What is Violetism?

[Asalne]

I often hear of this minority religion being mentioned in Asalne. They apparently hate safety headwear, do human sacrifice, and have a tendency to being terrorist dicks. I know for a fact that this faith did not originate here. Could you guys tell me what is Violetism really? What is it's country of origin? Is it abrahamic or pagan or animist or what?

[Democratic Empire of Romania]

Oldest religion of NationStates. Once sprawling throught all of NS, now a small minority everywhere. Few nations still promote Violetism today.

[Jebslund]

I often hear of this minority religion being mentioned in Asalne. They apparently hate safety headwear, do human sacrifice, and have a tendency to being terrorist dicks. I know for a fact that this faith did not originate here. Could you guys tell me what is Violetism really? What is it's country of origin? Is it abrahamic or pagan or animist or what?

It did actually originate here as an issue "Faith". The name is based on one of the admins, [violet].

It's a placeholder so as not to offend any adherents of real-world religions.

[Valrifell]

Violetism is a purely in-game creation meant to venerate our glorious site admin [violet] and was one of (if not the) first running gags in issues and across the site. It's specific aspects are left vague to let the player fill in the gaps while at the same time allowing authors to parody religion without stepping on too many toes.

Also, you seem relatively new, so hello! But for future reference this kind of topic would be better suited for Got Issues? rather than General, since the former is the in-game issue subforum and General is the IRL discussion board.

[Asalne]

I often hear of this minority religion being mentioned in Asalne. They apparently hate safety headwear, do human sacrifice, and have a tendency to being terrorist dicks. I know for a fact that this faith did not originate here. Could you guys tell me what is Violetism really? What is it's country of origin? Is it abrahamic or pagan or animist or what?

It did actually originate here as an issue "Faith". The name is based on one of the admins, [violet].

It's a placeholder so as not to offend any adherents of real-world religions.

Did violet have a nation at one point? It would be reasonable to consider that nation to be the epicenter of the faith.

[North Cross]

It's kind of a jokey, self-referential NationStates "religion" that seems to have amorphic, shifting qualities that fit whatever purpose is needed for a particular Issue.

The main administrator on here is named [violet] and seems to have sprung from meta-jokes about that

[Asalne]

It's kind of a jokey, self-referential NationStates "religion" that seems to have amorphic, shifting qualities that fit whatever purpose is needed for a particular Issue.

The main administrator on here is named [violet] and seems to have sprung from meta-jokes about that

Are there any other violetist practices or ideals that I should know about?

I know that violinists
-hate protective headwear
-do human sacrifice
-do terrorism
but that's about it

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

I often hear of this minority religion being mentioned in Asalne. They apparently hate safety headwear, do human sacrifice, and have a tendency to being terrorist dicks. I know for a fact that this faith did not originate here. Could you guys tell me what is Violetism really? What is it's country of origin? Is it abrahamic or pagan or animist or what?

ITS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION!

[Gospel Power]

Bro, here is a factbook not written by me, which will explain you everything about this faith:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=551343

[North Cross]

Are there any other violetist practices or ideals that I should know about?

I know that violinists
-hate protective headwear
-do human sacrifice
-do terrorism
but that's about it

Well, there's nothing you should know about it, as it's mostly meaningless fun.

But, let's see...They seem to be quite opposed to the cult of Yellow Tranquility (is that the name?) and the Yellowists are often violently opposed to them, often coming off much worse than the violetists

[North Cross]

Bro, here is a factbook not written by me, which will explain you everything about this faith:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=551343

That factbook looks like heresy, to me, son. I would avoid propagating such un-truths lest you attract some Inquisition...

[Jebslund]

It did actually originate here as an issue "Faith". The name is based on one of the admins, [violet].

It's a placeholder so as not to offend any adherents of real-world religions.

Did violet have a nation at one point? It would be reasonable to consider that nation to be the epicenter of the faith.

Not really. As others have said, it's one part running gag, one part tribute, and one part "[insert religion here]" placeholder. It's not really meant to be an internally consistent, canon religion so much as a way to poke fun at real-world religions without the baggage and shitstorms that come with using the names of the religions being made fun of. Basically:

-Sacred top hats = Niqab/Kippah/Yarmulke
-Terrorism issues = Radical Islam terrorism issues
- Human Sacrifice = "Satanism"/"Paganism"/native faiths which still practice ritual human sacrifice.

Basically, you're not really meant to take it as a religion in and of itself so much as an allegory for whatever real-world religion is commonly associated with the problem being presented in the issue.

[Asalne]

Bro, here is a factbook not written by me, which will explain you everything about this faith:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=551343

Mecca...Why Mecca?
I really don't think muslims would share their holy site with someone who sounds kind of like a mormon.

[Gospel Power]

Bro, here is a factbook not written by me, which will explain you everything about this faith:

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=551343

That factbook looks like heresy, to me, son. I would avoid propagating such un-truths lest you attract some Inquisition...

I know it's heresy, but he/she needs to know the truth.

[Asalne]

Did violet have a nation at one point? It would be reasonable to consider that nation to be the epicenter of the faith.

Not really. As others have said, it's one part running gag, one part tribute, and one part "[insert religion here]" placeholder. It's not really meant to be an internally consistent, canon religion so much as a way to poke fun at real-world religions without the baggage and shitstorms that come with using the names of the religions being made fun of. Basically:

-Sacred top hats = Niqab/Kippah/Yarmulke
-Terrorism issues = Radical Islam terrorism issues
- Human Sacrifice = "Satanism"/"Paganism"/native faiths which still practice ritual human sacrifice.

Basically, you're not really meant to take it as a religion in and of itself so much as an allegory for whatever real-world religion is commonly associated with the problem being presented in the issue.

