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The Peoples of Xaer
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Postby The Peoples of Xaer » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:40 pm

Saint Block wrote:You mad? :P

By your desperate efforts to make yourself relevant? It's just pathetic to watch at this point dude.

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Postby Saint Block » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:44 pm

I’m as relevant as I want to be. This war against the NPO would not even be half as exciting without my contributions. Consider me the guest of honour. :P
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Postby The Peoples of Xaer » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:53 pm

Saint Block wrote: Consider me the guest of honour. :P

Ah yes, backstabbing the NPO to try and score points with GP. How's that working out?

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Postby Saint Block » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:05 pm

Better than you can imagine, whoever you are. :D

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Postby Pierconium » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:45 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Pergamon wrote:The Order hereby recognizes a state of war between itself and The Black Hawks and is evaluating its diplomatic stance towards other regions at this time. Henceforth, the New Pacific Order will actively conduct military operations against TBH and its interests.

I've been told that this declaration is just a statement of a rogue member of the NPO government. Is that correct or has this been approved by the Delegate et al? Just curious. I see no reason to continue engaging with the material of the statement if it is not an actual NPO declaration of war.

In other words, Ivan and Xoriet, stop being ridiculous.

No, you are incorrect. This is the usual state of things so I won’t belabour the point.

Statements made by the Pacifican government have signatures. Most governmental statements in NationStates have signatures, especially when done by proxy. When they don’t have a signature and someone asks that it be confirmed by another member of government that second nation does not typically then sidestep the issue if it is an official statement. So it was just sloppy communication and poor diplomacy that led to any confusion regarding the Osiris declaration.

Sorry the NationStates Windmill Tilting Society couldn’t come up with a better argument.
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Postby Vespertania » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:23 am

St Abbaddon, what's it's main use for now? It used to cater to roleplay, but it looks like it's become just another trophy region. There's no maps or links to roleplay boards, and how many nations in that region actively RP? Is the reality that St Abbaddon just completely became absorbed into the New Pacific Order? Asking because i'm curious.
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Postby Bowzin » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:52 am

Vespertania wrote:St Abbaddon, what's it's main use for now? It used to cater to roleplay, but it looks like it's become just another trophy region. There's no maps or links to roleplay boards, and how many nations in that region actively RP? Is the reality that St Abbaddon just completely became absorbed into the New Pacific Order? Asking because i'm curious.

The fact that ~100 NPO puppets are in there endorsing still should show that it is somewhat of a trophy. Its what started the war, and theres no way NPO is gonna give it up.
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Postby Vespertania » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:14 am

Bowzin wrote:
Vespertania wrote:St Abbaddon, what's it's main use for now? It used to cater to roleplay, but it looks like it's become just another trophy region. There's no maps or links to roleplay boards, and how many nations in that region actively RP? Is the reality that St Abbaddon just completely became absorbed into the New Pacific Order? Asking because i'm curious.

The fact that ~100 NPO puppets are in there endorsing still should show that it is somewhat of a trophy. Its what started the war, and theres no way NPO is gonna give it up.


Thanks for answering. It's disappointing to learn that.

My current list of questions to anybody
St Abbaddon, what's it's main use now? I remember it used to cater to roleplay, so does it still do that?
How many nations in that region actively RP in the forum?
Is St Abbaddon dead, and if so will it ever be brought back to life?
Is it better to let the GCR die to be re-founded or keep it alive as a GCR, and keep it going in some state of existence?
Questions pointed towards the NPO
Why is there no regional map, forum board, or relevant links?
Was St Abbaddon completely absorbed into the New Pacific Order and it's RP community?
What's the New Pacific Order's future plans for the region?
Questions pointed toward the anti-NPO coalition thingy
What is the coalition's plans for St Abbaddon if it's taken from NPO control?
How many nations (main nations or active RP nations) would travel to St Abbaddon after this conflict?
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Postby Neo Domais » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:10 am

Vespertania wrote:
Bowzin wrote:The fact that ~100 NPO puppets are in there endorsing still should show that it is somewhat of a trophy. Its what started the war, and theres no way NPO is gonna give it up.


Thanks for answering. It's disappointing to learn that.

