Disclosure

[A mean old man]

This is a time of fervor and mystique. An era of shock and awe, a moment of excitement and uproar in Nationstates history. Tables have been turned. Regimes have been rattled. Recent events have inspired wars, retirements, exiles, and brought tensions and emotions to levels previously unheard-of in the last several years. But the main course of the day hasn't even been served.

Some hefty disclosures have been made; however, they pale in comparison to the gravity of what I am now about to expose to the world. For an infiltration far more advanced and with real, extensive political backing is currently underway. It is an operation that has spanned over half a decade. Its target: Lazarus - the very same Lazarus that has been on the minds and in the mention of NSers across the globe within the last three years, ever since the region was made relevant by the fall of the NLO.

Over 13 years ago the nation of Treadwellia was founded. It was allowed to CTE, and around 5 years ago was refounded in Lazarus. Shortly after its refounding and intermittently over the course of the next few years, the nation made fluffy, unsubstantial posts on the RMB, such as the ones sampled here:

• "Hello everyone! Back in NationStates after an absence of several years! :)",
• "Feux is a dancing machine. . . man.",
• "So if we have a fake Phoenix King, would he be a Faux Feux?",
• "Ack! It thinks I am an Iron Fisted Consumerist! Noooooo! :(",
• "WHY must it think me Psychotic agaaaaaain? :( This makes me sad.",
• "But I like Lazarus. It is my home now. :)",
• ":) I love this game. You people are nutty.",
• "I'm tired. I should be working. Can I hang out in Lazarus for a bit instead?",
• "Down with puppets! Up with Feux! :)",
• "We lost Feux? :(",
• "I don't drink. I cannot vote in this poll. :(",
• ":( Poor Lazarus in turmoil?",
• "Thank you, Funkadelia. :) It's a screenshot close-up of my old character from City of Heroes, who was a Santa-costumed plant controller.",
• "Also, Stujenske. . . Noodles, buddy. You typed "Noobles," with a B?",
• "Kazmr, Tina Turner said it best, right? "I can't stand the rai-aiiiiiin. . . against my windoooooow. . . . .",
• "Hooray! Kazmr speaks the noble language of the benevolent Tubbius of Treadwellia! Rejoice!"

With the obvious obsession with Feux and the passive yet clear tilts at bringing attention to what some would refer to as malpractices of his regime, one could only wonder what'd cause an unknown, ancient puppet nation that had just been revived to cause such disruption in an otherwise peaceful, blissful region. This is especially puzzling, given these are the nation's very first posts after over 8 years of not posting on an RMB at all. So who might be behind this nation? Who could it possibly be, HMMM?

Two years after its refounding, the RMB posting of Treadwellia accelerated and evolved. The narrative then centered around Tubbius, the "most rotund". Treadwellia had stepped up his game - but not to the height of its ability. Only recently, with the fall of Evil Wolf and the rise of Imki, did Treadwellia finally gain WA - only recently, around the same time that a certain player supposedly retired from his position elsewhere.

There are few nations as old and as active as Treadwellia and even fewer would have any motivation to pursue a gainful presence within Lazarus. Among these few, there is only one nation with the political backing, the military prowess, and unwavering motivation to pursue such an offense against a sovereign region. Between the extensive and telling history of his posts on the RMB, his recent and rapid rise through the ranks in Lazarus at the most opportune moment, and the reports of my numerous confirmed sources, I can announce to you today that Treadwellia is, in fact, Grub.

[Milozoldyck]

Where's the popcorn emoticon? I'm intrigued.

EDIT: My rust is showing. I thought this was serious.

[Treadwellia]

Between the extensive and telling history of his posts on the RMB, his recent and rapid rise through the ranks in Lazarus at the most opportune moment, and the reports of my numerous confirmed sources, I can announce to you today that Treadwellia is, in fact, Grub.

Annnnnd you would be wrong. I'm nobody but myself. :/

This was an interesting read, though, and a fun theory, but dead wrong. End of discussion.

[Alkasia]

#GiveTubbiusBackTheXKIFounderNation2k18

[Treadwellia]

#GiveTubbiusBackTheXKIFounderNation2k18

Sigh. . . .

Just a Tub, not a Grub.

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

Regardless of my feelings about the GP activity of him and his region, I for one have to give props to AMOM for this, and more generally for taking this whole thing in stride and with a laugh - I can respect that, well done.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

He was a XKI plant all along to stabilize the region and move Laz into defender stance

[Ambrella]

Grub can't be Tubbius, Grub is me.

[Bdurham07]

#GiveTubbiusBackTheXKIFounderNation2k18

Sigh. . . .

Just a Tub, not a Grub.

This is just our lovely Lazarus vice delegate not Grub

[Alkasia]

Sigh. . . .

Just a Tub, not a Grub.

