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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:51 am

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Statement Regarding St Abbaddon Protectorate Status


The government of the Pacific formally informed the Delegate of St Abbaddon today of its intention to nullify the New Pacific Order Protectorate Treaty pursuant to Section III, Article 002. Per the terms of the treaty, protectorate status remains in force for a period of 48 hours from notification. Therefore at 13:48 GMT on 13 January 2019, the New Pacific Order will no longer act as protector for the region St Abbaddon. All NPO associated World Assembly nations, acting in accordance with the Legio, will at that time be ordered to return to the Pacific, endorse both the sitting and incoming Delegate nations, and prepare for a resumption of active military duty. Formal association with the region of St Abbaddon will cease at this point, although friendly relations will remain and Embassies will remain open unless the former protectorate deems it otherwise.

Specific grievances addressed with the Delegate nation of St Abbaddon include repeated and ongoing violation of Section I, Article 003: Both parties hereby mutually agree to seek increased cooperation for the bilateral benefit of the signatory regions.

The New Pacific Order has attempted to work with the Delegate nation of St Abbaddon for an extended period of time to ensure the mutually beneficial growth of the protectorate region, through encouragement to recruit, assistance with internal security, and aid in direction for government formation. To date, the Delegate nation has rebuffed efforts from the New Pacific Order in these regards, especially and primarily in the act of recruitment. After several conversations, taking place over the last several weeks, the Delegate of St Abbaddon has still failed to take appropriate action to ensure the independence and prosperity of their region. The latest violation of this is the appointment of a new Regional Officer yesterday that has been tasked with taking up recruitment when they 'find the time'. The New Pacific Order maintains that the prosperity of a founderless region, any founderless region, rests within the hands of the World Assembly Delegate. As the Delegate of St Abbaddon has been reluctant to take up this duty, he has placed both the continued prosperity and security for St Abbaddon and the Pacific at risk. This is unacceptable.

Signed,

East Durthang, Emperor
Pierconium, Consul
Xoriet and The Seeker of Power, Legatus
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Altmoras
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Postby Altmoras » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:07 am

So T-Minus two days until St. Abby gets raided into the dirt then.
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Armaros
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Postby Armaros » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:12 am

Best choice the NPO could have made in this situation. Surprised it took you this long.
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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:15 am

Armaros wrote:Best choice the NPO could have made in this situation. Surprised it took you this long.

The treaty itself is a very lopsided document insofar as nullification is concerned. Therefore we felt it to be in our best interests to attempt an addressing of our concerns. Unfortunately, our timetable for certain activities did not align with St Abbaddon's and we have come to this position.
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:34 am

Ah I see you did indeed nullify it properly, wasn't sure if you would or just ignore that part :p
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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:44 am

Lord Dominator wrote:Ah I see you did indeed nullify it properly, wasn't sure if you would or just ignore that part :p

Indeed. The Pacific values and honors its treaties. In this instance we did all that could reasonably be expected to save the treaty before moving towards nullification. While I personally disagree with the treaty and the potential reasons for its inception, that does not mean that I automatically dismissed it or the relationship it was meant to foster. The NPO worked towards resolution for several weeks before moving to this stage.
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Imperium of Josh
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Postby Imperium of Josh » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:19 am

RIP Kitsco then, lol.

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Davelands
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Postby Davelands » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:23 am

Altmoras wrote:So T-Minus two days until St. Abby gets raided into the dirt then.

True, but will anyone care.
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:09 am

Pierconium wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Ah I see you did indeed nullify it properly, wasn't sure if you would or just ignore that part :p

Indeed. The Pacific values and honors its treaties. In this instance we did all that could reasonably be expected to save the treaty before moving towards nullification. While I personally disagree with the treaty and the potential reasons for its inception, that does not mean that I automatically dismissed it or the relationship it was meant to foster. The NPO worked towards resolution for several weeks before moving to this stage.

I get you, I was just thinking it was nice you ditched the terrible treaty the proper way then just violating it or not following the protection part until another 'government' removes it themselves :p
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Yokiria
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Postby Yokiria » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:28 am

A wise decision by the New Pacific Order. Those World Assembly endorsements are very obviously needed in the Pacific right now.
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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:38 am

Yokiria wrote:A wise decision by the New Pacific Order. Those World Assembly endorsements are very obviously needed in the Pacific right now.

