Embassy of the NPO

[KhanterWinters]

I'm not really the holding hands type.

Don't believe him, Khanter. He's a Tsundere.

As I imagine... I just want to carry on and focus this year to another Drama, I do like NPO Peeps and in each Region where I belong, says "NPO Delenda Est" OR, "Remain Neutral"....

[Dragonisia]

I love this back and forth about democratic governance in the Order.

I just wanted to observe a universal law regarding organizations upon this world. Democracy.. is everywhere. No, I'm not even joking. You might think the Emperor's rule is absolute, but like any other organization the New Pacific Order has a very specific vulnerability:

People can still vote with their feet. Just.. in the New Pacific Order.. we don't. Because we're just.. that.. good.

When you have quality governance, there is no reason to depart. When your words are respected, there is no reason to seek another ear. When discipline is held to the highest standard, you don't want to leave the ranks. Cormactopia Prime is wrong. The New Pacific Order is a democracy. It's a tyranny of consent. A most fabulous meritocracy carefully held in tact by those who want to see it thrive. The door's opened and we can always leave. We just don't.

I've served a decade in this Order across multiple worlds and in almost every one, there was not a comparable institution. I heartily approve of the changes in our constitution which more or less recognize how our internal affairs have always functioned. If we were some tin-pot dictatorship, we'd simply fade into oblivion, but we have not.

I have only had brief stints in our government. I hold little influence now other than the respect commanded by my tenure, but I still call this Order, most happily, my home. Dragons do not submit to just anyone or live just anywhere. We choose whom to serve.. and we choose where.

[The Gilded Star]

To be fair, it's kind of hard for a Feeder region to fade into oblivion, tin-pot dictatorship or not.

[Jar Wattinree]

To be fair, it's kind of hard for a Feeder region to fade into oblivion, tin-pot dictatorship or not.

APC should've taken notes. lol

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

I love this back and forth about democratic governance in the Order.

I just wanted to observe a universal law regarding organizations upon this world. Democracy.. is everywhere. No, I'm not even joking. You might think the Emperor's rule is absolute, but like any other organization the New Pacific Order has a very specific vulnerability:

People can still vote with their feet. Just.. in the New Pacific Order.. we don't. Because we're just.. that.. good.

When you have quality governance, there is no reason to depart. When your words are respected, there is no reason to seek another ear. When discipline is held to the highest standard, you don't want to leave the ranks. Cormactopia Prime is wrong. The New Pacific Order is a democracy. It's a tyranny of consent. A most fabulous meritocracy carefully held in tact by those who want to see it thrive. The door's opened and we can always leave. We just don't.

I'm amused by the lack of awareness.

Considering The Pacific has less nations than all but TWP out of the feeders, and the least number of World Assembly endorsements of any feeder - by quite a margin too, then yeah, it seems people have voted with their feet.

[Ryccia]

I love this back and forth about democratic governance in the Order.

I just wanted to observe a universal law regarding organizations upon this world. Democracy.. is everywhere. No, I'm not even joking. You might think the Emperor's rule is absolute, but like any other organization the New Pacific Order has a very specific vulnerability:

People can still vote with their feet. Just.. in the New Pacific Order.. we don't. Because we're just.. that.. good.

When you have quality governance, there is no reason to depart. When your words are respected, there is no reason to seek another ear. When discipline is held to the highest standard, you don't want to leave the ranks. Cormactopia Prime is wrong. The New Pacific Order is a democracy. It's a tyranny of consent. A most fabulous meritocracy carefully held in tact by those who want to see it thrive. The door's opened and we can always leave. We just don't.

When you have imperialistic goverance that many are appalled by, there is reason to depart. When an old guard keeps getting recycled, there is reason to seek another ear. When the Emperor himself approves of subversion and manipulation of a fellow GCR, you want to leave the ranks.

Cormac is right. The New Pacific Order is a dictatorship, enshrined in its own Constitution. It is a tyranny by consent of those in power. A most fabulous corrupt state held together by those who want to see it expand. The door is open for all who wish to change their homeland, but are faced with the "meritocracy" that keeps this...thing alive. Those who see the writing on the wall leave.

