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Anderitean Essays | An Apology & Opinion on NPO

Postby Anderite » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:18 pm

Anderitean Essays

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An Apology

Postby Anderite » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:18 pm

Greetings, NSers:

I’m Anderite. I’d like to take this opportunity to apologize for the behaviors that I’ve done over the course of my NS career, and also release a Gameplay essay of mine that I’ve written since my recent return.

I’ve been retired from NationStates for just over 3 months. Over my months-long retirement, I’ve looked back on all of my actions, and I have come to the realization of the many immature behaviors that I have done, the many hurtful words I had carelessly flung around, and the many players I have hurt. For this, I’m sorry. I’m sorry to the players, to the Discords I had spammed, and to the communities who I had disrupted. I was a spammy shithead.

With my return, I intend be better than my old self - to truly add to the community, to be your friend when life is low, to bring a light when it’s dark, and above all, redeem myself in your eyes. I understand that my reputation will always be tainted for some, but I can guarantee that I will work my hardest to erase my negative perception. Never again will I regress to the levels I was at before.

Finally, I ask for your forgiveness. I know I won’t be able to start from a clean slate, and for some I’ve already used up my chances, but I’d like to lift any burden I’d had on you off your shoulders and be on talking terms.

Thank you for listening.
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Opinion on NPO

Postby Anderite » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:19 pm

Having recently come back to NationStates, I’ve noticed the peculiar GCR drama that has been going on, and spent my entire afternoon reading up about it. After thoroughly going through the events so far, here is my opinion essay on everything, and a (probably false) prediction of the future.

The New Pacific Order clearly has a long and storied history, and the events that have been occurring since the Order declared war against The Black Hawks on November 20th, the many declarations of war against the Order in the weeks afterwards, and the Order’s subsequent withdrawal of their declaration of war on December 17th will only add to it. The real revelation are the many operations that the NPO had carried out against multiple Game-Created Regions, such as in Lazarus, Osiris, and the West Pacific.

A select group of players within the region steadily grew their ranks with their respective regions, and when their isolated infiltration operations were discovered, the Senate did not do anything about it, only choosing to continue the operations. Furthermore, it was discovered that Pergamon and Feux were in contact with Attero and Block and had used them for their own purposes. What appears to have been the case were a rampant bunch of players running about, utilizing their position to fulfill what they believed was the true goal of Pacifica: the conquering of every Game-Created Region and thus total domination over NationStates. However, this should be considered more of a temporary coup rather than a reflection of the New Pacific Order as a whole, by the group I shall subsequently name as The Empire of NPO. Although these players appeared to have been working for the NPO, they actually were exploiting their position and their power to fulfill their own thirst for power - and that proves to be most disturbing.

If this select group of players had for some strange reason all collected in the NPO, does this mean that the NPO’s environment had nurtured these players to coup? I would argue no. Instead, I’d point to the long history of other, unregulated coupers that the NPO has had over the last few years, who all believed that sacrificing whatever they could for the Order, including months of infiltration in GCRs, would allow them power, and I daresay it, a fast-track to the Emperor’s throne. These players choose to infiltrate and conduct undercover operations not as a mass state-controlled espionage agency, but rather as an individually-motivated belief that doing so would lead them to more power, which has been proven time and time again to be wrong, and only hurt the public relations of the Pacific. However, as high-ranking officials of the Pacific, the general public tends to conflate the actions of these individually-motivated operations with the government as a whole, even though the secrecy that these would-be coupers maintain of their own operations remains high as they suspect everyone else of trying to get at the Emperor’s throne.

Given that such coupers are individually motivated, as East Durthang has officially declared infiltration/espionage outlawed in the Pacific, it is to be expected for future would-be coupers to go elsewhere to attempt to serve a “greater cause,” and of the various GCRs in their current state, none of them look more unstable nor more suspicious than the Queen of the East: the East Pacific. Considering Lone Wolves United’s former dominance over Lazarus in its Khanate, it is only natural to turn towards Fedele, otherwise known as Scardino, as another potential couper. Adding to that an apparent “scandal” with the ban of Yuno along with her colleagues from the region, and unnatural diplomatic movements by TEP such as withdrawing their embassy from XKI, a known enemy of LWU, it only makes sense that TEP is at the greatest risk of a coup d'etat, and that more drama may be coming up soon.