Then why does Christianity still get a name drop in some issues?

If we can talk about Christians trying to censor Harry Potter,
surely we can talk about Islamic Terror

[Valrifell]

Not really. As others have said, it's one part running gag, one part tribute, and one part "[insert religion here]" placeholder. It's not really meant to be an internally consistent, canon religion so much as a way to poke fun at real-world religions without the baggage and shitstorms that come with using the names of the religions being made fun of. Basically:

-Sacred top hats = Niqab/Kippah/Yarmulke
-Terrorism issues = Radical Islam terrorism issues
- Human Sacrifice = "Satanism"/"Paganism"/native faiths which still practice ritual human sacrifice.

Basically, you're not really meant to take it as a religion in and of itself so much as an allegory for whatever real-world religion is commonly associated with the problem being presented in the issue.

Then why does Christianity still get a name drop in some issues?

If we can talk about Christians trying to censor Harry Potter,
surely we can talk about Islamic Terror

Harry Potter Censorship Row does not mention Christianity. It just calls the complainer a "religious leader"

Issues don't make assumptions about the nation, barring a few instances of titles and legislature names.

[Jebslund]

Not really. As others have said, it's one part running gag, one part tribute, and one part "[insert religion here]" placeholder. It's not really meant to be an internally consistent, canon religion so much as a way to poke fun at real-world religions without the baggage and shitstorms that come with using the names of the religions being made fun of. Basically:

-Sacred top hats = Niqab/Kippah/Yarmulke
-Terrorism issues = Radical Islam terrorism issues
- Human Sacrifice = "Satanism"/"Paganism"/native faiths which still practice ritual human sacrifice.

Basically, you're not really meant to take it as a religion in and of itself so much as an allegory for whatever real-world religion is commonly associated with the problem being presented in the issue.

Then why does Christianity still get a name drop in some issues?

If we can talk about Christians trying to censor Harry Potter,
surely we can talk about Islamic Terror

Because some issues authors specify Christianity. It's not so much that there's a rule against name-dropping religions as that a lot of people prefer not to do it, while some are fine with it. You'll notice as time goes on that, while most issues use Bland-Name Products WcDonalds, and similar tropes to avoid name-dropping real-world things/people/places/religions/etc, some don't bother and just name drop away, particularly older ones.

[Asalne]

Then why does Christianity still get a name drop in some issues?

If we can talk about Christians trying to censor Harry Potter,
surely we can talk about Islamic Terror

Harry Potter Censorship Row does not mention Christianity. It just calls the complainer a "religious leader"

Issues don't make assumptions about the nation, barring a few instances of titles and legislature names.

It says in the don't censor option; "religious wackos, like christians"

[Valrifell]

Harry Potter Censorship Row does not mention Christianity. It just calls the complainer a "religious leader"

Issues don't make assumptions about the nation, barring a few instances of titles and legislature names.

It says in the don't censor option; "religious wackos, like christians"

Don't even have to check that one for an "mmm, no it doesn't."

EDIT: It does, didn't realize that. Don't really read that one anymore

[Page]

A stand in for various real world religions and cults depending on the issue.

In the bike helmet issue, they're a stand in for Sikhs. In the terrorism issue, they're a stand in for radical Islamists. The human sacrifice thing, they're just a generic cult.

[Dushan]

Violetism is worshipping the almighty Violet which was originally a hacker figure from Max Barry's novel Jennifer Government and also happens to be the name of the technical administrator of NationStates.

So yes, violetism is worshipping your supreme admintrix.


She built this place.
Down here, she make the rules.
Down here, she make the threats.
Down here, she's god.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYpkrQc9PeA

PS: its also an inside joke

[Page]

Not really. As others have said, it's one part running gag, one part tribute, and one part "[insert religion here]" placeholder. It's not really meant to be an internally consistent, canon religion so much as a way to poke fun at real-world religions without the baggage and shitstorms that come with using the names of the religions being made fun of. Basically:

-Sacred top hats = Niqab/Kippah/Yarmulke
-Terrorism issues = Radical Islam terrorism issues
- Human Sacrifice = "Satanism"/"Paganism"/native faiths which still practice ritual human sacrifice.

Basically, you're not really meant to take it as a religion in and of itself so much as an allegory for whatever real-world religion is commonly associated with the problem being presented in the issue.

Then why does Christianity still get a name drop in some issues?

If we can talk about Christians trying to censor Harry Potter,
surely we can talk about Islamic Terror

Nationstates slowly developed its worldbuilding over many years, with Violetism, the World Assembly, and recurring fictional countries like Bigtopia, Daguo, and Marche Noire.

In the early days, there were more real world elements. The WA used to be the United Nations with an actual UN logo and everything too, until (I shit you not, this happened) Max Barry got a cease and desist order from the real UN.

[North Cross]

Then why does Christianity still get a name drop in some issues?

If we can talk about Christians trying to censor Harry Potter,
surely we can talk about Islamic Terror

Only in the early issues will you find those few direct references to Christianity. Not long after, it became standard practice not to name-drop specific religions. But those early references were left in out of regard for tradition and beginnings.

[The Blaatschapen]

It says in the don't censor option; "religious wackos, like christians"

Don't even have to check that one for an "mmm, no it doesn't."

EDIT: It does, didn't realize that. Don't really read that one anymore

Yeah, the old issues did not have it yet. The first 30 were the original issues in the game. Violetism and other NS Issues Universe building stuff came later. And retconning/editing the first issues that mention Christianity, etc. is a call for the issue editors to make.

[Veltor]

I'm pretty sure one of the issues used to mention Catholics and changed to "traditional religion".