This is just our lovely Lazarus vice delegate not Grub

That's exactly what he wants you to think.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Go away, AMOM. Lazarus isn't interested in your sideshow.

[Reventus Koth]

I think, deep down, we're all Tubbius.

[A mean old man]

Go away, AMOM. Lazarus isn't interested in your sideshow.

Lazarus should be interested in matters of its top security.

[Milozoldyck]

I'm all for satire, but this isn't fair to Tubbius. He doesn't deserve to have warrantless suspicion hanging over his reputation.

Sorry G.

[Feux]

I'm all for satire, but this isn't fair to Tubbius. He doesn't deserve to have warrantless suspicion hanging over his reputation.

Sorry G.

Given your past relationship with AMOM, it would be no suprise that this reply would likely come from the need to separate yourself politically from your past.

[Milozoldyck]

I'm all for satire, but this isn't fair to Tubbius. He doesn't deserve to have warrantless suspicion hanging over his reputation.

Sorry G.

Given your past relationship with AMOM, it would be no suprise that this reply would likely come from the need to separate yourself politically from your past.

Obviously.

However, you and I both know there's no way I'll ever be politically separated from my past. Hail The Pacific!

[Kuriko]

This is a time of fervor and mystique. An era of shock and awe, a moment of excitement and uproar in Nationstates history. Tables have been turned. Regimes have been rattled. Recent events have inspired wars, retirements, exiles, and brought tensions and emotions to levels previously unheard-of in the last several years. But the main course of the day hasn't even been served.

Some hefty disclosures have been made; however, they pale in comparison to the gravity of what I am now about to expose to the world. For an infiltration far more advanced and with real, extensive political backing is currently underway. It is an operation that has spanned over half a decade. Its target: Lazarus - the very same Lazarus that has been on the minds and in the mention of NSers across the globe within the last three years, ever since the region was made relevant by the fall of the NLO.

Over 13 years ago the nation of Treadwellia was founded. It was allowed to CTE, and around 5 years ago was refounded in Lazarus. Shortly after its refounding and intermittently over the course of the next few years, the nation made fluffy, unsubstantial posts on the RMB, such as the ones sampled here:

• "Hello everyone! Back in NationStates after an absence of several years! ",
• "Feux is a dancing machine. . . man.",
• "So if we have a fake Phoenix King, would he be a Faux Feux?",
• "Ack! It thinks I am an Iron Fisted Consumerist! Noooooo! ",
• "WHY must it think me Psychotic agaaaaaain? This makes me sad.",
• "But I like Lazarus. It is my home now. ",
• ":) I love this game. You people are nutty.",
• "I'm tired. I should be working. Can I hang out in Lazarus for a bit instead?",
• "Down with puppets! Up with Feux! ",
• "We lost Feux? ",
• "I don't drink. I cannot vote in this poll. ",
• ":( Poor Lazarus in turmoil?",
• "Thank you, Funkadelia. It's a screenshot close-up of my old character from City of Heroes, who was a Santa-costumed plant controller.",
• "Also, Stujenske. . . Noodles, buddy. You typed "Noobles," with a B?",
• "Kazmr, Tina Turner said it best, right? "I can't stand the rai-aiiiiiin. . . against my windoooooow. . . . .",
• "Hooray! Kazmr speaks the noble language of the benevolent Tubbius of Treadwellia! Rejoice!"

With the obvious obsession with Feux and the passive yet clear tilts at bringing attention to what some would refer to as malpractices of his regime, one could only wonder what'd cause an unknown, ancient puppet nation that had just been revived to cause such disruption in an otherwise peaceful, blissful region. This is especially puzzling, given these are the nation's very first posts after over 8 years of not posting on an RMB at all. So who might be behind this nation? Who could it possibly be, HMMM?

Two years after its refounding, the RMB posting of Treadwellia accelerated and evolved. The narrative then centered around Tubbius, the "most rotund". Treadwellia had stepped up his game - but not to the height of its ability. Only recently, with the fall of Evil Wolf and the rise of Imki, did Treadwellia finally gain WA - only recently, around the same time that a certain player supposedly retired from his position elsewhere.

There are few nations as old and as active as Treadwellia and even fewer would have any motivation to pursue a gainful presence within Lazarus. Among these few, there is only one nation with the political backing, the military prowess, and unwavering motivation to pursue such an offense against a sovereign region. Between the extensive and telling history of his posts on the RMB, his recent and rapid rise through the ranks in Lazarus at the most opportune moment, and the reports of my numerous confirmed sources, I can announce to you today that Treadwellia is, in fact, Grub.

This is a wild theory, but completely 100% false. Every TITO member knows, and can confirm, that Grub's WA nation has been Titanica. Grub has used that nation in the service of TITO and 10ki for over 14 years, and its well documented as his WA nation in TITO records. Nice try on the spin though AMOM, why don't you crawl back into TRR instead of trying to drag our old founders name into the mud?