Finally, by their very nature, individually-motivated coupers are lone wolves. With the Pacific’s complete 180 regarding infiltration, it’s only a matter of time before a similar select group of players piles up somewhere and begins another decade of public relations disaster, chaos, and agony - likely in a new Feeder Khanate.
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Postby Saint Block » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:58 pm

With that said, I would advise TEP that it would behoove them to keep their eye on TIm.

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That post is fraudulent

Postby Luvenike » Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:35 pm

This is Vacatio's new account. It should be said that I never have vaguely stated nor implied any of that post nor did I wish for it to be written. Vuon Vuori/Lanav wrote it for reasons which have not been disclosed to me. So if you would fuck off and quit impersonating me, that would just be fantastic.

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Postby Queen Yuno » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:02 pm

lol wtf

then again, I suspected that wasn't your writing style. You're not the type to sit still and write long essays.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:23 pm

Luvenike wrote:This is Vacatio's new account. It should be said that I never have vaguely stated nor implied any of that post nor did I wish for it to be written. Vuon Vuori/Lanav wrote it for reasons which have not been disclosed to me. So if you would fuck off and quit impersonating me, that would just be fantastic.

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Malicious impersonation should be reported to moderation via the Getting Help page. Just to make sure I have this straight, you are claiming that the OP is impersonating your old account?
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Postby Killer Kitty » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:13 pm

Anderite wrote:Considering Lone Wolves United’s former dominance over Lazarus in its Khanate, it is only natural to turn towards Fedele, otherwise known as Scardino, as another potential couper. Adding to that an apparent “scandal” with the ban of Yuno along with her colleagues from the region, and unnatural diplomatic movements by TEP such as withdrawing their embassy from XKI, a known enemy of LWU, it only makes sense that TEP is at the greatest risk of a coup d'etat, and that more drama may be coming up soon.

Finally, by their very nature, individually-motivated coupers are lone wolves. With the Pacific’s complete 180 regarding infiltration, it’s only a matter of time before a similar select group of players piles up somewhere and begins another decade of public relations disaster, chaos, and agony - likely in a new Feeder Khanate.


So let me get this right. NPO isn't the real threat, it's LWU and the banning of Yuno wasn't really a TEP community decision but rather a LWU plot to take over TEP.

Oh, and the original poster is allegedly La Navasse, who is currently camped out in St Abbaddon helping the NPO with their occupation there.

Didn't NPO already try this "Cry Wolf" tactic in Lazarus? Come up with a new strategy already.
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Postby La Navasse » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:37 am

This is the funniest thing I´ve seen in a long time - someone allegedly claiming I took their nations? What drama. :rofl:

I´m assuming this is a poorly-done attempt to slander me after I removed Yuno from the administration of the MLNM Card Exchange, trying to use a proxy to try and get back. Whatever.
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Postby Pierconium » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:57 am

Killer Kitty wrote:
Anderite wrote:Considering Lone Wolves United’s former dominance over Lazarus in its Khanate, it is only natural to turn towards Fedele, otherwise known as Scardino, as another potential couper. Adding to that an apparent “scandal” with the ban of Yuno along with her colleagues from the region, and unnatural diplomatic movements by TEP such as withdrawing their embassy from XKI, a known enemy of LWU, it only makes sense that TEP is at the greatest risk of a coup d'etat, and that more drama may be coming up soon.

Finally, by their very nature, individually-motivated coupers are lone wolves. With the Pacific’s complete 180 regarding infiltration, it’s only a matter of time before a similar select group of players piles up somewhere and begins another decade of public relations disaster, chaos, and agony - likely in a new Feeder Khanate.


So let me get this right. NPO isn't the real threat, it's LWU and the banning of Yuno wasn't really a TEP community decision but rather a LWU plot to take over TEP.

Oh, and the original poster is allegedly La Navasse, who is currently camped out in St Abbaddon helping the NPO with their occupation there.

