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Xoriet
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Postby Xoriet » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:06 am

Pierconium wrote:Some hot takes here.

^ Got a bit shafted by this one since the worst of the APC stuff was largely handled by Ivan and he was behind or supported some major region changes.

I tried to avoid commenting on mine overall.
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Postby Aclion » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:49 am

I still think power20 sounds like a lottery game.
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Postby Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:12 am

The Church of Satan wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:influence need not be used towards productive or good IC ends to be good.

I believe this would be a correct assumption. Something like Time magazine's Person of the Year.

I mean, you are not wrong in principle but... looks at Time magazine's Man of 1938
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:20 am

Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:I believe this would be a correct assumption. Something like Time magazine's Person of the Year.

I mean, you are not wrong in principle but... looks at Time magazine's Man of 1938

The individual referenced did not in fact use their influence towards good ends, though I believe TIME wasn't aware of that at the time.
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Postby The Gilded Star » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:00 am

Xoriet wrote:
Pierconium wrote:Some hot takes here.

^ Got a bit shafted by this one since the worst of the APC stuff was largely handled by Ivan and he was behind or supported some major region changes.

I tried to avoid commenting on mine overall.


Now that you mention it, I am a little surprised that Ivan didn't make the list.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:10 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:I mean, you are not wrong in principle but... looks at Time magazine's Man of 1938

The individual referenced did not in fact use their influence towards good ends, though I believe TIME wasn't aware of that at the time.

Man of the Year is the most influential; not necessarily the best.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:32 am

United Massachusetts wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:The individual referenced did not in fact use their influence towards good ends, though I believe TIME wasn't aware of that at the time.

Man of the Year is the most influential; not necessarily the best.

I'm reasonably certain TIME would have removed Hitler if they were aware of what he had/was/would do, but otherwise you're not saying anything I'm not.
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Postby Pierconium » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:01 am

The Gilded Star wrote:
Xoriet wrote:^ Got a bit shafted by this one since the worst of the APC stuff was largely handled by Ivan and he was behind or supported some major region changes.

I tried to avoid commenting on mine overall.


Now that you mention it, I am a little surprised that Ivan didn't make the list.

While I was not only mentioning things directly related to myself, I do understand that such things happen. I’ve been retconned more times than I can remember, by both allies and enemies. Unlike some on this list, I don’t do the things I do for attention or accolades.
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Postby Custadia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:26 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Man of the Year is the most influential; not necessarily the best.

I'm reasonably certain TIME would have removed Hitler if they were aware of what he had/was/would do, but otherwise you're not saying anything I'm not.


I don't think TIME's man of the year is necesarrily meant as an honour; it's gone to controversial figures like Putin in recent years. It's for the most influential person, not the best. Hitler was certainly the former.

Getting off-topic, though.
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Postby Elegarth » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:21 pm

Kudos Xoriet! Shouldering that all on your own!! You are just awesome, girl!

Yes, this in tongue in cheek. And yes, she knows it is. And I bet is funny for both of us, if for no one else.

I do think Ivan should have made it into the list. But at least no one was crazy enough to put ME on it lmao :D
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:22 am

Lord Dominator wrote:I'm reasonably certain TIME would have removed Hitler if they were aware of what he had/was/would do, but otherwise you're not saying anything I'm not.

Despite the magazine's frequent statements to the contrary, the designation is often regarded as an honor, and spoken of as an award or prize, simply based on many previous selections of admirable people.[7] However, Time magazine points out that controversial figures such as Adolf Hitler (1938), Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942), Nikita Khrushchev (1957) and Ayatollah Khomeini (1979) have also been granted the title for their impacts.
(http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2019712_2019694_2019586,00.html

So it should be no surprise that controversial figures in NS would be on the Power20.
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Postby Wayneactia » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:50 am

Pierconium wrote:Unlike some on this list, I don’t do the things I do for attention or accolades.


Or the applause.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:17 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:I'm reasonably certain TIME would have removed Hitler if they were aware of what he had/was/would do, but otherwise you're not saying anything I'm not.

Despite the magazine's frequent statements to the contrary, the designation is often regarded as an honor, and spoken of as an award or prize, simply based on many previous selections of admirable people.[7] However, Time magazine points out that controversial figures such as Adolf Hitler (1938), Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942), Nikita Khrushchev (1957) and Ayatollah Khomeini (1979) have also been granted the title for their impacts.
(http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2019712_2019694_2019586,00.html

So it should be no surprise that controversial figures in NS would be on the Power20.

I'm not surprised at all, not sure why there'd be implication that I would be.
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Escade
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Postby Escade » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:20 pm

I'm not sure where the tangent is going but this was a cool idea and congratulations to Xoriet and Timbro <3

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Aclion
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Postby Aclion » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:30 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Man of the Year is the most influential; not necessarily the best.

I'm reasonably certain TIME would have removed Hitler if they were aware of what he had/was/would do, but otherwise you're not saying anything I'm not.

Nah it's all about influence. Trump was man of the year and time thinks he's Worse Then Hiltertm. They would however, have not been so glowing Hilter had they known what they were praising would soon be recognized as the the most evil ideological in history.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:23 pm

Elegarth wrote:Kudos Xoriet! Shouldering that all on your own!! You are just awesome, girl!

Yes, this in tongue in cheek. And yes, she knows it is. And I bet is funny for both of us, if for no one else.

I do think Ivan should have made it into the list. But at least no one was crazy enough to put ME on it lmao :D
Probably by saying that you might find yourself on the next one.

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Postby King HEM » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:12 am

The Gilded Star wrote:
Xoriet wrote:^ Got a bit shafted by this one since the worst of the APC stuff was largely handled by Ivan and he was behind or supported some major region changes.

I tried to avoid commenting on mine overall.


Now that you mention it, I am a little surprised that Ivan didn't make the list.


A little late, but I actually did argue for putting Ivan on the list. I got pushback from those who saw Xoriet as the true influence behind the throne, with Ivan just being the PR frontman.
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Armaros
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Armaros » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:38 am

King HEM wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:
Now that you mention it, I am a little surprised that Ivan didn't make the list.


A little late, but I actually did argue for putting Ivan on the list. I got pushback from those who saw Xoriet as the true influence behind the throne, with Ivan just being the PR frontman.

That is rather ridiculous to me, seeing as Ivan is Consul and I feel like Ivan’s influence is much more visible in the NPO’s current policies and course of action, rather then Xoriet. It is peculiar not to see him on there as well as some people’s presence on the list.

That said, while I don’t personally agree with the list nor truly care, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it is amusing to read, and I thank NSToday for putting this together. :)
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:18 pm

I don’t view Xoriet as the power behind the throne, but she’s unquestionably a major PR figure for the NPO, and is widely regarded as the most genuine and reliable of the Senators level. Ivan’s almost robotic demeanor, and generally humorless nature when it comes to his role in the NPO, makes him a less approachable seeming fellow. In addition, Xoriet’s overall community influence is far more present than Ivan’s, who’s generally limited to the NPO sphere.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:03 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:I don’t view Xoriet as the power behind the throne, but she’s unquestionably a major PR figure for the NPO, and is widely regarded as the most genuine and reliable of the Senators level. Ivan’s almost robotic demeanor, and generally humorless nature when it comes to his role in the NPO, makes him a less approachable seeming fellow. In addition, Xoriet’s overall community influence is far more present than Ivan’s, who’s generally limited to the NPO sphere.

This, in a nutshell. Ivan is unquestionably influential within the NPO, but I wouldn't say he's that influential beyond it, for the reasons Tim articulated.
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Postby Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:22 pm

I made the front page news :bow:
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