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Postby Grater Tovakia » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:56 am

Honeydewistania wrote:I have a question: Now that you're withdrawing from Antifa, what are you going to do regards to anti-fascism?



Do what every other region does... raid em if they pose a threat.
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Postby Malphe » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:20 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Why don't you ask these questions in Pacifica, since you're a resident here? Or are you just trying to cause trouble as usual?

There are plenty of regions we can work with. TNP springs to mind, for starters. Antifa is not absolutely vital to conducting anti-fascist operations.

The discussion is here. It'd be weird to suddenly show up on the RMB and ask "ey what we gonna do about antifa"

Also, TNP has worked with Antifa in the past (albeit not a member). And TNP would rather work with Antifa to bash fash than us, so rip

TNP has always done anti-fascist ops independently or with allies, consistent involvement with Antifa only started more recently. Also worth noting that we haven't done operations with Antifa for a while. Antifa is very useful for anti-fascism and I appreciate the work they do but it doesn't have a monopoly on the concept, and it never will.
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Postby Iskodra » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:21 am

Can I know why the Antifa is so bad? Like I never seen them

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Postby Cataluna » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:34 am

Iskodra wrote:Can I know why the Antifa is so bad? Like I never seen them

Don't worry. You'll see them at work the next time a fascist makes a fuckup and gets a founder nation banned.
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Postby The Seeker of Power » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:52 pm

Galiantus III wrote:-snip-

As I don't want to smear the wrong thread with off topic stuff, if you feel like elaborating or discussing your theory, Gal, stop by the embassy. I open the floor for this topic if you want
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Postby North Newlandishforth » Tue May 21, 2019 6:41 pm

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Statement from the Pacifica Democratic Union
On the Anti-Fascist Policy Created by Pacifica's Founder





By unanimous vote, with one Councillor absent, the Regional Council of Pacifica has decided to unpin and overturn the Anti-Fascist Policy created by our Founder.

The Pacifica Democratic Union continues to stand against fascism. We will continue to prevent fascists from residing in our region and we strongly oppose fascists abroad. Unfortunately, the Anti-Fascist Policy goes beyond standard opposition to fascism and makes false accusations of fascism against the New Pacific Order (NPO), the governing regime of the Pacific, and it is for this reason that we have decided to unpin the Anti-Fascist Dispatch.

Concerns about the content of the Anti-Fascist Policy were first raised with our Founder, Topid, during the Delegacy of Cormactopia Prime, with Topid suggesting he would look into updating the dispatch. That never transpired. Under the Delegacy of Cataluna, concerns were more emphatically raised, but Topid never responded to those concerns due to prolonged and unannounced absence. In waiting for Topid to respond to these concerns, Pacifica's government has sought to honor our Founder's wishes in issuing this policy and to give him time to alter the policy of his own accord. But as Topid's absence continues and as we have no way of knowing when or even if he will return, it has become clear to us that we are responsible for this policy going forward. In unpinning and overturning the Anti-Fascist Policy dispatch, we want to make clear that we do not agree with the accusation that the NPO is fascist. Such an accusation is false and wholly without merit, and it does not reflect the views of the Pacifica Democratic Union or Pacifica's regional community. It never has.

On behalf of the Pacifica Democratic Union, the Regional Council wishes to apologize to the NPO for the false accusation of fascism leveled against their government and community by the Anti-Fascist Policy. We recognize that we should not have allowed respect for our Founder to prevent us from immediately pursuing what was clearly the right course of action, and we acknowledge that we should have unpinned and overturned the Anti-Fascist Policy much earlier. We deeply regret that we didn't. There is one and only one situation in which an accusation of fascism should be made, and that is when the accusation is true. It was not true in this case, and no in-character invasion of another region, no in-character war, justifies such an accusation being falsely made against another community. Despite our ongoing state of opposition to the NPO, the Pacifica Democratic Union hopes to turn the page on this ugly chapter in our history, and to engage in strictly in-character and game-related expressions of our opposition to the NPO going forward. That is what a healthy gameplay community requires.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue May 21, 2019 6:50 pm

Thank grop

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Postby Lukatonia » Tue May 21, 2019 7:23 pm

I am glad that the dispatch was unpinned. I can remember having problems with the dispatch when I served as Vice President of Pacifica.

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue May 21, 2019 8:55 pm

A wise decision
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Postby Armaros » Tue May 21, 2019 11:08 pm

Happy to hear!
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Postby Flame of Dio » Tue May 21, 2019 11:41 pm

I was genuinely happy to hear about this.
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Postby Pierconium » Thu May 23, 2019 10:41 pm

On behalf of the Pacific, the New Pacific Order, and personally, I would like to thank Pacifica for this action.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri May 24, 2019 3:08 am

Are you able to give me a date on when you will be leaving the actual anti-fascist movement as a whole?
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Postby Armaros » Fri May 24, 2019 3:14 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Are you able to give me a date on when you will be leaving the actual anti-fascist movement as a whole?

