The Army of Freedom

[LiberNovusAmericae]

That is old, and it might have been a joke.

...and that would be an arguement to tolerate it? That it's old means it's okay? Even if it was a "joke", why in hell didn't someone do something about it? And there is more.

I never said it was OK, I'm saying the information is probably out of date. If you want coherent information on what was going on, then speak with the government officials.

[Honeydewistania]

...and that would be an arguement to tolerate it? That it's old means it's okay? Even if it was a "joke", why in hell didn't someone do something about it? And there is more.

I never said it was OK, I'm saying the information is probably out of date. If you want coherent information on what was going on, then speak with the government officials.

The same government officials who say the N-word.

[The Conservative Army]

We get it. Everyone who is not a commie like you is a fascist.

Ah, you again. So nice to see you accuse everyone who is leftist of being a commie. Still haven't figured out what a commie is eh?

Also, for all who don't remember, this is the region that was attempted to be libbed. For homophobia and racism. And guess what? I still have the evidence for that. I don't believe you're fascist, but you're definitely bad.

UM, you should definitely take a look at the evidence: are you sure you want to work with people like these?

EDIT: As I was saying, a region where they tolerate shit like this.

We would like to state that nobody in our organization is ’definitrly bad’. The Army of Freedom will not bother to take action against members who have since changed since then. We stand by our officers and soldiers full-fledgedly, though it is important to contact us if you have evidence of continued behavior and racism, something we do not stand for or support.

May you define ‘tolerate’ though? The user has been permanently banned months ago you are referring to from your screenshot. Funny thing actually, he tried to send a few telegrams to some of our government members in the FCN the other day, acting as if he did nothing wrong; No apology either. I think you will be pleased to learn that our region gave him the middle finger and told him to get lost in response.

[Armaros]

May you define ‘tolerate’ though? The user has been permanently banned months ago you are referring to from your screenshot. Funny thing actually, he tried to send a few telegrams to some of our government members in the FCN the other day, acting as if he did nothing wrong; No apology either. I think you will be pleased to learn that our region gave him the middle finger and told him to get lost in response.

So he's been banned? Good. Now, about your founder, is he banned too?

[Of crazed]

bash the fash

[The Conservative Army]

May you define ‘tolerate’ though? The user has been permanently banned months ago you are referring to from your screenshot. Funny thing actually, he tried to send a few telegrams to some of our government members in the FCN the other day, acting as if he did nothing wrong; No apology either. I think you will be pleased to learn that our region gave him the middle finger and told him to get lost in response.

So he's been banned? Good. Now, about your founder, is he banned too?

No, our Secretary of War is not banned, as he has since expressed regret and apologized on several occasions (Unlike San Carlos Islands), and has since taken a stance against racism and other forms of hate. He has since changed and has moved away from his admittedly shameful and disgusting ways, and the Army of Freedom and our main region has rooted out such activities.

Of course, if you have any ongoing concerns about possible continued racist activity in the Army of Freedom, feel free to send me a telegram.

bash the fash

That was certainly one of our objectives in our recent raid in Asnaria, correct. All authoritarian regions that advocate for communism, fascism, or other similar ideologies are enemies of Democracy and Freedom.

[United Massachusetts]

OK, I'm going to take a moment here to hash out a full reply.

I take these issues seriously, as I did during the liberation. I have no interest in working with fascists, racists, or homophobes, and I will gladly change my opinion on a matter if presented with the proper evidence. I no longer defend KAISERREICH, for example, nor has our region really had any interaction with them since I've made that shift. And I did so upon being presented the full evidence -- I acknowledged I was wrong, and acted to change my stance. So, when the liberation came up, I had a hard look at the evidence, and had a series of talks with people from both in the region and out.

Right to Life has generally come to one, consistent conclusion -- that the FCN was infiltrated by a group of horrible people, racists and fascists among them. Their behaviour was most prevalent in the spam channels, that they turned into their den that few outside their group were tremendously involved in. These fascists then took control of the regional Senate and used said Senate to pass "free speech" laws. Of course, these laws did not actually protect free speech; rather, they protected and promoted hate speech, letting it proliferate. Ultimately, this resulted in an unfortunate culture where this language was the norm. It is our belief that several minors were indoctrinated in the usage of this speech and not only normalized to it, but were most likely pressured into using it. Of course, this does not for one second exonerate the minors involved in using horrendous language. It does, however, leave open the possibility for reform.

