St Abbaddon

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

I have noticed that some people, when discussing the Pacific in situations like this, say the Pacific follows an ideology called Francoism. Are they referring to the ideology of the former Spanish dictator, Francisco Franco, or are they referring to a different person named Franco?

They're following a different person. It is an ideology created/inspired by the nation Francos Spain, which is about the struggle of the feederite/GCR class against the userite class. There is a dispatch somewhere that explains more on this but it is inadequate by itself to clarify what it means.

[Vincent Drake]

I don't know how many defenders were involved but it only looks like a few but the problem is that there is a proxy war going on and if you have defenders piling against black hawks, you're going against the native topid. Most defenders seem to be sitting the past proxy war out so I don't get why the blame comes. Vincent Drake however is a prominent defender and it can be seen how this complicates things seeing that there's a deal with trust with defenders between the public and natives and he's firrst warden.

I honestly didn't know what was going on at first. I don't usually do minor update, so I came late, saw that stuff happened, and moved in assuming we were piling against TBH and co like what tends to happen when raiders miss a target and pile anyway. I left when it became clear that this wasn't about regular R/D. All of us sat out the rest. A native with foreign forces in a power struggle against other natives with other foreign forces is not really our thing. Defenders were an awkward third party in that situation.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I don't know how many defenders were involved but it only looks like a few but the problem is that there is a proxy war going on and if you have defenders piling against black hawks, you're going against the native topid. Most defenders seem to be sitting the past proxy war out so I don't get why the blame comes. Vincent Drake however is a prominent defender and it can be seen how this complicates things seeing that there's a deal with trust with defenders between the public and natives and he's firrst warden.

I honestly didn't know what was going on at first. I don't usually do minor update, so I came late, saw that stuff happened, and moved in assuming we were piling against TBH and co like what tends to happen when raiders miss a target and pile anyway. I left when it became clear that this wasn't about regular R/D. All of us sat out the rest. A native with foreign forces in a power struggle against other natives with other foreign forces is not really our thing. Defenders were an awkward third party in that situation.

Are TGW likely to take a position in the growing conflict?

[Minoa]

I cannot remember if something like this happened before, with so many regions declaring war against one region.

[Myrth]

I cannot remember if something like this happened before, with so many regions declaring war against one region.

I know, it's so exciting, it's like the good old days.

[Rivienland]

So, I'm trying to understand all this, and correct me if I'm wrong, but has St Abbaddon basically become the Franz Ferdinand of this world war? Because, now war has broken out with The Black Hawks, the Republic of Europeia, and Hartfelden all marching against the NPO. In addition, there's talk that Europe is in a period of political chaos following the motion to close their embassy with Europeia, as some argue that the founder of Europe is also in league with the NPO. This, and a whole wave of political intrigue is coming into the spotlight. A hundred years later, and I dare say it feels like NS is entering into its own version of WWI.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

So, I'm trying to understand all this, and correct me if I'm wrong, but has St Abbaddon basically become the Franz Ferdinand of this world war? Because, now war has broken out with The Black Hawks, the Republic of Europeia, and Hartfelden all marching against the NPO. In addition, there's talk that Europe is in a period of political chaos following the motion to close their embassy with Europeia, as some argue that the founder of Europe is also in league with the NPO. This, and a whole wave of political intrigue is coming into the spotlight. A hundred years later, and I dare say it feels like NS is entering into its own version of WWI.

You massively overestimate how much can actually happen here.

There's nothing to target on the coalition's side. They're foundered UCRs. The NPO has declared their intent to interfere with all TBH raids, but they won't be able to reach the pile barring a disastrous effect from that side.

On the other side, The NPO is a GCR with a massive number of endorsements on the delegate, quite unreachable by any theoretical update force. They have very few touchable friends, even, outside of their protectorate in St Abbaddon itself, and if the NPO was smart, they'd be advising that region to make alternative arrangements to get them out of the way and deny any future propaganda victory there.

Barring further intel work of the kind that fuelled the drama in the first place, the war is relegated to the diplomatic posturing that has already taken place. Expect to be very let down over the next few months.

[RiderSyl]

TIL that Avakael considers Osiris and TWP as UCRs

[Outer Sparta]

I'm not too well informed of the NPO or St. Abbaddon, but my region of Europe has seen some events because our founder, EuroFounder, is the same one as Myrth, with the latter being part of the NPO. I don't know how that bodes for Europe, considering we have withdrawn embassies with Europeia.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

TIL that Avakael considers Osiris and TWP as UCRs

TWP has merely terminated a treaty, not declared emnity iirc, and Osiris is probably just as uncoupable as the Pacific. But if you really want to volunteer Osiris to be an actual battleground for... whatever this rubbish is, I imagine the NPO can arrange something. Again.

[RiderSyl]

TIL that Avakael considers Osiris and TWP as UCRs

TWP has merely terminated a treaty, not declared emnity iirc, and Osiris is probably just as uncoupable as the Pacific. But if you really want to volunteer Osiris to be an actual battleground for... whatever this rubbish is, I imagine the NPO can arrange something. Again.

Apparently Osiris doesn't have to volunteer in order for the NPO to see it as nothing more than a battleground.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

TWP has merely terminated a treaty, not declared emnity iirc, and Osiris is probably just as uncoupable as the Pacific. But if you really want to volunteer Osiris to be an actual battleground for... whatever this rubbish is, I imagine the NPO can arrange something. Again.

Apparently Osiris doesn't have to volunteer in order for the NPO to see it as nothing more than a battleground.

I'm not NPO, but as previously indicated, I'm pretty clearly not on your hype train either.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

TWP has merely terminated a treaty, not declared emnity iirc, and Osiris is probably just as uncoupable as the Pacific. But if you really want to volunteer Osiris to be an actual battleground for... whatever this rubbish is, I imagine the NPO can arrange something. Again.

Apparently Osiris doesn't have to volunteer in order for the NPO to see it as nothing more than a battleground.

Nor, for that matter, does anywhere else; in fact even if places make it clear that they don't want the NPO to use them as battlegrounds...the NPO still uses them as battlegrounds. Largely because the NPO's rhetoric about GCR sovereignty is at best bullshit and at worst a smokescreen.

[RiderSyl]

Apparently Osiris doesn't have to volunteer in order for the NPO to see it as nothing more than a battleground.

I'm not NPO, but as previously indicated, I'm pretty clearly not on your hype train either.

I wasn't implying you're NPO. Dunno why you felt the need to clarify that.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

I'm not NPO, but as previously indicated, I'm pretty clearly not on your hype train either.

I wasn't implying you're NPO. Dunno why you felt the need to clarify that.

I read it as if you were, forgot about the infiltration stuff.