Nobody said that. The removal of this dispatch only signals that the disgusting allegation that the NPO is fascist is no longer a policy in Pacifica.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri May 24, 2019 6:49 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Are you able to give me a date on when you will be leaving the actual anti-fascist movement as a whole?

Define 'anti-fascist movement'

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Postby Lyrical International Brigade » Fri May 24, 2019 11:27 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Are you able to give me a date on when you will be leaving the actual anti-fascist movement as a whole?


If your beef is with NS-Antifa, you can rest easy. With the sheer number of boots the NPO has provided, I haven't seen anyone tagged Pacifica on Antifa ops in a good month or two (as always, please correct me if my anecdote doesn't rise to the level of "data").

Why you should have beef with us is beyond both me and the scope of this thread, of course.
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Postby Lazarene Ryccia » Fri May 24, 2019 11:55 am

We must always remember that, despite all that happens on Gameplay, this remains a place where we must show proper conduct. Good move from Pacifica for showing the respectable attitude we must all have.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Fri May 24, 2019 3:01 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Are you able to give me a date on when you will be leaving the actual anti-fascist movement as a whole?

That would be never.

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Postby Veaetmar » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:09 am

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President: Cormactopia Prime
Vice President: Rocky Peaks
Prime Minister: Shoalia
Minister of Defense: Qwabour Harbour
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Veaetmar
Minister of Home Affairs: Wymondham
Minister of Culture: VACANT
Minister of Intelligence: Badivermeraed



Hello world, it has been a while since we updated you on recent events in Pacifica and there has been a lot going on so here is a snapshot of the last few months:

A New Charter

The new Charter of the Pacifica Democratic Union was drafted and declares:

“We, the residents of Pacifica, declare our unyielding commitment to the principles of liberty, democracy, and solidarity. We affirm our commitment to maintaining a participatory regional government and community that is open, transparent, and accessible to all who are dedicated to the region. Through this Charter, we mandate that the Pacifica Democratic Union will be governed according to these fundamental principles. This Charter stands as a social covenant between us that we will respect the dignity of each resident of Pacifica, honoring each other's right to freely engage in self-government through this Union."


Following the drafting process, the Charter was voted on and approved by World Assembly nations with 95% in favor. It now serves as our governing document for the region.

Presidential Election

The Presidential Election saw Cormactopia Prime and Khrabryy emerge as the only candidates, and was a fairly one sided affair with Cormactopia Prime receiving 92.9% of the 56 world assembly member votes cast.

Rocky Peaks was later approved as Vice President by residents.

Prime Ministerial Election and Cabinet Appointments

The position of Prime Minister and head of government saw a more fiercely contested competition. Six nations, new and old, ultimately stood on strong and varied platforms: Biodome1/DRUS, The Celtic Dragon, Dino Pacifica Mission, Esholon, Qwabour Harbour and Shoalia.

Shoalia was the eventual winner, securing 30 of the 47 eligible votes cast.

In their acceptance speech, Shoalia thanked the region and appointed their cabinet for the term:

"Thank you again for electing me as your new Prime Minister. I am truly honored by the trust you have instilled in me, and I am eager to get to work! There is much work to be done and I intend to give it my all. As your new Prime Minister, I have the distinct honor of selecting a cabinet with which I will serve our proud region. Without further ado, I would like to announce the chosen members of my cabinet:
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Veaetmar
Minister of Defense: Qwabour Harbour
Minister of Home Affairs: Wymondham
Minister of Culture: Biodome 1 (aka Democratic Republic Of Unified States)
Minister of Intelligence: Aldsea”


The Pacifican Convention

Several nations in the region hosted our first Pacifican Convention, a three hour festival that ended up lasting long into the night. The Convention included roleplaying, a Q&A with the Cabinet and President, the great Pacifican Trivia Game and finished with an Awards ceremony.

The Pacifican Awards:
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The Golden Trident Award - Cormactopia Prime

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The Proud and Plucky Award - Wymondham

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The Pacifican Minister Award - Veaetmar

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The Pacifican Moderator Award - Rocky Peaks

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The Pacifican Best Backstory Award - Liruslau

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The Pacifican Best Capital Name Award - Badivermeraed

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The Pacifican Best Currency Name Award - Rocky Peaks

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The Pacifican Best Flag Award - Cormactopia Prime

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The Pacifican Best Leader Name Award - Democratic Republic Of Unified States

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The Pacifican Best Military Award - Democratic Republic Of Unified States

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The Pacifican Best National Animal Award - Oswald State Correctional Facility

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The Pacifican Best Nation Name Award - Wiskawga

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The Pacifican Best Roleplayer Award - Badivermeraed & Shoalia

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The Pacifican Fan Favorite Award - Shoalia

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The Pacifican Memeiest Nation Award - Weed

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The Pacifican Most Active Award - Shoalia

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The Pacifican Most Cultured Award - Maritagnia

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The Pacifican Most Helpful Award - Dino Pacifica Mission

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The Pacifican Most Historic Award - Cormactopia Prime

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The Pacifican Most Known Award - Cormactopia Prime

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The Pacifican Trivia Award - Dino Pacifica Mission

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The event was a great success with over 1000 regional message board posts and nations played the trivia game long after the formal close of the festival.

