Imperial Statement from the New Pacific Order

[Lord Dominator]

Y'know, upon a re-read, I think you actually make a pretty interesting point here. It's a meaningless point, of course, but it's still interesting.

NationStates in a nutshell right here, non-ladies and non-gentlemen

[Kavagrad]

Seems like we're all kinda waiting around until East Durthang is padded with enough endorsements to formally conclude the succession. Though it is mildly eyebrow-raising as to why it's taking this long, as I would normally expect the NPO to act much more swiftly.

East Durthang two ish days ago: 262 endos
East Durthang like this morning: 261 endos
East Durthang earlier today: 257 endos
East Durthang right now: 260 endos

ED's having trouble getting his endo count up.

ED now at 267. That's an average net gain of 1.2 per day over the past 4, the transition could be done as soon as May!

[Darkesia]

This actually concerns me. Has (s)he been tarting? If so, why doesn't Ale just drop WA?
It's not that hard to figure out.

Step 1: Trust the leadership around you.
Step 2: Drop WA and allow the new Delegate to take the seat.

Oh. Never mind. I see what you are implying there. Sometimes I just need things spelled out for me a little more clearly.

[Altmoras]

Gee I wonder why a guy with only 11k SPDR isn't in a rush to assume the delegacy.

About the only viable way to bring the NPO down right now is if one of the BC officers is a double agent and ejects ED after Aleisyr drops WA. If ED waits to assume the delegacy until he has enough SPDR to be immune to ejection by everybody not named Aleisyr then there's no threat.

[Darkesia]

Agreed.
That Step 1 is a doozy sometimes.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Gee I wonder why a guy with only 11k SPDR isn't in a rush to assume the delegacy.

About the only viable way to bring the NPO down right now is if one of the BC officers is a double agent and ejects ED after Aleisyr drops WA. If ED waits to assume the delegacy until he has enough SPDR to be immune to ejection by everybody not named Aleisyr then there's no threat.

Someone needs to do the math. I'll do the math.

All but 2 RO's already lack the influence necessary to do this (RO costs are doubled!)

Japanese Schoolgirls will be unable to do so in 6 days, based on current endogap and not accounting for growth on either.

Glealian will be unable to do so in ~ 10 days, based on the same.

ED could have passed folks like Japanese Schoolgirls sooner if they'd kept to the endocap set for RO's instead of being at almost 3x it, but Glealian is actually keeping close to it (only 5 over), and just has a high baseline.

...of course, if this is your holding issue, you could also just remove some BC perms during the transition. But that makes it more in your face that TP doesn't trust it's own RO's

[Failed States]

Gee I wonder why a guy with only 11k SPDR isn't in a rush to assume the delegacy.

About the only viable way to bring the NPO down right now is if one of the BC officers is a double agent and ejects ED after Aleisyr drops WA. If ED waits to assume the delegacy until he has enough SPDR to be immune to ejection by everybody not named Aleisyr then there's no threat.

Someone needs to do the math. I'll do the math.

All but 2 RO's already lack the influence necessary to do this (RO costs are doubled!)

Japanese Schoolgirls will be unable to do so in 6 days, based on current endogap and not accounting for growth on either.

Glealian will be unable to do so in ~ 10 days, based on the same.

ED could have passed folks like Japanese Schoolgirls sooner if they'd kept to the endocap set for RO's instead of being at almost 3x it, but Glealian is actually keeping close to it (only 5 over), and just has a high baseline.

...of course, if this is your holding issue, you could also just remove some BC perms during the transition. But that makes it more in your face that TP doesn't trust it's own RO's

It's not the RO's only, and your math is not correctly applied. The Pacific has to make sure that someone backed by foreign endorsements cannot instantly eject them as delegate for at least two updates while the people deployed elsewhere are recalled into The Pacific.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Someone needs to do the math. I'll do the math.

All but 2 RO's already lack the influence necessary to do this (RO costs are doubled!)

Japanese Schoolgirls will be unable to do so in 6 days, based on current endogap and not accounting for growth on either.

Glealian will be unable to do so in ~ 10 days, based on the same.

ED could have passed folks like Japanese Schoolgirls sooner if they'd kept to the endocap set for RO's instead of being at almost 3x it, but Glealian is actually keeping close to it (only 5 over), and just has a high baseline.

...of course, if this is your holding issue, you could also just remove some BC perms during the transition. But that makes it more in your face that TP doesn't trust it's own RO's

It's not the RO's only, and your math is not correctly applied. The Pacific has to make sure that someone backed by foreign endorsements cannot instantly eject them as delegate for at least two updates while the people deployed elsewhere are recalled into The Pacific.

Hi (Sad-States?).

What?

Besides the fact that anyone not an Ro...can't ban or eject, so yes, it's only RO's the matter, the only 2 non-RO's with enough influence to matter have 10 and 2 endos respectively. No one can even make them an RO except ale.

While a lower infleunce RO or team thereof could theoretically eject some of those endorsing ED (and likely them too) and then bring in an army on the smaller gap, the closest nation in endos to ED is still 150 endos behind. Most of the people endorsing ED have >100 influence, with many in the hundreds or thousands. That gap could not be realistically closed to even, say, about 50 (a gargantuan number of updaters still), unless like, *all* the RO's went rogue.