Hardly. The Legio will be returning to the Pacific in order to begin training for more active engagements elsewhere. This move has little to nothing to do with the internal transition within the Pacific.
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Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…

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Imperium of Josh
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Postby Imperium of Josh » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:54 am

Pierconium wrote:
Yokiria wrote:A wise decision by the New Pacific Order. Those World Assembly endorsements are very obviously needed in the Pacific right now.

Hardly. The Legio will be returning to the Pacific in order to begin training for more active engagements elsewhere. This move has little to nothing to do with the internal transition within the Pacific.

Riiiiight... Meanwhile in the real world we can all see that LoD is still a "comfy" 100 endos behind Ale and is still very much not delegate of The Pacific. Pilers are absolutely required XD

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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:05 pm

Imperium of Josh wrote:
Pierconium wrote:Hardly. The Legio will be returning to the Pacific in order to begin training for more active engagements elsewhere. This move has little to nothing to do with the internal transition within the Pacific.

Riiiiight... Meanwhile in the real world we can all see that LoD is still a "comfy" 100 endos behind Ale and is still very much not delegate of The Pacific. Pilers are absolutely required XD

We are not seeking a change in the Delegacy at this moment. We are still in the process of organising the Influence.
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Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…

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Th empire of wymondham
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Postby Th empire of wymondham » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:21 pm

Pierconium wrote:
Imperium of Josh wrote:Riiiiight... Meanwhile in the real world we can all see that LoD is still a "comfy" 100 endos behind Ale and is still very much not delegate of The Pacific. Pilers are absolutely required XD

We are not seeking a change in the Delegacy at this moment. We are still in the process of organising the Influence.

How long is this handover going to take then, if you are to believed and I for one do not believe a word you have just said, 6 months, a year maybe!
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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:32 pm

Th empire of wymondham wrote:
Pierconium wrote:We are not seeking a change in the Delegacy at this moment. We are still in the process of organising the Influence.

How long is this handover going to take then, if you are to believed and I for one do not believe a word you have just said, 6 months, a year maybe!

Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t realise our internal operations were any of your concern.

How is that war going by the way? I am still in the Pacific...
Consul of the Pacific

Tyrant (Ret.)


Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…

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Yokiria
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Postby Yokiria » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:36 pm

Pierconium wrote:This move has little to nothing to do with the internal transition within the Pacific.

Doubtful.

Pierconium wrote:How is that war going by the way?

Our opponent just gave up a protectorate.
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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:38 pm

Yokiria wrote:
Pierconium wrote:This move has little to nothing to do with the internal transition within the Pacific.

Doubtful.

Pierconium wrote:How is that war going by the way?

Our opponent just gave up a protectorate.

Indeed. We are shaking in our boots.

Your opinion is noted.

The idea of ‘protectorates’ in NS is ridiculous. While I maintain no ill will towards St Abbaddon, this was a bad deal written for poor reasons that was heavily lopsided in its benefits. No region in their right mind should enter into such an agreement, especially structured as this treaty is.

My aim since returning to government in the Pacific has been to assist St Abbaddon achieve full independence in the hope that they would declare themselves so but ongoing issues have resulted in the decision shared today.

If I had been in position earlier, the aim would have been earlier. If the ‘war’ was not taking place, the aim would still be the same. Political intervention has zero relevance to this decision insofar as I am concerned.
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Consul of the Pacific

Tyrant (Ret.)


Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…

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Dragonisia
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Postby Dragonisia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:40 pm

Pierconium wrote:
Statement Regarding St Abbaddon Protectorate Status



Why don't you guys just tell me who I need to execute? *chortle*
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Personal Motto: L'État, c'est moi
Full Country Name: Dragonisia (PT), Dragonisia (MT), The Dragonisian Collective of Individual Personas(FT)
Demonym: Dragonisian
Rulers: Emperor Maelstrom Vortex, Empress Koudoawaia Vortex
Capital: Dragonisia
Government Type: Absolute Imperial with a representative democratic legislature. (PT/MT) Collective of DIstinct Minds (FT)
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=dragonisia/detail=factbook
Tech: Willing to play at any tech range and fiction class.
Foreign Policy: Unrestricted Diplomacy
Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.64
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:07 pm

It will be good to see St Abbaddon liberated from its puppet-king and throwing off the last vestiges of NPO imperialism soon.
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Elegarth
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Elegarth » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:35 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:It will be good to see St Abbaddon liberated from its puppet-king and throwing off the last vestiges of NPO imperialism soon.