My current list of questions to anybody
St Abbaddon, what's it's main use now? I remember it used to cater to roleplay, so does it still do that?
How many nations in that region actively RP in the forum?
Is St Abbaddon dead, and if so will it ever be brought back to life?
Is it better to let the GCR die to be re-founded or keep it alive as a GCR, and keep it going in some state of existence?
Questions pointed towards the NPO
Why is there no regional map, forum board, or relevant links?
Was St Abbaddon completely absorbed into the New Pacific Order and it's RP community?
What's the New Pacific Order's future plans for the region?
Questions pointed toward the anti-NPO coalition thingy
What is the coalition's plans for St Abbaddon if it's taken from NPO control?
How many nations (main nations or active RP nations) would travel to St Abbaddon after this conflict?
Its a trophy region of the NPO. Not revealing our plans.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:44 pm

How does The Pacific intend to handle UCR trophies founded by Ale, Perg, etc?

When will Ale actually hand over the delegacy?
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Postby Horsell » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:20 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:When will Ale actually hand over the delegacy?

Get off his back, he'll hand over the delegacy once LoD has the proper amount of endorsements and you're not who decides what that amount is.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:53 pm

Horsell wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:When will Ale actually hand over the delegacy?

Get off his back, he'll hand over the delegacy once LoD has the proper amount of endorsements and you're not who decides what that amount is.

I think Souls was probably looking for an answer from someone actually from the NPO.

I'm also not sure why the hostility in response to a pretty simple question that wasn't asked in an at all aggressive manner...

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Postby Bowzin » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:02 pm

Horsell wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:When will Ale actually hand over the delegacy?

Get off his back, he'll hand over the delegacy once LoD has the proper amount of endorsements and you're not who decides what that amount is.

doesn't look to me like he was trying to decide the amount...it was a question not a demand
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:35 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:When will Ale actually hand over the delegacy?

Probably around the time Lord of Darkness learns how to tart, so we might be waiting a while at this rate.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:43 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:When will Ale actually hand over the delegacy?

Probably around the time Lord of Darkness learns how to tart, so we might be waiting a while at this rate.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:46 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:When will Ale actually hand over the delegacy?

Probably around the time Lord of Darkness learns how to tart, so we might be waiting a while at this rate.

If he'd like to give me his nation I can tart for him. I'll give it right back, Scout's honor.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:03 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Probably around the time Lord of Darkness learns how to tart, so we might be waiting a while at this rate.

If he'd like to give me his nation I can tart for him. I'll give it right back, Scout's honor.

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Postby Vespertania » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:31 pm

Probably not the best idea to write anything on this board asking other people for access to their nations, even sarcastically.
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Postby Vancouvia » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:44 pm

The Pacific Did Nothing Wrong (to Us)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1135539

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Postby Unibot III » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:58 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Probably around the time Lord of Darkness learns how to tart, so we might be waiting a while at this rate.

If he'd like to give me his nation I can tart for him. I'll give it right back, Scout's honor.


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Postby Draganisia » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:00 pm

Vancouvia wrote:The Pacific Did Nothing Wrong (to Us)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1135539


Ok that was one of the best dispatches I've read in a while.

And because of that everyone else here will probably hate it.

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Postby Borovan the Raider » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:13 pm

Draganisia wrote:
Vancouvia wrote:The Pacific Did Nothing Wrong (to Us)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1135539


Ok that was one of the best dispatches I've read in a while.

And because of that everyone else here will probably hate it.

Upvoted

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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:47 pm

Vancouvia wrote:The Pacific Did Nothing Wrong (to Us)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1135539

Cool beans

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Postby Yokiria » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:10 pm

Vancouvia wrote:The Pacific Did Nothing Wrong (to Us)

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=113553


I would like to address a portion of your dispatch.

The Pacific did nothing wrong, and The Western Isles has no qualms against them. Personally, I think coups/expanding to other regions is cool as hell and the best and most entertaining part of the worst part of this website - raiding/defending. The ability to use a little subterfuge and a lot of time to gain control of a GCR or other big region is impressive.


Your dispatch title claims that you are referring to the NPO's activities regarding your region, but in the above quote, you state your personal approval and support for the traitorous actions of the NPO against its former allies. You may emphasize the Western Isles' isolationist policies all you desire, Vancouvia, but you are failing to properly represent those policies, by writing a dispatch praising the widely-condemned acts of the NPO and advertising that dispatch here on the forums. Those are not actions of an isolationist. Those are actions of a UCR player attempting to insert themselves into the drama. Congratulations on succeeding.
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Postby Galiantus III » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:48 am

I understand this is a game, and conflict is interesting. OOC, it is kinda cool. However, in-charcter, this shows that TWI doesn't care that the NPO has been violating Lazarus' sovereignty. So, ICC, I have a pretty poor view of TWI.
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