Embassy of Lazarus + News

[Tim]

Commendations to Lazarus for standing for regional sovereignty, and against raider subversive tactics.

[Tinhampton]

Commendations to Lazarus for standing for regional sovereignty, and against raider subversive tactics.

Lazarus has been militarily neutral since the establishment of LazCorp.

[Roavin]

Ironically, those complaining about a treaty repeal..... were the same ones who were content to let the Celestial Union burn to the ground. Interesting to me.

This ^

[Unibot III]

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Lazarus Release on Repeal of the Treaty of the Sun

As many know Lazarus stands firm with a neutral stance when it comes to the world around it. The events that have transpired recently does not change our official stance. After the events of Operation Ragnarok the government of Lazarus felt it needed to do something in response to Osiris’s unwillingness to budge on their allies The Brotherhood of Malice. The Brotherhood of Malice’s behavior has been very unbecoming of a raider organization as of late, so it was felt best to distance Lazarus from potential liabilities that may have arisen. It has been the consistent policy of Lazarus since Imkiville became Delegate to seek to avoid foreign conflicts or disputes with other regions where possible.

We chose to seek the route of revising the current Treaty of the Sun to make it more acceptable to our other regional friends and partners, while retaining our good ties with Osiris. However, after long negotiations with Osiris it has become apparent that we can’t come to terms that both Lazarus and Osiris can feel comfortable with.

This being said I have officially tonight started the discussion followed by the vote to Repeal the Treaty of the Sun and cut all ties with our sister region. This has not come as an easy decision by any means, but I feel this is in the best interest of Lazarus at this time.

Managing Director Extrememeasures

Why should Osiris care…?

Lazarus has already dropped its war with the Empire that subverted its leadership twice. Killer Kitty, too, is still around and kicking in Lazarus.

Osiris might as well begin pre-writing the reconciliation press release for a year from now when Lazarus wants to make up. Lazarus, like old Osiris, invests more of its energy into absolving its enemies than rebuilding itself.

[WayNeacTia]

Commendations to Lazarus for standing for regional sovereignty, and against raider subversive tactics.

You're a fine one to talk about "regional sovereignty". I will hand it to you though, I never thought I would see an imperialist successfully colonize another imperialist, but here we are....

Why should Osiris care…?

I don't speak on behalf of the government, but imho we really shouldn't. It's not like Laz did fuck all to help Osiris when it was couped how many times?

[Ikania]

Wayne, I don’t know if you realize this, but if Lazarus had helped Osiris fight either of the two coups in its history, the only other outcome would have been that the OFO was destroyed, or in the case of 2016, preserved as a non-raider democracy. Are you implying that Laz should have been there to prevent the takeover of the Brotherhood of Malice, your own organization? Osiris has been couped twice since the end of the KRO, both times by your ideological allies.

[WayNeacTia]

Wayne, I don’t know if you realize this, but if Lazarus had helped Osiris fight either of the two coups in its history, the only other outcome would have been that the OFO was destroyed, or in the case of 2016, preserved as a non-raider democracy. Are you implying that Laz should have been there to prevent the takeover of the Brotherhood of Malice, your own organization? Osiris has been couped twice since the end of the KRO, both times by your ideological allies.

No. I was merely pointing out hypocrisy. I wasn't a member of the OFO, or Malice back then.

Edit: I'm still not a member of the OFO. I reside on Osiris, because it is where I refounded and I was too lazy to move to another region. It was Tim and Q's incessant fucking gloating that drove me to Malice, or there is a chance I may have been swayed to your side.

[Quebecshire]

It was Tim and Q's incessant fucking gloating that drove me to Malice, or there is a chance I may have been swayed to your side.

Since you're throwing this out as a little propaganda line at Tim and I, I feel the need to call bullshit. Months before Malice your rhetoric about defenders was deluded and conspiratorial, such as claiming sieges like Trovons were false flags, et cetera. In my entire time as a gameplayer you've never done anything on these forums other than be generally abrasive and provide exceedingly ignorant commentary on whatever is going on. Do you even do anything for Malice other than pile? I can't remember the last time I chased you.

I don't think we're sad about missing out on defender Wayne (as if that was ever going to happen and you're not just using it as a snipe here).

[WayNeacTia]

It was Tim and Q's incessant fucking gloating that drove me to Malice, or there is a chance I may have been swayed to your side.

Since you're throwing this out as a little propaganda line at Tim and I, I feel the need to call bullshit. Months before Malice your rhetoric about defenders was deluded and conspiratorial, such as claiming sieges like Trovons were false flags, et cetera. In my entire time as a gameplayer you've never done anything on these forums other than be generally abrasive and provide exceedingly ignorant commentary on whatever is going on. Do you even do anything for Malice other than pile? I can't remember the last time I chased you.

I don't think we're sad about missing out on defender Wayne (as if that was ever going to happen and you're not just using it as a snipe here).