So sorry: never going to happen as we never had a puppet king. Then again, you and the truth rarely get along anyway.

Illusions aside, I'm happy to see this. I never supported that treaty and have, since my return to the Senate, being pushing for its formal dissolution through legal means.

I wish St Ab the best, and it is a pitty that petty double faced "good doers" from APC will now try to harm them, but hey, this IS gameplay.

Anyway... Cheers.
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Zizou
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Postby Zizou » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:33 pm

Elegarth wrote:I wish St Ab the best, and it is a pitty that petty double faced "good doers" from APC will now try to harm them, but hey, this IS gameplay.

No reason for the APC to jump on St Abby, nor is there a reason to assume we will.

Regardless, congratulations to St Abby on their independence! :clap:
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Dragonisia
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Postby Dragonisia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:33 pm

Bah, seems like I get to roll no heads this time.

Abbey will do well. I'm confident in our team.
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THENEW PACIFICORDER



Personal Motto: L'État, c'est moi
Full Country Name: Dragonisia (PT), Dragonisia (MT), The Dragonisian Collective of Individual Personas(FT)
Demonym: Dragonisian
Rulers: Emperor Maelstrom Vortex, Empress Koudoawaia Vortex
Capital: Dragonisia
Government Type: Absolute Imperial with a representative democratic legislature. (PT/MT) Collective of DIstinct Minds (FT)
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The Gilded Star
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Postby The Gilded Star » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:48 pm

Elegarth wrote:So sorry: never going to happen as we never had a puppet king.


I feel the accusation would hold less water if Kitsco had put as much effort into being king as he had bragging about being king. That the NPO seems to be nullifying their treaty with St. Abbaddon due to lethargy from Kitsco once again sparks questions of whether Kitsco is holding onto the title of king with the intent to lead, or merely bask upon the laurels of the title.

Nonetheless, the establishment of the Council was a good move for St. Abbaddon's future, and I hope they succeed in giving St. Abbaddon the leadership and representation that it deserves.

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Dragonisia
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Postby Dragonisia » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:52 pm

The Gilded Star wrote:
Elegarth wrote:So sorry: never going to happen as we never had a puppet king.


I feel the accusation would hold less water if Kitsco had put as much effort into being king as he had bragging about being king. That the NPO seems to be nullifying their treaty with St. Abbaddon due to lethargy from Kitsco once again sparks questions of whether Kitsco is holding onto the title of king with the intent to lead, or merely bask upon the laurels of the title.

Nonetheless, the establishment of the Council was a good move for St. Abbaddon's future, and I hope they succeed in giving St. Abbaddon the leadership and representation that it deserves.


Well, so long as no one tries to drown the council we have some very skilled people in place now. It took some time to get things sorted, but the current council I have a very high level of confidence in. Jesbro has diplomatic experience from similar, more war based worlds and is energized. I.. well.. I have a bit of a reputation among certain communities. I was active in this world a long time ago. Events transpired to re-energize me. Hepner has made a few mistakes, but he knows what he's doing and I think he'll turn out to be good media. In terms of Kitsco, he's an affable leader. I understand he's had some issues with others though that are causing a lot of this strife. My hope is if he puts the welfare of the region first and I have confidence in him to do so, this will all turn out alright.

However, a lot of that depends on the good will of the APC. Wish us luck!
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THENEW PACIFICORDER



Personal Motto: L'État, c'est moi
Full Country Name: Dragonisia (PT), Dragonisia (MT), The Dragonisian Collective of Individual Personas(FT)
Demonym: Dragonisian
Rulers: Emperor Maelstrom Vortex, Empress Koudoawaia Vortex
Capital: Dragonisia
Government Type: Absolute Imperial with a representative democratic legislature. (PT/MT) Collective of DIstinct Minds (FT)
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=dragonisia/detail=factbook
Tech: Willing to play at any tech range and fiction class.
Foreign Policy: Unrestricted Diplomacy
Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.64
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Ballpit
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Postby Ballpit » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:32 pm

Pierconium wrote:We are not seeking a change in the Delegacy at this moment. We are still in the process of organising the Influence.


“We are not seeking a change in Delegacy...”

Oh, so the WFE part where it says “endorse East Durthang” must mean something else to you than it does to me. Oh and don’t forget the current delegate’s pretitle. “Endorse East Durthang”

Sounds like a Delegate transition is exactly what you seek.
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