Imperial Statement from the New Pacific Order

[Azaelai]

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Care to elaborate on how TBH is taking over Osiris?

[Devi]

What's shameless is a member of the NPO and Legio Pacificus clearly pushing their 'Cormac is an ebil bully' agenda. It's almost as if you have a narrative to push yourself

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Ah yes. Osiris and its pharaoh who's never been in TBH, FA vizier who's never been in TBH, several guardians who've never been in TBH, and several others who have little to do with TBH these days. Very taken over. I'm sure Alti can confirm that she's dancing on my puppet strings if you ask her.

[Vancouvia]

I apologize for interrupting the circle-jerk between you two, but..

The founder of TWI expressed support regarding actions against the sovereignty of Osiris. There is your reason for "threats" and disrespect from the co-founder of the current regional government of the Osiris Fraternal Order.

Cormac's reaction is not unreasonable. I'm certain that anyone with a passion for Osiris will tell you similarly.

Cute... But it IS unreasonable, as all they've done is ask for people to stop pushing them a way they don't want to go. Their region barely intermingles in gameplay, even. They haven't threaten anyone, they haven't mentioned any actions they are taking, etc. Literally, their whole post is "stop it, we don't care cuz TP hasn't harmed us".

So yeah, it SEEMS unreasonable, not unexpected tho: GP doesn't know what respect is. And this is not directed at Cormac, it was YOU who thought it was. It was directed at GP in general.

To whoever it fits, if you wish.

Right, I probably wouldn't have wrote the dispatch if multiple people hadn't semi-threatened us and insulted us for having an embassy.

[Roundball]

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Care to elaborate on how TBH is taking over Osiris?

As Devi pointed out its not a full obvious takeover. Rather it is a Council members and former council members leading conversations, many rank and file members in Osiris as citizens, Hawks in multiple positions across the region. As Devi has pointed out it isn't a whole takeover. But it's enough Black Hawks in the region to rile up the rest make things happen.

All the while Chief Hawk is supplying all of the propaganda and leaked chats needed to get everyone on their side.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Cute... But it IS unreasonable, as all they've done is ask for people to stop pushing them a way they don't want to go. Their region barely intermingles in gameplay, even. They haven't threaten anyone, they haven't mentioned any actions they are taking, etc. Literally, their whole post is "stop it, we don't care cuz TP hasn't harmed us".

So yeah, it SEEMS unreasonable, not unexpected tho: GP doesn't know what respect is. And this is not directed at Cormac, it was YOU who thought it was. It was directed at GP in general.

To whoever it fits, if you wish.

Right, I probably wouldn't have wrote the dispatch if multiple people hadn't semi-threatened us and insulted us for having an embassy.

Are you planning to prove any of this?

[Altinsane]

What's shameless is a member of the NPO and Legio Pacificus clearly pushing their 'Cormac is an ebil bully' agenda. It's almost as if you have a narrative to push yourself

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Oh my God, why didn't anyone tell me? Blacklist them!

Also #BullyCulture.

[Imperium of Josh]

Care to elaborate on how TBH is taking over Osiris?

As Devi pointed out its not a full obvious takeover. Rather it is a Council members and former council members leading conversations, many rank and file members in Osiris as citizens, Hawks in multiple positions across the region. As Devi has pointed out it isn't a whole takeover. But it's enough Black Hawks in the region to rile up the rest make things happen.

All the while Chief Hawk is supplying all of the propaganda and leaked chats needed to get everyone on their side.

Suuuuuuuure... Not really sure why this level of conspiracy crap is necessary when Osiris has a completely obvious casus belli. It's hardly like Osi have no reason to be involved in this, is it? We've got every reason to desire war and the like 2 people who happen to be in the government and in TBH aren't even close to the biggest proponents for war, let alone driving the conversation. Shit this dumb and pointless is laughable.

pats anonymous peep

[2SDOATS]

Hate to be the voice of reason but this threads close to being hijacked.

And this is coming from toads.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Care to elaborate on how TBH is taking over Osiris?

Guys I've got it.

What is the most noticeable member who exists within Osiris, TBH and Europeia all at the same time?
#Rachconspiracy

[Imperium of Josh]

Care to elaborate on how TBH is taking over Osiris?

Guys I've got it.

What is the most noticeable member who exists within Osiris, TBH and Europeia all at the same time?
#Rachconspiracy

She's clearly the greatest singular threat the NPO has ever known. So worrying that it has been tripping over itself to pretend to be changing

[Lord Dominator]

Care to elaborate on how TBH is taking over Osiris?

As Devi pointed out its not a full obvious takeover. Rather it is a Council members and former council members leading conversations, many rank and file members in Osiris as citizens, Hawks in multiple positions across the region. As Devi has pointed out it isn't a whole takeover. But it's enough Black Hawks in the region to rile up the rest make things happen.

All the while Chief Hawk is supplying all of the propaganda and leaked chats needed to get everyone on their side.

Woe betide those who want to do something that isn't raiding in a friendly region

[Saint Block]

Or even more likely, is Osiris pulling the puppet strings of TBH and Euro.

[Borovan entered the region as he]

What's shameless is a member of the NPO and Legio Pacificus clearly pushing their 'Cormac is an ebil bully' agenda. It's almost as if you have a narrative to push yourself

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Huh so that's why there's a few prominent raiders in the government or discord

[Imperium of Josh]

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Huh so that's why there's a few prominent raiders in the government or discord

Well it's either that or the fact that Osiris is the only overtly raider-aligned GCR...

[Bowzin]

Huh so that's why there's a few prominent raiders in the government or discord

Well it's either that or the fact that Osiris is the only overtly raider-aligned GCR...