[Aschente]

This is a time of fervor and mystique. An era of shock and awe, a moment of excitement and uproar in Nationstates history. Tables have been turned. Regimes have been rattled. Recent events have inspired wars, retirements, exiles, and brought tensions and emotions to levels previously unheard-of in the last several years. But the main course of the day hasn't even been served.

Some hefty disclosures have been made; however, they pale in comparison to the gravity of what I am now about to expose to the world. For an infiltration far more advanced and with real, extensive political backing is currently underway. It is an operation that has spanned over half a decade. Its target: Lazarus - the very same Lazarus that has been on the minds and in the mention of NSers across the globe within the last three years, ever since the region was made relevant by the fall of the NLO.

Over 13 years ago the nation of Treadwellia was founded. It was allowed to CTE, and around 5 years ago was refounded in Lazarus. Shortly after its refounding and intermittently over the course of the next few years, the nation made fluffy, unsubstantial posts on the RMB, such as the ones sampled here:

• "Hello everyone! Back in NationStates after an absence of several years! ",
• "Feux is a dancing machine. . . man.",
• "So if we have a fake Phoenix King, would he be a Faux Feux?",
• "Ack! It thinks I am an Iron Fisted Consumerist! Noooooo! ",
• "WHY must it think me Psychotic agaaaaaain? This makes me sad.",
• "But I like Lazarus. It is my home now. ",
• ":) I love this game. You people are nutty.",
• "I'm tired. I should be working. Can I hang out in Lazarus for a bit instead?",
• "Down with puppets! Up with Feux! ",
• "We lost Feux? ",
• "I don't drink. I cannot vote in this poll. ",
• ":( Poor Lazarus in turmoil?",
• "Thank you, Funkadelia. It's a screenshot close-up of my old character from City of Heroes, who was a Santa-costumed plant controller.",
• "Also, Stujenske. . . Noodles, buddy. You typed "Noobles," with a B?",
• "Kazmr, Tina Turner said it best, right? "I can't stand the rai-aiiiiiin. . . against my windoooooow. . . . .",
• "Hooray! Kazmr speaks the noble language of the benevolent Tubbius of Treadwellia! Rejoice!"

With the obvious obsession with Feux and the passive yet clear tilts at bringing attention to what some would refer to as malpractices of his regime, one could only wonder what'd cause an unknown, ancient puppet nation that had just been revived to cause such disruption in an otherwise peaceful, blissful region. This is especially puzzling, given these are the nation's very first posts after over 8 years of not posting on an RMB at all. So who might be behind this nation? Who could it possibly be, HMMM?

Two years after its refounding, the RMB posting of Treadwellia accelerated and evolved. The narrative then centered around Tubbius, the "most rotund". Treadwellia had stepped up his game - but not to the height of its ability. Only recently, with the fall of Evil Wolf and the rise of Imki, did Treadwellia finally gain WA - only recently, around the same time that a certain player supposedly retired from his position elsewhere.

There are few nations as old and as active as Treadwellia and even fewer would have any motivation to pursue a gainful presence within Lazarus. Among these few, there is only one nation with the political backing, the military prowess, and unwavering motivation to pursue such an offense against a sovereign region. Between the extensive and telling history of his posts on the RMB, his recent and rapid rise through the ranks in Lazarus at the most opportune moment, and the reports of my numerous confirmed sources, I can announce to you today that Treadwellia is, in fact, Grub.

Interesting theory but its totally wrong. Grubs WA is Titanica and it has been for MANY years. If our dear founder was involved in this I feel like we would have noticed by now.

[Kuriko]

This is a time of fervor and mystique. An era of shock and awe, a moment of excitement and uproar in Nationstates history. Tables have been turned. Regimes have been rattled. Recent events have inspired wars, retirements, exiles, and brought tensions and emotions to levels previously unheard-of in the last several years. But the main course of the day hasn't even been served.

Some hefty disclosures have been made; however, they pale in comparison to the gravity of what I am now about to expose to the world. For an infiltration far more advanced and with real, extensive political backing is currently underway. It is an operation that has spanned over half a decade. Its target: Lazarus - the very same Lazarus that has been on the minds and in the mention of NSers across the globe within the last three years, ever since the region was made relevant by the fall of the NLO.

