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Tapatalk Update: Old Forums being Deleted/Archived

Postby New Rogernomics » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:22 am

Tapatalk is going through and deleting/archiving old forums to the point they can't be accessed, especially after they have been converted.

So if anyone wants to be sure we retain bits of NS history from their old regions (beyond what we get in the wayback machine), they might consider looking into the really old forums before Tapatalk switches them off.

Lazarus just lost it's old IF forum for good: http://z13.invisionfree.com/lazarus/index.php?

For some forums just converted you can find them like this:
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https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/forum name here/

Thought I would bring this to people's attention, as it is disheartening for NS history to be erased like this. :(

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Postby Saint Block » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:25 am

Thank you, New Rogernomics.

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Postby Neo Domais » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:57 am

Shrugs what is the point of keeping old forums?
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Postby Frattastan IV » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:01 am

I think it was never converted in first place (so, offline since September rather than just now). The same happened to Old Blue and PRP's boards.
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Postby Saint Block » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:12 am

RIP the old forums. History will be lost.

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Postby Malphe » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:12 am

Neo Domais wrote:Shrugs what is the point of keeping old forums?

NS history, like it said in the OP?
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Postby Aenglaland » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:20 am

Tapatalk never fails to disappoint eh

It's sad to see so many historical forums being deleted.
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Postby McStooley » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 am

Tapatalk, continuing to prove it's not a good site. Yikes.

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Postby The Seeker of Power » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:02 pm

It was able a terrible site to begin with McS. But yeah... Lots of NS history will be lost there...
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Postby 94 Rocks » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:18 pm

Does this mean that Tapatalk will be considered Forum destroyers? :P

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Postby New Rogernomics » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:28 pm

94 Rocks wrote:Does this mean that Tapatalk will be considered Forum destroyers? :P
Well as a bit dishonest to say the least.

Pretty much Proboards is the last remaining major free provider of off-site NS forums (from back when IF/ZB wasn't taken over by Tapatalk).

A lot seem to have migrated to Proboards or PhpBB now.
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Postby Solorni » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:17 pm

We should create a region called Tapatalk and condemn it.
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Postby Frattastan IV » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:26 pm

Solorni wrote:We should create a region called Tapatalk and condemn it.


There was a draft but the mods thought it would break 'Rule 4' or some nonsense like that. :(
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Draganisia wrote:Also it seems the next war could be NPO fighting directly against Pacifica.

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Postby Minoa » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:55 pm

I do not think that Tapatalk deleted the forums yet, but it seems that they no longer run the software that powers the old-style forums. Maybe if a member asks them with the URLs of their forums in question, then maybe they will do something about it.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:48 pm

The forum isn't deleted. It just has to be converted but I'm fairly certain that only the root admin can make that happen.
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Postby Ghost Land » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:14 pm

I've never liked Crapatalk to begin with. I was upset when Invision Free was taken over by Tapatalk rather recently, thus turning the simple, usable layout of sites like The 110 Club into complete junk that looks ugly and locks up frequently. This is just another reason to stick with either ProBoards or an independently hosted PHPBB forum.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:08 pm

Saint Block wrote:RIP the old forums. History will be lost.

You know a thing or two about destroying history, eh?
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Postby 94 Socks » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:24 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Saint Block wrote:RIP the old forums. History will be lost.

You know a thing or two about destroying history, eh?


Nope. I don’t know nothing. :P

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Postby Aelita I » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:02 pm

Yeah, I've lost a lot of forums around with Tapatalk wiping them out too. :( Fortunately, my most recent previous region as well as the one I'm currently working on had their forums on Jcink, which I also highly recommend.
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Postby Salvarity » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:41 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:
94 Rocks wrote:Does this mean that Tapatalk will be considered Forum destroyers? :P
Well as a bit dishonest to say the least.

Pretty much Proboards is the last remaining major free provider of off-site NS forums (from back when IF/ZB wasn't taken over by Tapatalk).

A lot seem to have migrated to Proboards or PhpBB now.


Honestly, it just seems a lot of regions are opting to not have a forums.

In the top 50 (actual) regions, 13 of them do not have a forum (26%)
In the top 150 (actual) regions, that spikes dramatically to 78 (52%)

These regions all seem to have a Discord though, that platform has completely supplanted the forum it seems.
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Postby West Calypso » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:15 pm

Solorni wrote:We should create a region called Tapatalk and condemn it.

And it shall be done. :p

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Postby 94 Clocks » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:50 pm

Salvarity wrote:
New Rogernomics wrote:Well as a bit dishonest to say the least.

Pretty much Proboards is the last remaining major free provider of off-site NS forums (from back when IF/ZB wasn't taken over by Tapatalk).

A lot seem to have migrated to Proboards or PhpBB now.


Honestly, it just seems a lot of regions are opting to not have a forums.

In the top 50 (actual) regions, 13 of them do not have a forum (26%)
In the top 150 (actual) regions, that spikes dramatically to 78 (52%)

These regions all seem to have a Discord though, that platform has completely supplanted the forum it seems.


Discord can certainly handle most of our needs, but it’s Knot a true replacement.

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Postby Minoa » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:40 pm

I strongly encourage self-hosting the forums these days. phpBB is open source, web hosting is not too expensive, and there is the backup option in phpBB, which I found out while playing around a little while back.
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Postby 94 Clocks » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:47 pm

I could certainly flex my forum muscles. It’s been a while. I’ve been begrudging it since the fall of Zetaboards.

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:14 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:The forum isn't deleted. It just has to be converted but I'm fairly certain that only the root admin can make that happen.

Not true - when browsing NS history and/or being a NationStates Miniver Cheevy, I emailed the support staff to restore the Central Defense Army's old forums, which were promptly restored even they I've never even been on NationStates in 2005 nor had an account on the CDA's forums, much less serve as any sort of admin or the root.
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