Though we wish we were aware of this situation earlier, and accept the responsibility for this ignorance, when we were made aware of the extent of this behaviour, we considered it on the whole. By this point, most of the perpetrators had been ejected from the region, barring two, who again, we believe were more or less indoctrinated into this behaviour. New Waldensia, the de facto regional founder and a longtime friend of Right to Life (and himself praised for having the guts to stand up to the fascists in the FCN server) promised a series of substantive reforms designed to pull the region back into control. We chose to trust him to take control and reign in excessive behaviour, because we knew what the FCN was like before this invasion.

We believe that our analysis of the situation was proven largely correct, for several reasons:

1. The last time we've found Gagium saying the n-word in the FCN server, excluding quoting others and the like, was in July.
2. The regional flag has been changed away from the confederate flag put in place by the racist crew and replaced with what appears to look like a torch of liberty
3. The Discord appears to have been cleaned up significantly, in large part due to an act against hate speech passed by the Senate, and pushed by President New Waldensia, who we again note is a moderate conservative,
4. There has not been a joint FCN-KAISERREICH military operation since the liberation attempt, according to regional officials

We believe that the liberation attempt served as a proper wake-up call for the Federation to fix their ways, and were left in a prime situation to do so following the treason of the fascists. Though we are disappointed by the administrative blunders that led to the situation, we believe that the reforms enacted by New Waldensia have been largely successful in shaking off racism from the region. We should, if anything, praise regions that combat toxic and hateful cultures, rather than hold continued grudges against them. Until further evidence comes up suggesting that FCN has not in fact changed its ways, Right to Life will continue to cooperate with them -- and we hope that every region infiltrated by racism will take the path that New Waldensia and others did, and deal with it head-on. It is a long road to reconciliation, and we've had serious talks with FCN officials about preventing this behaviour in the future. We asked for specific reforms. We watch their Discord. In short, we will continue to monitor their progress on the matter.

In the meantime, yes, we will cooperate with the Federation, particularly on anti-fascist operations. We're more than slightly confused that Right to Life is being condemned for an anti-fascist operation, particularly when said operations help to promote a desired culture in the FCN -- one of anti-fascist conservatism. Feel free to contact me if you need more clarification.

United Massachusetts
Senator, Right to Life

EDIT: On a more practical note, we're still looking for pilers in Asnaria if anyone wants to help.

[North Soviet EastAsia]

OK, I'm going to take a moment here to hash out a full reply.

I take these issues seriously, as I did during the liberation. I have no interest in working with fascists, racists, or homophobes, and I will gladly change my opinion on a matter if presented with the proper evidence. I no longer defend KAISERREICH, for example, nor has our region really had any interaction with them since I've made that shift. And I did so upon being presented the full evidence -- I acknowledged I was wrong, and acted to change my stance. So, when the liberation came up, I had a hard look at the evidence, and had a series of talks with people from both in the region and out.

Right to Life has generally come to one, consistent conclusion -- that the FCN was infiltrated by a group of horrible people, racists and fascists among them. Their behaviour was most prevalent in the spam channels, that they turned into their den that few outside their group were tremendously involved in. These fascists then took control of the regional Senate and used said Senate to pass "free speech" laws. Of course, these laws did not actually protect free speech; rather, they protected and promoted hate speech, letting it proliferate. Ultimately, this resulted in an unfortunate culture where this language was the norm. It is our belief that several minors were indoctrinated in the usage of this speech and not only normalized to it, but were most likely pressured into using it. Of course, this does not for one second exonerate the minors involved in using horrendous language. It does, however, leave open the possibility for reform.

Though we wish we were aware of this situation earlier, and accept the responsibility for this ignorance, when we were made aware of the extent of this behaviour, we considered it on the whole. By this point, most of the perpetrators had been ejected from the region, barring two, who again, we believe were more or less indoctrinated into this behaviour. New Waldensia, the de facto regional founder and a longtime friend of Right to Life (and himself praised for having the guts to stand up to the fascists in the FCN server) promised a series of substantive reforms designed to pull the region back into control. We chose to trust him to take control and reign in excessive behaviour, because we knew what the FCN was like before this invasion.

We believe that our analysis of the situation was proven largely correct, for several reasons:

1. The last time we've found Gagium saying the n-word in the FCN server, excluding quoting others and the like, was in July.
2. The regional flag has been changed away from the confederate flag put in place by the racist crew and replaced with what appears to look like a torch of liberty
3. The Discord appears to have been cleaned up significantly, in large part due to an act against hate speech passed by the Senate, and pushed by President New Waldensia, who we again note is a moderate conservative,
4. There has not been a joint FCN-KAISERREICH military operation since the liberation attempt, according to regional officials

We believe that the liberation attempt served as a proper wake-up call for the Federation to fix their ways, and were left in a prime situation to do so following the treason of the fascists. Though we are disappointed by the administrative blunders that led to the situation, we believe that the reforms enacted by New Waldensia have been largely successful in shaking off racism from the region. We should, if anything, praise regions that combat toxic and hateful cultures, rather than hold continued grudges against them. Until further evidence comes up suggesting that FCN has not in fact changed its ways, Right to Life will continue to cooperate with them -- and we hope that every region infiltrated by racism will take the path that New Waldensia and others did, and deal with it head-on. It is a long road to reconciliation, and we've had serious talks with FCN officials about preventing this behaviour in the future. We asked for specific reforms. We watch their Discord. In short, we will continue to monitor their progress on the matter.