Didn't NPO already try this "Cry Wolf" tactic in Lazarus? Come up with a new strategy already.

The views expressed in the OP do not constitute NPO official policy. You know this. We don’t actually need to have a ‘new strategy’. The opposition has thus far provided no strategy that needs to be countered.
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Postby Miporin » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:57 am

La Navasse wrote:This is the funniest thing I´ve seen in a long time - someone allegedly claiming I took their nations? What drama. :rofl:

I´m assuming this is a poorly-done attempt to slander me after I removed Yuno from the administration of the MLNM Card Exchange, trying to use a proxy to try and get back. Whatever.

Given the writing style far more closely resembles your own than anything vacatio has ever put out, and the fact that your history leads much of GP to deride anything you touch, it's not outside the bounds of plausibility that hiding behind the identity of literally anyone else would be preferable. Isn't that why you switched nations about once a week a while back? :roll:

And that's not even getting into the fact that the topic title had an identical format to your own essay thread, before the allegation even got brought up. Though I guess laughing everything off as fake news *is* a time-tested NPO tactic.
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Postby Yokiria » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:41 pm

For those that didn't see, moderation has already cleared La Navasse of impersonation.

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It would seem that La Navasse wrote an essay claiming to be the player Vacatio. Vacatio then arrived in the theead with a new nation, stating that the essay was an impersonation by the aforementioned La Navasse.

Looks like rulebreaking from La Navasse, bosses.

Let's just say that from the backend, it looks rather a lot more like something else.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:43 pm

Miporin wrote:
La Navasse wrote:This is the funniest thing I´ve seen in a long time - someone allegedly claiming I took their nations? What drama. :rofl:

I´m assuming this is a poorly-done attempt to slander me after I removed Yuno from the administration of the MLNM Card Exchange, trying to use a proxy to try and get back. Whatever.

Given the writing style far more closely resembles your own than anything vacatio has ever put out, and the fact that your history leads much of GP to deride anything you touch, it's not outside the bounds of plausibility that hiding behind the identity of literally anyone else would be preferable. Isn't that why you switched nations about once a week a while back? :roll:

And that's not even getting into the fact that the topic title had an identical format to your own essay thread, before the allegation even got brought up. Though I guess laughing everything off as fake news *is* a time-tested NPO tactic.


To be fair, La Navasse may have a point here. I reported the thread, and the mod response here seems to be pretty straight up.

"Let's just say that from the backend, it looks rather a lot more like something else."

So maybe some sketchy shit is going down there, but that reply definitely implies something besides La Navasse maliciously impersonating Vacatio.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:01 pm

Not a situation (at this point in time anyway) where I can specifically out the puppetmaster, though I can confirm that Vacatio is not presently the owner of Anderite and that Vacatio could well have grounds to file a report for impersonation via GHR. I've had a word with the puppetmaster recommending rather strongly that they stop claiming to be the previous owner of that account. It's a murky grey area insofar as malicious impersonation goes, and another fine example of why moderation's general response to account sharing is "Plz no, don't."
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Postby Kurnugia » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:37 pm

La Navasse wrote:This is the funniest thing I´ve seen in a long time - someone allegedly claiming I took their nations? What drama. :rofl:

I´m assuming this is a poorly-done attempt to slander me after I removed Yuno from the administration of the MLNM Card Exchange, trying to use a proxy to try and get back. Whatever.

This implies you have a reputation that we can tarnish :blush:
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Postby Queen Yuno » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:09 pm

La Navasse wrote:This is the funniest thing I´ve seen in a long time - someone allegedly claiming I took their nations? What drama. :rofl:

I´m assuming this is a poorly-done attempt to slander me after I removed Yuno from the administration of the MLNM Card Exchange, trying to use a proxy to try and get back. Whatever.