[b]The Pacifica Card Festival

The region also hosted a Card Festival hosted by Minister of Culture, Democratic Republic Of Unified States.

We were blessed with a number of notable card players and regional friends in attendance and the event included card giveaways as well as detailed Q&As - with Pacifican nations able to benefit from the combined wisdom of the gathered nations.

Cabinet Changes

Despite all the great events and elections that have occurred over the last few months, we have been forced to deal with several changes in the Cabinet.
Deputy Minister of Intelligence, Badivermeraed and Prime Minister, Shoalia, diligently uncovered that the appointed Minister of Intelligence, Aldsea was a banned player intent on causing harm to Pacifica. Following intervention from the President and NationStates moderators the offending nation was deleted from the game and removed from government, with Badivermeraed deservedly taking their place in Cabinet.

Our Minister of Culture has also recently announced his resignation due to personal matters and will be replaced in due course. We thank DRUS for their excellent service in the Ministry and the great Card Festival they hosted.

Thanks for reading and if you have any questions, as Minister of Foreign Affairs I would be happy to answer them.
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Postby Salvarity » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:23 am

Thank you for the update! Always happy to hear about the happenings in Pacifica. :D
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Postby Veaetmar » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:17 am

Salvarity wrote:Thank you for the update! Always happy to hear about the happenings in Pacifica. :D


Can only apologise that it has been so long coming!
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Postby Lukatonia » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:00 am

Nice update, and congrats to all of those with new positions. Thanks for sharing!

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Postby Veaetmar » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:14 pm

I am heartbroken to say that I hereby resign as Minister of Foreign Affairs due to undue interference from the President and Vice President.

The President has muted me from our Cabinet discord because he couldn't apologise to me (at the Prime Minister's request) without threatening me. Unfortunately I cannot bring myself to spend any more time and energy supporting a Government that sits under the influence of a President who wields his power with emotion and without restraint.

I value the friendships and relationships me and my Deputy have built over the term and I won't stand for members of our own Government insulting them, publicly or privately. In the discussion that preceded the President's intervention I had asked the Vice President to "please be a bit more respectful" of our friends. For some reason the President took offence to 'my tone', and considers a polite request to be uncivil and dictatorial.

I've put a lot of time into the role, supported our great Prime Minister in every manner I could but I won't have my energy and input insulted by an ungrateful and interfering President. He will not be receiving my support in future elections and I'm sorry to Shoalia that I cannot bring myself to support her for the remainder of the term.

I am grateful for the warm welcome that nations in so many regions we have worked with have given me over my term in office, for the relationships we have built and the friendships I hope will continue as I return to participating in Pacifica as a lowly citizen. I hope that my successor will continue the good work of our Ministry and the President and Vice President will learn how to work with their Government with more respect and professionalism going forward.

I hope you don't mind me sharing this here so friends of our region can see it.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:52 pm

Veaetmar wrote:<snip>

Did you actually drag this to the Gameplay forum? That really shows how much respect you don't have for Pacifica.

As I said on our RMB:

There was no "undue interference." The Vice President expressed an opinion in a discussion on the government server, as he is entitled to do. He did not at any point make it out to be a case of his opinion overriding your decisions. You responded by telling him not to interfere in your portfolio, as if only you get to have an opinion on our foreign affairs. The problem was, and is, that you apparently cannot tolerate dissent, and you want to run your ministry like a dictatorship. That's not how we do things here.

You were not banned from the Cabinet's own channel. That is simply a lie.

You were muted from the Cabinet Discord server for 24 hours because of your tone of incivility, and your refusal to apologize for it as requested. No "threatening" occurred except telling you that you would be muted for 24 hours if you didn't apologize to the Vice President and the member of your own ministry whose opinion you also dismissed. You didn't, so you were muted. There are rules on the Cabinet Discord server and as the owner of it, as mandated by the Charter, I'm the one who enforces them.

If you can't work in a group with others, your resignation is probably for the best.

Now please stop dragging your petty grievances to the Gameplay forum. I promise you, aside from people who frequent this forum, already dislike me, and like to take potshots at me, no one cares about what was a minor internal argument in Pacifica until you blew it way out of proportion.
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Postby Veaetmar » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:09 pm

Please note Ayeinc will now be serving as our Minister of Foreign Affairs and served as my incredibly able Deputy. If you need to contact them I am sure you will find them to be equally able as Minister.
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Former Minister of Foreign Affairs in Thalassia (three terms)
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Former Member of Parliament in India
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