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Malphe
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Postby Malphe » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:17 pm

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Disagree. This thread was the most sense seen in gameplay in some time.

Milo warned you. He's probably right.

Well at the very least it was fun to read. I like Milo, not sure if I'd trust him with a box of matches but he speaks his mind.
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Veganism Delenda Est
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Ex-Nation

Postby Veganism Delenda Est » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:39 pm

Dear friends and vegans,

Beef is being served again.

Moving forward, I will be using this account for beef. Milozoldyck should be kept away from livestock.

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Altmoras
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Postby Altmoras » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:17 am

Where's the beef?
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Veganism Delenda Est
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Postby Veganism Delenda Est » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:25 am

Altmoras wrote:Where's the beef?

Currently here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

More to come. Death to vegans !!!
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:01 am

Wow, so mean to those poor vegans Milo
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Postby Yokiria » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:49 am

Just imagine the sound of a long, exhausted yawn as my response to this thread's revival.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:58 pm

Veganism Delenda Est wrote:Death to vegans !!!
Milozoldyck wrote:Death to jaywalkers.

Between these two blatant instances of clear trolling, and your rapid backslide into spammy/baity shitposting in GP overall, plus that whole "You're on a short leash as a lapsed DOS", the usual more gradual escalation in warnings doesn't necessarily apply.

*** Milo, 7-day ban for trolling. *** I'll also note that if you manage to earn yourself another DEAT, which you are well on course to do, that odds are the team will simply re-instate the DOS order at that time, especially as your conduct since your return does not inspire confidence that allowing it to lapse in the first place was a good decision. And if that DOS is re-instated, we're very unlikely to let it lapse a second time.

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Postby Feux » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:12 pm

"Death to jaywalkers" is an old PRL phrase that was extremely popular in GP for awhile.
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:26 pm

Uh, yeah, the jaywalkers thing is an existing injoke from before he was DOS'd in the first place, and the vegans thing is stems from a sendup of "NPO delenda est", which in itself, by the way, is literally a latin phrase with an equivalent meaning to "death to the NPO". Unless you're going to start warning everyone that says that too, this is an enormous overreach.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:18 pm

The jaywalkers line is also the lesser of the violations, included to highlight the problematic 'rapid backslide into spammy/baity shitposting' that is part of why he got smacked. The "Death to vegans" was the primary driver. "Death to <organization>" is a far, far cry from "Death to <specific group of people>". One can call for the death of an ideology or organization (generally, wording IS important!) and be fine, but run afoul of the rules when they call for the death of the actual people who follow or participate in that ideology/organization/whatever.

"Death to the NPO" - attacking the organization = within site rules. (Though as a one-liner post, or series of one-liner posts absent any substantive content, it could still get dinged.)
"Death to the NPO's members!" - advocating death of of a specific group of people = trolling = violating the site rules.

Similarly:
"Death to veganism!" - attacking the ideology = within site rules. (Though as a one-liner post, or series of one-liner posts absent any substantive content, it could still get dinged.)
"Death to vegans!" - advocating death of a specific group of people = trolling = violating the site rules.

Add on to that an extensive prior warning history including a lapsed Delete-On-Sight order, dude's on a much shorter leash for bad behavior than Random Joe GPer with a clean slate is. Hopefully that helps clarify things; dude knows where to file an appeal himself, he doesn't need y'all to come jumping to his defense.
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:46 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Uh, yeah, the jaywalkers thing is an existing injoke from before he was DOS'd in the first place, and the vegans thing is stems from a sendup of "NPO delenda est", which in itself, by the way, is literally a latin phrase with an equivalent meaning to "death to the NPO". Unless you're going to start warning everyone that says that too, this is an enormous overreach.

This isn't accurate, in any case. Milo wasn't warned for the "delenda est" line in his signature, but rather for "Death to vegans !!!" in one of his posts. Carthago delenda est translates into English as "Carthage must be destroyed," not "Death to Carthage." I don't think anyone on our side would be comfortable with a phrase that includes "death to" anything, but "NPO must be destroyed" is clearly just referring to destroying the NPO as an institution.

For what it's worth, I do agree that the "jaywalkers" thing is a meme and is totally harmless. I hope Moderation won't consider it trolling in the future.
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:11 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:This isn't accurate, in any case. Milo wasn't warned for the "delenda est" line in his signature, but rather for "Death to vegans !!!" in one of his posts. Carthago delenda est translates into English as "Carthage must be destroyed," not "Death to Carthage." I don't think anyone on our side would be comfortable with a phrase that includes "death to" anything, but "NPO must be destroyed" is clearly just referring to destroying the NPO as an institution.

For what it's worth, I do agree that the "jaywalkers" thing is a meme and is totally harmless. I hope Moderation won't consider it trolling in the future.

I knew what it translates to, and I disagree. "Death to Carthage" and "Carthage must be destroyed" absolutely means the same thing. You don't need extra determining language to determine that Carthage or the NPO are an institution and not individual people. The desired result is the same.

Reploid Productions wrote:"Death to veganism!" - attacking the ideology = within site rules. (Though as a one-liner post, or series of one-liner posts absent any substantive content, it could still get dinged.)
"Death to vegans!" - advocating death of a specific group of people = trolling = violating the site rules.

Fair cop.
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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:08 am

Wow. I only expected a thread lock and an unofficial warning once moderation caught wind of all this. Forgot Milo was a former DoS.
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Escade
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Postby Escade » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:14 pm

What is the tl:dr version of this thread?

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Consular
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Postby Consular » Mon Dec 24, 2018 2:54 am

The tl;dr is milo hasn't changed at all really.

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Nazmir
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Ex-Nation

Postby Nazmir » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:43 pm

Damn...I miss happenings on GP? Now I regret working so much. This is so spicy. I have questions. Who is Milograd and why is he DOS?

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