Over 13 years ago the nation of Treadwellia was founded. It was allowed to CTE, and around 5 years ago was refounded in Lazarus. Shortly after its refounding and intermittently over the course of the next few years, the nation made fluffy, unsubstantial posts on the RMB, such as the ones sampled here:

• "Hello everyone! Back in NationStates after an absence of several years! ",
• "Feux is a dancing machine. . . man.",
• "So if we have a fake Phoenix King, would he be a Faux Feux?",
• "Ack! It thinks I am an Iron Fisted Consumerist! Noooooo! ",
• "WHY must it think me Psychotic agaaaaaain? This makes me sad.",
• "But I like Lazarus. It is my home now. ",
• ":) I love this game. You people are nutty.",
• "I'm tired. I should be working. Can I hang out in Lazarus for a bit instead?",
• "Down with puppets! Up with Feux! ",
• "We lost Feux? ",
• "I don't drink. I cannot vote in this poll. ",
• ":( Poor Lazarus in turmoil?",
• "Thank you, Funkadelia. It's a screenshot close-up of my old character from City of Heroes, who was a Santa-costumed plant controller.",
• "Also, Stujenske. . . Noodles, buddy. You typed "Noobles," with a B?",
• "Kazmr, Tina Turner said it best, right? "I can't stand the rai-aiiiiiin. . . against my windoooooow. . . . .",
• "Hooray! Kazmr speaks the noble language of the benevolent Tubbius of Treadwellia! Rejoice!"

With the obvious obsession with Feux and the passive yet clear tilts at bringing attention to what some would refer to as malpractices of his regime, one could only wonder what'd cause an unknown, ancient puppet nation that had just been revived to cause such disruption in an otherwise peaceful, blissful region. This is especially puzzling, given these are the nation's very first posts after over 8 years of not posting on an RMB at all. So who might be behind this nation? Who could it possibly be, HMMM?

Two years after its refounding, the RMB posting of Treadwellia accelerated and evolved. The narrative then centered around Tubbius, the "most rotund". Treadwellia had stepped up his game - but not to the height of its ability. Only recently, with the fall of Evil Wolf and the rise of Imki, did Treadwellia finally gain WA - only recently, around the same time that a certain player supposedly retired from his position elsewhere.

There are few nations as old and as active as Treadwellia and even fewer would have any motivation to pursue a gainful presence within Lazarus. Among these few, there is only one nation with the political backing, the military prowess, and unwavering motivation to pursue such an offense against a sovereign region. Between the extensive and telling history of his posts on the RMB, his recent and rapid rise through the ranks in Lazarus at the most opportune moment, and the reports of my numerous confirmed sources, I can announce to you today that Treadwellia is, in fact, Grub.

Interesting theory but its totally wrong. Grubs WA is Titanica and it has been for MANY years. If our dear founder was involved in this I feel like we would have noticed by now.

Not to mention the fact that all WA changes, regardless of who it is, must be reported to the XO of TITO. Not even our founder is above that, and as to why Grub doesn't have his WA on the nation Grub is because he retired as our founder last year. The nation Grub, and its associated forum account, are both under the control of our current founder Woonsocket.

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Ah That explains it

[Sargon Reman]

In the time that you spent spinning stories and bullshit about our Founder in this thread, you and Feux
could have instead used that time toward even a half hearted apology to the community you just betrayed.

Among these few, there is only one nation with the political backing, the military prowess, and unwavering motivation to pursue....

But oh well....they say imitation is the highest form of flattery I suppose. If you wish to continue to imitate Grub as this nation I guess you can go ahead because he is 10x the player you and Feux are even put together.

[Imkiville]

... Among these few, there is only one nation with the political backing, the military prowess, and unwavering motivation to pursue such an offense against a sovereign region. Between the extensive and telling history of his posts on the RMB, his recent and rapid rise through the ranks in Lazarus at the most opportune moment, and the reports of my numerous confirmed sources, I can announce to you today that Treadwellia is, in fact, Grub.

I'm confused by this narrative, Treadwellia's 'recent and rapid rise through the ranks' has had nothing to do with 'political backing' or 'military prowess'. It was my personal choice, influenced by the actions I had personally witnessed during my time in Lazarus, to appoint him as Vice-Delegate. Are you trying to say I'm also in on this conspiracy? News to me! I thought the conspiracy was I'm working deep cover for LWU still.
Not to mention the unanimous confirmation vote, put to the regional citizens who include members of TBH and other raider affiliated regions. Poor effort dude.
#FakeNews

[Killer Kitty]

Top notch, AMOM. Would rage/laugh again.

[Grub]

Between the extensive and telling history of his posts on the RMB, his recent and rapid rise through the ranks in Lazarus at the most opportune moment, and the reports of my numerous confirmed sources, I can announce to you today that Treadwellia is, in fact, Grub.

Annnnnd you would be wrong. I'm nobody but myself. :/

This was an interesting read, though, and a fun theory, but dead wrong. End of discussion.

Just to confirm, fascinating as AMOM's silly little speculation may be, it is is a great big honking load of steaming cow flop. Grub most is assuredly not Treadwellia.

*edit to add the "A" in AMOM*

[Th Empire of Wymondham]

The fact that you have falsely accused an innocent individual of the exact same acts your have continually perpetrated throughout your NS career AMOM, with no actual evidence is quite simply disgusting