As for the math - it's not very hard. Given that I'm ignoring any significant change in endogap given the relatively stalled nature of things and the short-ish time frame (and accounting for slight changes by rounding up), it's a simple linear system of equations. I did actually make a mistake, but it's actually that said "days" up there when I meant "updates."

ED is y=(2/3)(11600+270*x)

Glealian is y=(9000+55*x)

JS is y=(8100 +120*x)

Each being (base influence + endos * updates), with ED's then 2/3s'd because that's what an RO would need to eject him (without ban). Run any pair as a linear system of equations,you get a result of y=point where influence needed to ban exactly matches influence RO has, and x=number of updates it will take.

So, with my mistake making the day-counts be halved, and even allowing you an extra day or two if you'd like, we should expect the transition in a week if this is the hold up

[Kavagrad]

It's not the RO's only, and your math is not correctly applied. The Pacific has to make sure that someone backed by foreign endorsements cannot instantly eject them as delegate for at least two updates while the people deployed elsewhere are recalled into The Pacific.

Hi (Sad-States?).

What?

Besides the fact that anyone not an Ro...can't ban or eject, so yes, it's only RO's the matter, the only 2 non-RO's with enough influence to matter have 10 and 2 endos respectively. No one can even make them an RO except ale.

While a lower infleunce RO or team thereof could theoretically eject some of those endorsing ED (and likely them too) and then bring in an army on the smaller gap, the closest nation in endos to ED is still 150 endos behind. Most of the people endorsing ED have >100 influence, with many in the hundreds or thousands. That gap could not be realistically closed to even, say, about 50 (a gargantuan number of updaters still), unless like, *all* the RO's went rogue.

As for the math - it's not very hard. Given that I'm ignoring any significant change in endogap given the relatively stalled nature of things and the short-ish time frame (and accounting for slight changes by rounding up), it's a simple linear system of equations. I did actually make a mistake, but it's actually that said "days" up there when I meant "updates."

ED is y=(2/3)(11600+270*x)

Glealian is y=(9000+55*x)

JS is y=(8100 +120*x)

Each being (base influence + endos * updates), with ED's then 2/3s'd because that's what an RO would need to eject him (without ban). Run any pair as a linear system of equations,you get a result of y=point where influence needed to ban exactly matches influence RO has, and x=number of updates it will take.

So, with my mistake making the day-counts be halved, and even allowing you an extra day or two if you'd like, we should expect the transition in a week if this is the hold up

Oooo, goodie! A new Emperor for Christmas!

[Imperialist Siren]

Blast from the past:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=262057

[Altmoras]

Blast from the past:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=262057

Classic.

[Nintendo Switch Parental Controls]

Hail on the Pacific.

As in the weather

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Hail on the Pacific.

As in the weather

I wasn't aware this was a weather forecasting thread.

[Sad-States]

Not an account of mine. Only nations I have active currently are Sad-States, Sad States, and Dvorak The Great.

Edit: A mod could verify this if that's possible, if they wish of course. I know I ain't the owner of Failed States.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Not an account of mine. Only nations I have active currently are Sad-States, Sad States, and Dvorak The Great.

Edit: A mod could verify this if that's possible, if they wish of course. I know I ain't the owner of Failed States.

I’ll beleive you, I just noted the similar name along with the fact you’d recently endo’d up in TP

[The Seeker of Power]

Ugh... The retort...

I also thought it was a Sad States puppet

[94 Friends Like Me]

For the record, 94 Flock is not my puppet.

[Pierconium]

Regarding the NPO Declaration of War against the Black Hawks

While the Senate of the Pacific recognizes the current state of affairs with the Black Hawks as one of hostility, the declaration of war on the part of the Pacific and the New Pacific Order is hereby formally rescinded. In practical terms, this means that the clause 'Henceforth, the New Pacific Order will actively conduct military operations against TBH and its interests' is null and void. The Pacific will not be actively seeking to take part in military actions outside of the Pacific, or within its treaty partners as requested, in order to thwart or otherwise oppose the Black Hawks.

Signed on behalf of the Emperor of the New Pacific Order by:

Ivan Moldavi
Ruler of Pierconium
Consul of the Pacific

[Darkesia]

Wait.
What?

Ivan, while I have the greatest respect for you and recognize your voice as one of authority within the Pacific, this is absolutely something that should come from the desk of the Emperor, whomever it is decided that may be.

[Pierconium]

Wait.
What?

Ivan, while I have the greatest respect for you and recognize your voice as one of authority within the Pacific, this is absolutely something that should come from the desk of the Emperor, whomever it is decided that may be.

As you know, the Consul speaks on behalf of the Emperor often in public interaction. The very statement this responds to was made by a previous Consul.

Insofar as NSGP is concerned, I speak for the Emperor, the NPO, and the Pacific until such time as I resign or am relieved of position.

[Grater Tovakia]

When did TBH withdraw their declaration of war?

[The Seeker of Power]

While the Senate of the Pacific recognizes the current state of affairs with the Black Hawks as one of hostility, the declaration of war on the part of the Pacific and the New Pacific Order is hereby formally rescinded.

Does it says anything about TBH's DoW somewhere?

[Unibot III]

Ivan's preferred foreign policy is yet again reintroduced with this latest interregnum.

[Lord Dominator]

When did TBH withdraw their declaration of war?

That would require us to have one in the first place.

[Jakker]

It's fun to watch NPO admit their mistakes.