Imperial Statement from the New Pacific Order

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

Hm, who else did that? Oh yeah. Defenders and the NPO.

The NPO never took any GCR for their own personal gain and the detriment of the GCR.

How's that application to join the NPO going?

[Klaus Devestatorie]

So when are y'all gonna get back to fighting on the avenue that represents your best hope of victory against the NPO?

[Galiantus III]

So when are y'all gonna get back to fighting on the avenue that represents your best hope of victory?

I just about died of laughter there. Ooooooh! Too perfect! Ha...

Yeah, if things go to plan the NPO had better pray for some open feeders that are primed and ready to sustain them.

[Louisistan]

Let's please not confuse the NPO's blatant imperialism as "turning defender", thanks.

[Old Hope]

Name one example.

Lazarus, The North Pacific, attempted to take Lazarus again, infiltrated Osiris and would have couped if possible...

The lazarus coup was a coup against a foreign controlled government by imperialists, because of necessity, with defenders.
The second laz coup was an attempt to get rid of the rest and the problem was not the coup, but it's failure.
I cannot say something about the Osiris infiltration because the full extent of the reasons, and indeed, of any unwarranted actions by the infiltrators, is not avaliable to me.
I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

[Frattastan IV]

I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

I'm positive that at the time of the coups in question TNP was a defender region, or as close to defender as you can get without being called one.

[Armaros]

Lazarus, The North Pacific, attempted to take Lazarus again, infiltrated Osiris and would have couped if possible...

The lazarus coup was a coup against a foreign controlled government by imperialists, because of necessity, with defenders.
The second laz coup was an attempt to get rid of the rest and the problem was not the coup, but it's failure.
I cannot say something about the Osiris infiltration because the full extent of the reasons, and indeed, of any unwarranted actions by the infiltrators, is not avaliable to me.
I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

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Diferent question: do you buy literally any piece of bullshit from the NPO? Sure looks like it.

[Kavagrad]

The lazarus coup was a coup against a foreign controlled government by imperialists, because of necessity, with defenders.
The second laz coup was an attempt to get rid of the rest and the problem was not the coup, but it's failure.
I cannot say something about the Osiris infiltration because the full extent of the reasons, and indeed, of any unwarranted actions by the infiltrators, is not avaliable to me.
I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

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Diferent question: do you buy literally any piece of bullshit from the NPO? Sure looks like it.

And Perg calls people outside of the NPO “worthless pawns”.

Don’t think he’s quite got it right.

[Old Hope]

The lazarus coup was a coup against a foreign controlled government by imperialists, because of necessity, with defenders.
The second laz coup was an attempt to get rid of the rest and the problem was not the coup, but it's failure.
I cannot say something about the Osiris infiltration because the full extent of the reasons, and indeed, of any unwarranted actions by the infiltrators, is not avaliable to me.
I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

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Diferent question: do you buy literally any piece of bullshit from the NPO? Sure looks like it.

Sorry. The raiders have been the main source of bullshit here. As if raiders being infiltrated would be anything problematic. Or undesirable.
If the purpose of your region is to infiltrate and destroy regions then infiltration and destruction of your region is entirely appropiate.
If you don't like this don't be raiders.
And the second source of bullshit is calling the NPO raiders, or raider-like. Does the NPO indiscriminately invade regions? No. Does the NPO try to destroy GCR`s? No. I am not saying that the NPO has always acted perfectly, but no one is perfect. Mistakes can and unfortunately will be made.
I know very well that it is easy to see the NPO as a great evil. But if you look closer the NPO is actually pursuing a legitimate goal.

[Drop Your Pants]

I know very well that it is easy to see the NPO as a great evil. But if you look closer the NPO is actually pursuing a legitimate goal.

Don't worry about it. Haft the regular posters here haven't a clue whats going on, they just want to be seen as part of the cool crowd.

[Cormactopia Prime]

I know very well that it is easy to see the NPO as a great evil. But if you look closer the NPO is actually pursuing a legitimate goal.

Don't worry about it. Haft the regular posters here haven't a clue whats going on, they just want to be seen as part of the cool crowd.

So you agree with what Old Hope has been saying regarding the NPO and attacking "raider regions," including other GCRs that... aren't raider regions?

[Galiantus III]

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Diferent question: do you buy literally any piece of bullshit from the NPO? Sure looks like it.

Sorry. The raiders have been the main source of bullshit here. As if raiders being infiltrated would be anything problematic. Or undesirable.
If the purpose of your region is to infiltrate and destroy regions then infiltration and destruction of your region is entirely appropiate.
If you don't like this don't be raiders.
And the second source of bullshit is calling the NPO raiders, or raider-like. Does the NPO indiscriminately invade regions? No. Does the NPO try to destroy GCR`s? No. I am not saying that the NPO has always acted perfectly, but no one is perfect. Mistakes can and unfortunately will be made.
I know very well that it is easy to see the NPO as a great evil. But if you look closer the NPO is actually pursuing a legitimate goal.

One does not 'accidentally' stir up a civil war in a foreign region. And in a way, it is a bigger problem that the NPO isn't indiscriminate.

