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Still Jumping
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Postby Still Jumping » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:51 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:Yeah uh.... three minutes doesn't count as a trigger mate.


Three minutes was a warning in case anybody felt like jumping with me. I didn't expect anyone to, but I did not give up hope.

The true trigger was called via post edit. There were 15 seconds between my jump (simultaneous to the post edit) and the beginning of update in The Pacific:

01/01/2019, 01:05:04 EST: Still Jumping relocated from The West Pacific to The Pacific.
01/01/2019, 01:05:19 EST: Nualum ceased to exist in The Pacific.
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South Odreria
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Postby South Odreria » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:34 pm

Oof, I'd have jumped with you if I'd seen this. Oh well, you still set the record.
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Tinhampton
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:24 am

South Odreria wrote:Oh well, you still set the record.

No they didn't, it was abandoned two weeks ago after Galiantus got into a bit of trouble for inviting Saint Block onto his Discord server, amongst other things.
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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:44 am

I completely missed this :lol:

I mean, I was awake around jump time, but not in any state to play NS. :blush:
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South Odreria
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Postby South Odreria » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:28 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
South Odreria wrote:Oh well, you still set the record.

No they didn't, it was abandoned two weeks ago after Galiantus got into a bit of trouble for inviting Saint Block onto his Discord server, amongst other things.


I was referring to the record of the first ever forum trigger. I am aware of what happened in this thread as I participated in it.
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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:37 pm

South Odreria wrote:I was referring to the record of the first ever forum trigger. I am aware of what happened in this thread as I participated in it.

First NS forum trigger possibly. Not the first trigger using forums by a long shot.
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South Odreria
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Postby South Odreria » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:13 pm

Obviously I was talking about this forum, have a nice day.
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94 Franks
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Postby 94 Franks » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:23 am

I was told something similar is still going to be a thing but under the APC. Is this true?

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Galiantus III
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Postby Galiantus III » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:44 pm

I am resurrecting the attrition project on the NPO. Read the OP for details and updates.
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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:21 pm

This would have been a valid tactic for December but is largely pointless now that the ROs have secured a firm Influence base.

But, knock yourself out.
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:36 pm

^ What Ivan said, except for the bit about it being a valid tactic (ie, useful) even then

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Pierconium
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Postby Pierconium » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:^ What Ivan said, except for the bit about it being a valid tactic (ie, useful) even then

Obviously, the position is debatable.

My belief is that if such actions were undertaken while the Senate was in transition, with many of the nations having very low Influence levels, that at the very least, concern and stress would have been imparted onto those nations. If done correctly and consistently I think we would have seen nations having to be more diligent at updates, executing more ejections to fuel the oppositions propaganda campaign, and diminishing morale within the NPO.

Ultimately, you are correct, this would not have broken the NPO. It would not have destroyed the government or seen us driven from the Pacific. But it certainly would have perpetuated certain levels of distress and hampered our campaign towards political organisation and our foreign policy objectives.

I know that there were suggestions for this to take place from the outset, and we were actively preparing for this very eventuality. It was surprising when the so-called Anti-Pacific Coalition didn’t coordinate such actions at the very beginning.

But, we can agree. Doing so now is certainly a waste of time and effort.
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:58 pm

Pierconium wrote:But, we can agree. Doing so now is certainly a waste of time and effort.

Hey, look, something we can agree on. Galiantus should win a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Honeydewistania
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:56 pm

This is totally gonna work yeah 1 influence is gonna dismantle the NPO on many levels dab
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:30 am

Oh ok then.
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Xoriet
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Postby Xoriet » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:33 am

Lord Dominator wrote:^ What Ivan said, except for the bit about it being a valid tactic (ie, useful) even then

I disagree too that it would have been wholly ineffective. If you were looking for long-term devastation or dethroning as an end result of attrition, yes, that wouldn't have been attained. However, like Ivan said, in the short term, some of us would have been drained and it would have kept us locked for months rebuilding lost influence. Instead we went a few months with enough endos to get the influence we originally lacked and no efforts to hinder influence gain. It takes longer to build significant influence than it does to spend it.

But...Galiantus...this was honestly something that needed to be done in December when we had very low influence on most ROs. Now you'd be pure entertainment rather than any kind of problem for us.
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Myrth
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Postby Myrth » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:27 am

Trying to mildly irritate us out of power didn't work for the ADN in 2004 and it won't work for you in 2019.
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