In the meantime, yes, we will cooperate with the Federation, particularly on anti-fascist operations. We're more than slightly confused that Right to Life is being condemned for an anti-fascist operation, particularly when said operations help to promote a desired culture in the FCN -- one of anti-fascist conservatism. Feel free to contact me if you need more clarification.

United Massachusetts
Senator, Right to Life

EDIT: On a more practical note, we're still looking for pilers in Asnaria if anyone wants to help.

Right. So now 'Gagium hasn't increased his 880+ N-word count since July, he's off the hook'. Saying the N-word once is bad enough. The FCN's Army of Freedom has raided leftist regions. They've annexed Land of Marxism, from which I knew before wasn't even hard-left gulag communist. (and even then, it should not warrant a raid)

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Right. So now 'Gagium hasn't increased his 880+ N-word count since July, he's off the hook'. Saying the N-word once is bad enough. The FCN's Army of Freedom has raided leftist regions. They've annexed Land of Marxism, from which I knew before wasn't even hard-left gulag communist. (and even then, it should not warrant a raid)

Emphasis mine. Because god forbid we attack authoritarian communist regions as well, because they're the "right" kind of authoritarianism.

[United Massachusetts]

We never said Gagium was off the hook. We've been watching him and have pretty severely reprimanded him. We're also willing to give him a chance to correct his behaviour, as he has appeared willing to do.

[Fauxia]

OK, I'm going to take a moment here to hash out a full reply.

I take these issues seriously, as I did during the liberation. I have no interest in working with fascists, racists, or homophobes, and I will gladly change my opinion on a matter if presented with the proper evidence. I no longer defend KAISERREICH, for example, nor has our region really had any interaction with them since I've made that shift. And I did so upon being presented the full evidence -- I acknowledged I was wrong, and acted to change my stance. So, when the liberation came up, I had a hard look at the evidence, and had a series of talks with people from both in the region and out.

Right to Life has generally come to one, consistent conclusion -- that the FCN was infiltrated by a group of horrible people, racists and fascists among them. Their behaviour was most prevalent in the spam channels, that they turned into their den that few outside their group were tremendously involved in. These fascists then took control of the regional Senate and used said Senate to pass "free speech" laws. Of course, these laws did not actually protect free speech; rather, they protected and promoted hate speech, letting it proliferate. Ultimately, this resulted in an unfortunate culture where this language was the norm. It is our belief that several minors were indoctrinated in the usage of this speech and not only normalized to it, but were most likely pressured into using it. Of course, this does not for one second exonerate the minors involved in using horrendous language. It does, however, leave open the possibility for reform.

Though we wish we were aware of this situation earlier, and accept the responsibility for this ignorance, when we were made aware of the extent of this behaviour, we considered it on the whole. By this point, most of the perpetrators had been ejected from the region, barring two, who again, we believe were more or less indoctrinated into this behaviour. New Waldensia, the de facto regional founder and a longtime friend of Right to Life (and himself praised for having the guts to stand up to the fascists in the FCN server) promised a series of substantive reforms designed to pull the region back into control. We chose to trust him to take control and reign in excessive behaviour, because we knew what the FCN was like before this invasion.

We believe that our analysis of the situation was proven largely correct, for several reasons:

1. The last time we've found Gagium saying the n-word in the FCN server, excluding quoting others and the like, was in July.
2. The regional flag has been changed away from the confederate flag put in place by the racist crew and replaced with what appears to look like a torch of liberty
3. The Discord appears to have been cleaned up significantly, in large part due to an act against hate speech passed by the Senate, and pushed by President New Waldensia, who we again note is a moderate conservative,
4. There has not been a joint FCN-KAISERREICH military operation since the liberation attempt, according to regional officials

We believe that the liberation attempt served as a proper wake-up call for the Federation to fix their ways, and were left in a prime situation to do so following the treason of the fascists. Though we are disappointed by the administrative blunders that led to the situation, we believe that the reforms enacted by New Waldensia have been largely successful in shaking off racism from the region. We should, if anything, praise regions that combat toxic and hateful cultures, rather than hold continued grudges against them. Until further evidence comes up suggesting that FCN has not in fact changed its ways, Right to Life will continue to cooperate with them -- and we hope that every region infiltrated by racism will take the path that New Waldensia and others did, and deal with it head-on. It is a long road to reconciliation, and we've had serious talks with FCN officials about preventing this behaviour in the future. We asked for specific reforms. We watch their Discord. In short, we will continue to monitor their progress on the matter.