[Adstravia]

Death to the NPO!

[Armaros]

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Diferent question: do you buy literally any piece of bullshit from the NPO? Sure looks like it.

Sorry. The raiders have been the main source of bullshit here. As if raiders being infiltrated would be anything problematic. Or undesirable.
If the purpose of your region is to infiltrate and destroy regions then infiltration and destruction of your region is entirely appropiate.
If you don't like this don't be raiders.
And the second source of bullshit is calling the NPO raiders, or raider-like. Does the NPO indiscriminately invade regions? No. Does the NPO try to destroy GCR`s? No. I am not saying that the NPO has always acted perfectly, but no one is perfect. Mistakes can and unfortunately will be made.
I know very well that it is easy to see the NPO as a great evil. But if you look closer the NPO is actually pursuing a legitimate goal.

Hahahhahahahahaha

Wait, you seem serious.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Alright so: raiders have been the main source of bullshit here? What? Second, "raiders being infiltrated"? Quit your NPO bullshit, Lazarus nor TNP or TSP had anything to do with raiders. Heck, TSP is even more leaning in the direction of defender. Next one: I nowhere called the NPO raiders lmfao. I said they sided with defenders. Does the NPO invade other regions? Yes. Does the NPO attempt to destroy GCRs? Yep.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

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Diferent question: do you buy literally any piece of bullshit from the NPO? Sure looks like it.

Sorry. The raiders have been the main source of bullshit here. As if raiders being infiltrated would be anything problematic. Or undesirable.
If the purpose of your region is to infiltrate and destroy regions then infiltration and destruction of your region is entirely appropiate.
If you don't like this don't be raiders.
And the second source of bullshit is calling the NPO raiders, or raider-like. Does the NPO indiscriminately invade regions? No. Does the NPO try to destroy GCR`s? No. I am not saying that the NPO has always acted perfectly, but no one is perfect. Mistakes can and unfortunately will be made.
I know very well that it is easy to see the NPO as a great evil. But if you look closer the NPO is actually pursuing a legitimate goal.

You stated the NPO was right to coup TNP at a time when TNP was essentially a defender region.

Either you don't know what you're talking or you're really really desperate to get accepted into the NPO

[Klaus Devestatorie]

I just about died of laughter there. Ooooooh! Too perfect! Ha...

Yeah, if things go to plan the NPO had better pray for some open feeders that are primed and ready to sustain them.

I've edited my post, because it apparently wasn't even clear what side I was directing that at.

[Malphe]

I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

So you mean to say you're speaking with such authority on all things NPO but you didn't even know about the TNP coup...?

[Old Hope]

I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

So you mean to say you're speaking with such authority on all things NPO but you didn't even know about the TNP coup...?

It happened when I was inactive, probably. And most of the things I said are readily and openly avaliable from information released to the public or equivalent.

[Cool Spring]

New Pacific Order delenda est, you fascist scum.

[Old Hope]

New Pacific Order delenda est, you fascist scum.

I ask you to immediately retract this statement.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

So you mean to say you're speaking with such authority on all things NPO but you didn't even know about the TNP coup...?

It happened when I was inactive, probably. And most of the things I said are readily and openly avaliable from information released to the public or equivalent.

It happened several years prior to the creation of your nation. This is public information and readily available.

[Old Hope]

It happened when I was inactive, probably. And most of the things I said are readily and openly avaliable from information released to the public or equivalent.

It happened several years prior to the creation of your nation. This is public information and readily available.

If it is that old I honestly don't care.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

It happened several years prior to the creation of your nation. This is public information and readily available.

If it is that old I honestly don't care.

So what you're actually saying is 'I am a NPO shill I hope they let me in' rather than actually giving a shit about even defender GCRs being couped by the NPO.

[McChimp]

Sorry. The raiders have been the main source of bullshit here. As if raiders being infiltrated would be anything problematic. Or undesirable.
If the purpose of your region is to infiltrate and destroy regions then infiltration and destruction of your region is entirely appropiate.
If you don't like this don't be raiders.
And the second source of bullshit is calling the NPO raiders, or raider-like. Does the NPO indiscriminately invade regions? No. Does the NPO try to destroy GCR`s? No. I am not saying that the NPO has always acted perfectly, but no one is perfect. Mistakes can and unfortunately will be made.
I know very well that it is easy to see the NPO as a great evil. But if you look closer the NPO is actually pursuing a legitimate goal.

Why are you bothering to join the NPO? It's obvious your beef is with raiders, you'd be better off joining TGW where you might actually make a minute difference.

None of what the NPO has done has been accidental-for years it has systematically undermined the sovereignty of the GCRs it supposedly holds sacred whether they were allies of the NPO or not.

[Unibot III]

I don't know anything about a coup attempt in TNP but from what I know about TNP I know that people with loyalities to raiders, including especially TBH, have significant influence in TNP. Unfortunately.

I'm positive that at the time of the coups in question TNP was a defender region, or as close to defender as you can get without being called one.

It was a ADN and an ALL member-region. Defender as they come. ALL organized Puppetmaster. The first sign of trouble was when UPS Rail called for TNP to leave the ADN.