Seriously, when you need to bring people from literal Antiquity and from a totally different game (your Emperor!) to fix your mistakes, that suggests that there is a culture that keeps infiltrating other regions for the hell of it, influenced by a literal decade and a half of Francoism and other decisions from the elite. Perhaps this culture was fostered by the leadership, leading to the NLO, Task Force Lazarus, infiltration of several regions either by the state or by rogue actors...how curious, is it not?

You will inevitably run out of the old guard. You cannot keep doing this forever. For all this has already happened. And all of this will happen again. Nothing significant has changed at the halls of the NPO. Ever since Antiquity, it has been pulling this ridiculous stunt, noticeably with the NPO's founder himself, Francos Spain, literally leaving to take command of TNP and secure it for his empi- ahem, I meant "Autocratic Meritocracy" (or whatever façade you wish to hide under). You must remember: you are from those days. Even if you have ditched Francoism, it is not a question of if you will bring it back, but when. When will you repeat your errors, I wonder?

I was there, during the NLO. When the NPO apologized for its infringment upon Lazarus' sovereignty and dignity, I was glad to give it a second chance. But look at where we are: you have done it once more. Who can trust you ever again, when your horrifying flaws are in display for the public?

I am convinced that, for the NPO to ever change, it must suffer a radical transformation, not this cosmetic change. Until then, we shall fight to the end. For we will not fall for this trick once more.

Dragons do not submit to just anyone or live just anywhere. We choose whom to serve.. and we choose where.

Good for you. Keep guzzling that good ol' Francool-Aid (which you have now labelled as this "Body Republic"). Definitely did not expire a decade or so ago.

[The Seeker of Power]

I was there, during the NLO. When the NPO apologized for its infringment upon Lazarus' sovereignty and dignity, I was glad to give it a second chance. But look at where we are: you have done it once more. Who can trust you ever again, when your horrifying flaws are in display for the public?

I am convinced that, for the NPO to ever change, it must suffer a radical transformation, not this cosmetic change. Until then, we shall fight to the end. For we will not fall for this trick once more.

I'm afraid you ARE wrong. However, your opinions, like anyone's opinions, are always free to be mistaken opinions.

For the record: I'm only talking about CURRENT AFFAIRS below.

NPO didn't do anything a second time. I've reviewed the logs and conversations since my return to the Order, I've checked the facts, and the NPO - as an organization - did not infiltrated or tried to subvert anyone. Two individuals - who many in GP seem to admire sometimes, however baffling that results to me - tried as individuals and from a private perspective to damage/manipulate/subvert the regions they thought were easy to harm. I personally loath and condemn their actions, and I'm baffled by the fact that no one has actually tried to pass an actual SC condemnation against them...

Now, this does not means that the previous Imperial Leadership of the NPO didn't failed. They did. They failed and not only to the GP community but also to the NPO itself: Feux and AMOM should have never been reaccepted. Their actions should have never been hidden. Their behaviors should have been made public, denounced properly, and the target regions should have been notified. The former Imperial Leadership FAILED here.

They also failed on ALLOWING such a discussion as that of the Lazarus Task Force to have happened. While it never derived in actions, the sole idea itself should have been shunned from the start. NLO should have taught them, but it didn't.

They are now gone. For good. Perhaps I should have never left the NPO the first time but I didn't felt at home anymore. The NLO hurt me: I never approved of it. This is known. If I had been there, I could have perhaps prevented this from happening. or I may have been ousted. Who knows?

The thing is, this is not happening again. I've worked with ED for many years and I know him well. You are right that for many of you, he is mostly unknown, but he isn't for me. This kind of ridiculous things wouldn't have happened under him, and with me, Ivan and ED in the Senate, they won't happen, I can assure you. Will we be there forever? Hopefully no, lol. But that is our job: to ensure the Order evolves into what it was evolving after the NLO, into what it should have evolved.

You want to keep "fighting" a ghost? Go for it. Whatever strikes your fancy and amuses you! But what a waste of effort...

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Edit: Just to clarify something that should be obvious: this is MY take, MY opinion and MY goal as Senator. I've accepted to return to NPO with the goal and intend of righting these wrongs. I know this view may not be shared by all members of the New Pacific Order, because contrary to popular belief, Pacificans are allowed to have their own opinions. But yeah... Just want to make this OBVIOUS thing clear.

[Lord Dominator]

They also failed on ALLOWING such a discussion as that of the Lazarus Task Force to have happened. While it never derived in actions, the sole idea itself should have been shunned from the start. NLO should have taught them, but it didn't.