In the meantime, yes, we will cooperate with the Federation, particularly on anti-fascist operations. We're more than slightly confused that Right to Life is being condemned for an anti-fascist operation, particularly when said operations help to promote a desired culture in the FCN -- one of anti-fascist conservatism. Feel free to contact me if you need more clarification.

United Massachusetts
Senator, Right to Life

EDIT: On a more practical note, we're still looking for pilers in Asnaria if anyone wants to help.

The FCN's Army of Freedom has raided leftist regions. They've annexed Land of Marxism, from which I knew before wasn't even hard-left gulag communist. (and even then, it should not warrant a raid)

Well sound the alarm, traditional raider regions are all fascists because they raid leftist regions! And not just authoritarian leftist regions too!

[Aclion]

The left needs to learn that the world isn't divided into fascists and their left wing opponents.

[Fauxia]

The left needs to learn that the world isn't divided into fascists and their left wing opponents.

Only a fascist could say such a thing.

[Yokiria]

The left needs to learn that the world isn't divided into fascists and their left wing opponents.

You need to learn that statements like that belong in General.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

The left needs to learn that the world isn't divided into fascists and their left wing opponents.

You need to learn that statements like that belong in General.

Considering the fact that there are some people who are accusing the region that I reside in as being "fascist", I think that statement has some room here at this time.

[United Massachusetts]

The left needs to learn that the world isn't divided into fascists and their left wing opponents.

You need to learn that statements like that belong in General.

The statement is perfectly fine where it is; I think it's clear that in this context, "left" refers specifically to militant leftist groups.

[The Conservative Army]

Army of Freedom
1-08-19 Update

With elections in the Federation of Conservative Nations quickly approaching, the future of the Army of Freedom leadership remains uncertain. Neither the Sons of Adam nor the Conservative Party have clearly specified a Secretary of War candidate. Nationalist Party Presidential candidate Creeperopolis has initially offered a second term to Gagium, who has turned down the offer. The current confirmed options for appointment are Doge Republics and Furbish Islands.

Meanwhile, the Army of Freedom is preparing for the end to its current military operation, and plans for further operations up until leadership changes are being discussed. The AoF’s discord bot has also seen renovations recently, and plans to add more features to the server’s bot which could drastically change the server itself are being planned by developer Furbish Islands.

Telegram The Conservative Army for inquiries or Army of Freedom-related matters.

[United Massachusetts]

The operation is Asnaria is complete.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=asnaria

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I never said it was OK, I'm saying the information is probably out of date. If you want coherent information on what was going on, then speak with the government officials.

The same government officials who say the N-word.

Not anymore they don't. Also, let me just pretend that you aren't a poster that is cowering behind a puppet.

Edit:

The operation is Asnaria is complete.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=asnaria

Glad to see it was a success.

[United Massachusetts]

The same government officials who say the N-word.

Not anymore they don't. Also, let me just pretend that you aren't a poster that is cowering behind a puppet.

They aren't cowering behind a puppet. I can confirm as much

[Blood Wine]

Such a fun bunch

[The Conservative Army]

Army of Freedom
1-19-19 Update

Elections in the Federation of Conservative Nations have ended, leading to President Creeperopolis's election by a wide margin and leadership changes within the Army of Freedom. Doge Republics has been appointed by the new Commander in Chief as the region's Secretary of War, being confirmed unanimously by the FCN's senate. Rivine was appointed to the office of Deputy Secretary of War yesterday.

The new Army of Freedom leadership boasts early activity after structural changes, with the regions of United Peoples Union and The Righteous Cult of Socalism being swiftly refounded by the Deputy Secretary. President Creeperopolis has also announced several work-in-progress factbook changes and new rank insignia.

The new President campaigned on improving military ties with the Federation's allies and friends, as well as introducing several treaties with our allies to strengthen relations and interregional cooperation in the long term.

Telegram The Conservative Army for inquiries or Army of Freedom-related matters.

[Drop Your Pants]

Refounding 2 CTE regions isn't exactly something to boast about. You're good at raiding a target but you need to get better at holding them. Or don't