, always careful to safeguard the sovereignty and freedom of each so that exploitation cannot occur and class conflict does not resurface and damage the Francoist Pacific or her people." - Proper Francoist Thought
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