This cannot be true. Only You, Doigt, Kannap and myself know about the details about how you went about doing that. I didn't tell others, Doigt's not defending me but fully neutral and was merely curious, and Kannap seems to spend ALL his time 24/7 farming Legendary cards (I don't see him writing essays or care.) And I myself told you (and them) that I couldn't care less, my only complaint was that you treated me rudely when I held your server for 8 months during your retirement and intended to return it to you when you came back, and that was the end of it, case closed. Oh and one more person if we're counting Sopo, Sopo knows about this now since he saw the chat history since you admin'd him afterwards. Who has time for this small-scale "drama"? Or getting revenge over a tiny "skirmish" known only to 4 people that I forgot about. I doubt any of these people leaked. Unless Vacatio was told what happened (and I doubt he's in the MLNM server or has incentive for "yuno"-related stuff.) The POINT IS: I have nothing to do with this, and this thing you speak of is known between an amount of people less than the fingers countable on one hand. Something else is probably going on. I only chimed in here before we start pointing fingers at a small # of people. (by the way if you think I am using this "proxy", I did not. This "essay" was posted before you removed me, plus I couldn't care less about getting back at someone for demoting me. )
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Postby La Navasse » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:20 am

Queen YUNo wrote:
La Navasse wrote:This is the funniest thing I´ve seen in a long time - someone allegedly claiming I took their nations? What drama. :rofl:

I´m assuming this is a poorly-done attempt to slander me after I removed Yuno from the administration of the MLNM Card Exchange, trying to use a proxy to try and get back. Whatever.


This cannot be true. Only You, Doigt, Kannap and myself know about the details about how you went about doing that. I didn't tell others, Doigt's not defending me but fully neutral and was merely curious, and Kannap seems to spend ALL his time 24/7 farming Legendary cards (I don't see him writing essays or care.) And I myself told you (and them) that I couldn't care less, my only complaint was that you treated me rudely when I held your server for 8 months during your retirement and intended to return it to you when you came back, and that was the end of it, case closed. Oh and one more person if we're counting Sopo, Sopo knows about this now since he saw the chat history since you admin'd him afterwards. Who has time for this small-scale "drama"? Or getting revenge over a tiny "skirmish" known only to 4 people that I forgot about. I doubt any of these people leaked. Unless Vacatio was told what happened (and I doubt he's in the MLNM server or has incentive for "yuno"-related stuff.) The POINT IS: I have nothing to do with this, and this thing you speak of is known between an amount of people less than the fingers countable on one hand. Something else is probably going on. I only chimed in here before we start pointing fingers at a small # of people. (by the way if you think I am using this "proxy", I did not. This "essay" was posted before you removed me, plus I couldn't care less about getting back at someone for demoting me. )

Sure, of course you haven't been vengeful. I definitely did communicate to you several times on removing you from Admin before I took action, and Vacatio was formerly an Admin in the server who actively communicated with you when MLNM began at April Fool's. Plus, the server had 70+ members at its first peak, and given your recent scandal, I suspect you wished to use your Admin position to rehabilitate your image once Cards kicked off again. Smearing me with this blacklisted identity would be your plan if you were removed as an attempt to dethrone me from the Admin position via a public relations disaster. It's all too obvious, and it simply benefits you too much.

I'm quite confident that you're behind Anderite, and thus if you post again, I will post all of the logs from the drama that occurred. Otherwise: convince me.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:47 am

La Navasse wrote:I'm quite confident that you're behind Anderite, and thus if you post again, I will post all of the logs from the drama that occurred. Otherwise: convince me.

We really need to convince admin to give us a popcorn smiley. Just for comments like this.
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Postby Kurnugia » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:05 pm

La Navasse wrote:I'm quite confident that you're behind Anderite, and thus if you post again, I will post all of the logs from the drama that occurred. Otherwise: convince me.

Mai oh mai. Threatening to leak... See, we really don't need to sabotage your reputation. You are quite good at it. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Postby Queen Yuno » Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:41 pm

*rolls eyes*
I don't know who this guy is, so if he posts again, that's OUTSIDE OF MY CONTROL. That's not me!
La Navasse wrote: Sure, of course you haven't been vengeful. I definitely did communicate to you several times on removing you from Admin before I took action, and Vacatio was formerly an Admin in the server who actively communicated with you when MLNM began at April Fool's. Plus, the server had 70+ members at its first peak, and given your recent scandal, I suspect you wished to use your Admin position to rehabilitate your image once Cards kicked off again. Smearing me with this blacklisted identity would be your plan if you were removed as an attempt to dethrone me from the Admin position via a public relations disaster. It's all too obvious, and it simply benefits you too much.