Nope TBH = devil
we have taken over Osiris and its now our puppet region..

[Cormactopia Prime]

This conspiracy theory stuff about being run by and running other regions (all at the same time, mind you) must be what it's like to be Balder all the time.

[Imperium of Josh]

This conspiracy theory stuff about being run by and running other regions (all at the same time, mind you) must be what it's like to be Balder all the time.

Aw damn, I don't want to feel like Balder

[Galiantus III]

Galianutus’s discord server seems like a good starting point for a United coalition against the NPO. As far as I can tell, it’s the only meaninfgul effort put forward that has any medium of realistic potential to seeing the dismantling of The NPO from The Pacific.

There's actually a larger coalition effort outside my personal project to get more regions on board and make a statement. The Anti-Pacific Coalition has a feasible strategy and is committed to the long-term war effort. I am just trying to get people excited, and hopefully put a dent in NPO power in the process.

The guy has zero sense of operational security.

If the point is to reach as many people as possible, opsec is more a hindrance than anything. I'd also rather get 50-60 people out on New Year's Eve (and I feel confident I can get more) than limit myself to maybe 20 trustworthy people. What is the NPO going to do to us, anyways? All it takes is one person to know the time and place, so might as well let everyone know.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Anyone complaining about operational security at this stage of a conflict of this scale has no idea what they're even talking about.

[Consular]

There is growing evidence to support the idea that there are no Francoists left active in NationStates; only imperialists that pretend to be Francoists out of convenience.

Francoism, like every ideology created for games like NS, is a tool that is utilised for a specific end. It has always been a bit of a farce and a means of manipulating the masses towards a specific goal.

I’ve always found it bothersome and a bit disappointing that so many of the dealers started using their own product. Never drink your own kool-aid, kids.

See, this is why Ivan is my favourite NPO person.

[Raionitu]

What else is shameless is the apparent takeover of Osiris by The Black Hawks.

Oh my God, why didn't anyone tell me? Blacklist them!

Also #BullyCulture.

So since I’m apparently your boss now can you make me delegate? That’s how this works right?

Seriously though, saying we control because we leak the logs to incite people? They wouldn’t go to war if the logs hadn’t existed in the first place.

[Draganisia]

Oh my God, why didn't anyone tell me? Blacklist them!

Also #BullyCulture.

So since I’m apparently your boss now can you make me delegate? That’s how this works right?

Seriously though, saying we control because we leak the logs to incite people? They wouldn’t go to war if the logs hadn’t existed in the first place.

Right now I'm more amused that you all still think this is a war when the real truth is that there is nothing you can do to ever take down the NPO.

When will you learn that your "condemnation" changes nothing and even if you did it again and again it still changes nothing and never will.

This is over. You may have won the SC vote for the condemnation but you have lost the war and nothing will change that.

The Dragons of the Pacific are going back to sleep.

Don't bother waking us until you want to pose a real threat.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

So since I’m apparently your boss now can you make me delegate? That’s how this works right?

Seriously though, saying we control because we leak the logs to incite people? They wouldn’t go to war if the logs hadn’t existed in the first place.

Right now I'm more amused that you all still think this is a war when the real truth is that there is nothing you can do to ever take down the NPO.

When will you learn that your "condemnation" changes nothing and even if you did it again and again it still changes nothing and never will.

This is over. You may have won the SC vote for the condemnation but you have lost the war and nothing will change that.

The Dragons of the Pacific are going back to sleep.

Don't bother waking us until you want to pose a real threat.

I like how the goalpost are beginning to move from “we’ll destroy every military action TBH touched, and watch you lose and lose and lose... <said like two dozen times>” down to “what, you haven’t forcibly taken over a feeder yet in two and a half weeks? You’ve lost the war and we can go embrace inactivity” after you haven’t even tried to face us on the field once xD

[Vespertania]

Again, the "threat" -- if you can even realistically call it that -- was simply that our regions aren't likely to forget the disrespectful dispatch and accusation of "bribery," meaning we're not likely to want embassies with TWI in the future either. Given we don't have embassies now, that's really not much of a threat.

I'll also note this has nothing to do with TWI deciding not to close its embassy with the Pacific, and everything to do with the disrespect shown to our regions in that dispatch and subsequent Gameplay post. I genuinely couldn't care less whether TWI closes its embassy or not. Vancouvia can confirm, if they're interested, that I'm not among those who sent them a telegram asking for the embassy to be closed. I couldn't care less about that. I do care if regions I'm involved in are disrespected, accused of "bribery," etc. As would anyone. That's hardly controversial. So while your unhealthy obsession with what I'm doing is noted again, as usual you're trying to make something out of nothing. Now please return to doing what it is you do best, which is nothing at all.

Well, if there's no immediate and looming threat of destruction to the RP region, then my concerns are soothed.

[Kurnugia]

Right now I'm more amused that you all still think this is a war when the real truth is that there is nothing you can do to ever take down the NPO.

When will you learn that your "condemnation" changes nothing and even if you did it again and again it still changes nothing and never will.

This is over. You may have won the SC vote for the condemnation but you have lost the war and nothing will change that.

The Dragons of the Pacific are going back to sleep.

Don't bother waking us until you want to pose a real threat.

I like how the goalpost are beginning to move from “we’ll destroy every military action TBH touched, and watch you lose and lose and lose... <said like two dozen times>” down to “what, you haven’t forcibly taken over a feeder yet in two and a half weeks? You’ve lost the war and we can go embrace inactivity” after you haven’t even tried to face us on the field once xD

Now, I hope TBH is going to take over TP. That goalpost shift will be fascinating.