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by NationStates Today » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:46 pm
by Kingdom of Napels » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:18 pm
NationStates Today wrote:It is important to note that NationStates Today was contacted by a current citizen of Lazarus without prompting with the details of the ‘leaks’ in question, with the relevance being to an article that was being written regarding the Better Together accords between The West Pacific and the New Pacific Order, and the treaty of Skandia between Balder and the New Pacific Order. The leaks in question related to a discussion regarding said treaties within Lazarus citizen only channels. As is our standard policy, joWhatup was asked to provide a statement on the issue before the article was published so as to ensure all sides of the argument were expressed, which led to the above response.
Such a procedure ensures that we do not publish leaks willy nilly, or without careful consideration. In some cases, this means we will not publish leaks at all.
Yet, factors that we don’t consider when discussing the publishability of leaks is threats from players, no matter their position, or the criminal code of a region which claims to prevent our publishing of the information over claims of espionage. Section 5 of our Charter demands that we counteract attempts at censorship, and the Board believes that the message joWhatup sent to our Public Relations Director is a blatant attempt at just that.
We say this, because after receiving the above threat from joWhatup we were contacted by Ryccia, the Lazarene Foreign Minister, who demanded, on the threat of prosecution as an organisation in Lazarus, that we not publish the leaks. We informed the Foreign Minister that we had no intention of complying with the Lazarene government’s request, in addition to reminding them that we are bound by the aforementioned Charter provisions to counteract attempts at censorship.
Regions cannot operate in the murky waters of silencing news organisations trying to publish stories they disagree with, without also being guilty of censorship. Indeed, in our previously outlined discussions with Ryccia on this matter it was claimed that they did “not wish to suppress the free press” while simultaneously doubling down on their demand for us not to publish the leaks in question.
In relation to joWhatup and Ryccia’s claim that NSToday’s leaking of the aforementioned information would be tantamount to espionage, we of course disagree.
To the wider community, we urge you to remember our focus is on reporting the news in as neutral a manner as possible.
We invite further, constructive, dialogue with Lazarus if they wish to engage with us on this issue further.
by Custadia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:28 pm
by Domais » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:42 pm
NationStates Today wrote:In relation to joWhatup and Ryccia’s claim that NSToday’s leaking of the aforementioned information would be tantamount to espionage, we of course disagree. Leaks in relation to known treaty concerns in major GCRs are a major gameplay story, and if we have information provided to us in such a matter we have a duty to report on it. Further, a neutral news organisation is not committing espionage if it reports on leaks provided to it, and so claims to that effect have no merit in our view. Indeed, the whole purpose of our organisation being free from regional control is to prevent us from being silenced due to any one region’s criminal code or foreign affairs policy.
(1) Any person who knowingly communicates information contained in a restricted area of Lazarus, in part or in whole, to a person or entity which does not have access to that restricted area, shall be guilty of espionage.
(2) The individual or government body responsible for a restricted area may sanction the distribution of information to another person or entity. Sharing information whose release has been sanctioned shall not be considered espionage.
(1) Any person who prepares, incites another or plans to commit an offence enumerated herein, shall be guilty of conspiracy to commit that offence.
by New Rogernomics » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:49 pm
Essentially the Lazarene government is going to request the identity of whoever leaked from the assembly for legal reasons.Boda wrote:Waiting to see how Lazarus responds...
by Big Bad Badger » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:52 pm
by New Rogernomics » Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:09 pm
Well. I am more like, "what did the leaker hope to get out of this?", as I know that supposedly NS Today is going to publish it because it is news, though if the goal of the leaker is to undermine TWP-Lazarus relations, it would be taking quite a legislative stretch to argue this is some scandalous expose of Lazarene government action.Big Bad Badger wrote:I find it NS offensive that NST would publish leaks from private areas of regions. If I were in charge of a region, I also would have to think twice about letting any NST official or anyone associated with NST from having citizenship access to private areas for fear of that information ending up in the NST fishwrap.
by Altino » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:19 pm
by Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:52 pm
Boda wrote:I think NS Today is filled with some good intentions and good people.
by Altino » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:59 pm
Boda wrote:I really hope this isn't #nstisoverparty. I think NS Today is filled with some good intentions and good people.
by Great Algerstonia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:00 pm
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
by Daytime to Night » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:11 pm
by The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:23 pm
by Custadia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:46 pm
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Really odd how people went straight to "oh he said not to leak it then NST leaked it" rather than "Lazarus official threatened NST if they didn't censor their reports". Frankly, NST are taking a stand for journalism here and Lazarus come across far worse.
by Qvait » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:56 pm
Custadia wrote:The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Really odd how people went straight to "oh he said not to leak it then NST leaked it" rather than "Lazarus official threatened NST if they didn't censor their reports". Frankly, NST are taking a stand for journalism here and Lazarus come across far worse.
Lazarus doesn't tolerate espionage or those who are accessories to it. Nor does any other region.
by Bormiar » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:07 pm
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Really odd how people went straight to "oh he said not to leak it then NST leaked it" rather than "Lazarus official threatened NST if they didn't censor their reports". Frankly, NST are taking a stand for journalism here and Lazarus come across far worse.
by Altino » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:15 pm
by The Church of Satan » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:16 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:22 pm
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
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by Jar Wattinree » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:23 pm
The Church of Satan wrote:As far as I can tell, both sides are just doing their jobs at this point. Lazarus is threatening legal action and NS Today is protecting its source. Too late to do much of anything else at this point.
by Lazarene Ryccia » Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:38 pm
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