I'm quite confident that you're behind Anderite, and thus if you post again, I will post all of the logs from the drama that occurred. Otherwise: convince me.

What a load of bullshit. I was holding server ownership for you for the duration of your retirement for the last 8 months out of pure kindness and nothing else. When you came back (you just returned very recently,) after some discussion (of which you never indicated your plans to remove me,) I suggested we to share server ownership on a shared discord account (to reduce any potential attention on me- now if what you fabricated is true about me using the Cards server as a Public Relations boost to myself, why would I suggest out of the blue that we should make it so that I'm not the server owner but share it on a shared account?) and you said yes. I gave you the password/email to the account, you logged into the account and transferred ownership to your main account and removed my admin and admin'd Sopo. WTF? (((OOC-meta-extreme: Nice trick, just like a real politician e.e)))
(What was the point of doing all this? You could have told me from the start that you planned to do this, and I would have just given you the server and left, not waste my time for 30 minutes.)
Then you disabled channel viewing (of this entire incident,) and claimed to have deleted all the chat history when in reality you just hid the channel history to yourself. Luckily I managed to save some logs too so if you leak from me I will counter leak. So don't threaten to dump logs here, the story's out in the open now.
And prior to this I didn't know you were planning on stripping my admin permissions, since you never "communicated it to me." You quite literally told me (after the fact) that you didn't tell me because you didn't trust me. When I told you I'd have appreciated being told in the beginning.
So there, this is the last I am posting here. You can figure out your problems by yourself.
(Yes what a shocker you trusted me to hold your server since April, then you quit and on the day you return to NS, I invite you straight back to your server and admin you immediately, and mere weeks later you turn on me like this, that's awfully nice. You probably forgot the server existed until I reminded you.) This is my last post in this thread 100%, good bye
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Postby The Tri State Area and Maine » Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:47 pm

What has happened in this thread.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:54 pm

As tempers are getting a bit heated, I can confirm that per Yuno's protest, Anderite is not Yuno's puppet.
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Yuno-500
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Founded: Sep 13, 2017
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Postby Yuno-500 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:23 pm

thanks reploid!
( I have a theory that if it's not La Nav behind the nation, maybe LaNav gave the password to a third person. This is what I was told:
[8:46 PM] Vacatio: Yeah. I was just looking at that. La Navasse controls the nation.
[8:46 PM] Vacatio: I gave it to him because I thought he would just use it for medial things...and he wouldn't just pretend to be me.
[8:48 PM] Vacatio: I had his nations under my control when he quit for a while ,and I didn't steal his identity because I'm not a prick. So I (apparently)foolishly trusted him to do the same.
[8:48 PM] Vacatio: And we all saw how that turned out
[8:49 PM] Yuno: But the mods posted that that's not La Nav behind the nation
[8:49 PM] Yuno: Weird ....
[8:50 PM] Vacatio: That's quite wierd since I don't know who else would have the passwords of all those nations.
[8:50 PM] Vacatio: He's the only person I gave them too
[8:51 PM] Yuno: That's strange
I will ask him
[8:52 PM] Vacatio: As soon as I posted that, he unfriended me and deleted every DM he sent to me from the last couple weeks.
)
I say just take everything by that puppet holder with a grain of salt since none of us know who he is. Regardless my involvement here is cleared ^^
Ty~
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Kaboomlandia
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:40 pm

Given that Navasse has given nations away in the past (Aimdar-Goomdar) that doesn’t seem too far-fetched.
In=character, Kaboomlandia is a World Assembly member and abides by its resolutions. If this nation isn't in the WA, it's for practical reasons.
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Kurnugia
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Founded: Feb 21, 2017
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Postby Kurnugia » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:21 pm

See LN, we really don't need to do anything. :p

This is so sad can we get 50 likes?
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