Uh, what? Pretty sure there was extensive action within Lazarus that came from TFL.

[Pierconium]

Just to point it out, the actions of Francos Spain in TNP were part of an ongoing war between the NPO and the ADN and not an attempt to subvert the regional government (such as it was then). It was an overt invasion.

[Lord Dominator]

Just to point it out, the actions of Francos Spain in TNP were part of an ongoing war between the NPO and the ADN and not an attempt to subvert the regional government (such as it was then). It was an overt invasion.

Are you justifying or clarifying?
I can't honestly tell

[Elegarth]

Just to point it out, the actions of Francos Spain in TNP were part of an ongoing war between the NPO and the ADN and not an attempt to subvert the regional government (such as it was then). It was an overt invasion.

Are you justifying or clarifying?
I can't honestly tell

It is clearly a clarification... How does it comes across as a justification? I'm confused...

[Lord Dominator]

Are you justifying or clarifying?
I can't honestly tell

It is clearly a clarification... How does it comes across as a justification? I'm confused...

I couldn't tell the difference because of the phrasing. 'Just to point it out' can read like either, at least to me.

[The Seeker of Power]

It is clearly a clarification... How does it comes across as a justification? I'm confused...

I couldn't tell the difference because of the phrasing. 'Just to point it out' can read like either, at least to me.

Interesting...

[Pierconium]

Just to point it out, the actions of Francos Spain in TNP were part of an ongoing war between the NPO and the ADN and not an attempt to subvert the regional government (such as it was then). It was an overt invasion.

Are you justifying or clarifying?
I can't honestly tell

I don’t feel the need to justify anything that took place 15+ years ago to anyone.

[KhanterWinters]

Are you justifying or clarifying?
I can't honestly tell

It is clearly a clarification... How does it comes across as a justification? I'm confused...

I mean, I read it as a justification. With all that comes normally here in NSGP, it sounded more as a Justification.

[Pierconium]

It is clearly a clarification... How does it comes across as a justification? I'm confused...

I mean, I read it as a justification. With all that comes normally here in NSGP, it sounded more as a Justification.

As the original position put forth by Ryccia was that the NPO had historically been subverting GCRs all the way back to FS, I think clarification that it was an overt action is hardly justification for subversive action.

[Lord Dominator]

I couldn't tell the difference because of the phrasing. 'Just to point it out' can read like either, at least to me.

Interesting...

I blame the nature of English grammar

[KhanterWinters]

I mean, I read it as a justification. With all that comes normally here in NSGP, it sounded more as a Justification.

As the original position put forth by Ryccia was that the NPO had historically been subverting GCRs all the way back to FS, I think clarification that it was an overt action is hardly justification for subversive action.

I think I get you. However, as LD said, English is a thing, and more when there is no tone of voice, or expressions. But thanks for the Clarification

and Thanks for the Clarification of the Clarification

[Pierconium]

Interesting...

I blame the nature of English grammar

That is why context should be considered.

[Lord Dominator]

I blame the nature of English grammar

That is why context should be considered.

I consider the context that most of my mindpower is thinking about cartoons even when reading NS stuff

[The Seeker of Power]

That is why context should be considered.

I consider the context that most of my mindpower is thinking about cartoons even when reading NS stuff

Hope at least it is Rick and Morty

[Lord Dominator]

I consider the context that most of my mindpower is thinking about cartoons even when reading NS stuff

Hope at least it is Rick and Morty

French anime & My Little Pony actually
R&M is sooo last year, for like a week or so

[Dragonisia]

Hope at least it is Rick and Morty

French anime & My Little Pony actually
R&M is sooo last year, for like a week or so

This intrigues me.. and I do have ways to respond to this.. but it would humorously derail everything in this thread.

[Lord Dominator]

French anime & My Little Pony actually
R&M is sooo last year, for like a week or so

This intrigues me.. and I do have ways to respond to this.. but it would humorously derail everything in this thread.

As if that hadn't happened already

[Zizou]

The Delegacy transfer is happening at the rate I have advised. The physical change in leadership can happen safely at any time but we believe that East Durthang should be at 50k of Influence before the changeover takes place. This will take place over the next few weeks.

Thank you for your concern.

So we can expect the swap on February 8th/9th then?