Trovons was a false flag operation as much as you fantasize it wasn't. I can smell through bullshit a mile away, and there wasn't any real effort to cover up the smell on that one. As for Malice? I'm a piler, due to the fact I fucking hate spammers, and that is what tags are. It was you and Tim that drove me there with your incessant need to be the centre of attention. I would have been quite happy to stay neutral and continue armchair commentary as I could care less about R/D. There are defenders I do respect, because they just go out and do their shit and shut the fuck up about it. Try looking past your own nose once and a while and you might actually see the bigger picture.....

[Comfed]

Commendations to Lazarus for standing for regional sovereignty, and against raider subversive tactics.

Lazarus has been militarily neutral since the establishment of LazCorp.

Neutrality doesn't mean standing for subversion.

[New Rogernomics]

Lazarus has been militarily neutral since the establishment of LazCorp.

Neutrality doesn't mean standing for subversion.

Let's be fair, Lazarus or what it is, doesn't really matter to those that want to vent, it is just that we were one of the last GCR to cut ties, so their fortress mentality is pushed into overdrive.

Nothing Lazarus said hasn't been said way more forcibly so by many other regions, and is probably mild by comparison, since it didn't say Osiris was run by BoM, maybe they want to prove it is by all this talk of raider unity because a neutral region doesn't want to be involved in their R/D battles.

I guess we need to get out the dictionary, because some don't know what neutrality means:

Definition of neutrality
: the quality or state of being neutral
especially : refusal to take part in a war between other powers
The country adopted an official policy of neutrality.

Though regions can also choose to be neutral because of their own regional sovereignty, which is very much what Lazarus is doing. We have no interest in being a vassal state or a chess piece that goes after Osiris' enemies. Certainly, when we signed an alliance with them, Osiris wasn't expected to be engaged in conflict or major disputes with other GCRs.

[USS Merrimack]

Commendations to Lazarus for standing for regional sovereignty, and against raider subversive tactics.

Lazarus has been militarily neutral since the establishment of LazCorp.

Doesn’t mean they have to give in to raider subversion.

And given raider subversion handed Lazarus institutional damage that has lasted for about 5 years, I do not blame them.

[Tim-Opolis]

Since you're throwing this out as a little propaganda line at Tim and I, I feel the need to call bullshit. Months before Malice your rhetoric about defenders was deluded and conspiratorial, such as claiming sieges like Trovons were false flags, et cetera. In my entire time as a gameplayer you've never done anything on these forums other than be generally abrasive and provide exceedingly ignorant commentary on whatever is going on. Do you even do anything for Malice other than pile? I can't remember the last time I chased you.

I don't think we're sad about missing out on defender Wayne (as if that was ever going to happen and you're not just using it as a snipe here).

Trovons was a false flag operation as much as you fantasize it wasn't. I can smell through bullshit a mile away, and there wasn't any real effort to cover up the smell on that one. As for Malice? I'm a piler, due to the fact I fucking hate spammers, and that is what tags are. It was you and Tim that drove me there with your incessant need to be the centre of attention. I would have been quite happy to stay neutral and continue armchair commentary as I could care less about R/D. There are defenders I do respect, because they just go out and do their shit and shut the fuck up about it. Try looking past your own nose once and a while and you might actually see the bigger picture.....

I'm truly shaking in my boots at the thought of legendary raider Wayneactia's piling ability.

Well, at the very least, with nonsensical takes like Trovons being a false flag you fit right into the BoM culture.

[The Church of Satan]

Lazarus has been militarily neutral since the establishment of LazCorp.

Doesn’t mean they have to give in to raider subversion.

And given raider subversion handed Lazarus institutional damage that has lasted for about 5 years, I do not blame them.

Among all the regions cutting ties with Osiris, Lazarus is the only one doing it for a valid reason. This whole thing over Balder and Malice was just coincidental. Seems to me that they would have done so even if nothing was going on anyways.

[Frattastan IV]

The Brotherhood of Malice’s behavior has been very unbecoming of a raider organization as of late,

Well, that's a strange phrase for sure.

[Libertanny]

With Ellenburg and Suvmia at the wheel, I have nothing but high hopes for Lazarus. Hopefully this dynamic duo can take Lazarus to new heights, and I am very excited for its future.

Until it is couped again.

From what I know, Lazarus is allied to The North Pacific, Caer Sidi, and The West Pacific. Regarding diplomatic relations with significant regions, they have TSP, TEP, XKI, TRR, Balder, and FNR.

Osiris, in terms of any significant regions/organizations, is allied only to The Black Hawks. Additionally, Osiris has successfully managed to gain a lot of enemies recently - those enemies being both players and regions.

I urge you to reconsider which sinker should be afraid of the outcome of any coup.

Also, congratulations to Lazarus for this decision.

[Madjack]

I think the idea that any GCR would actively take part in a coup of Osiris is bordering on the absurd.

[Libertanny]

I agree - the idea of any GCR currently participating on either side in a case of coup is bordering absurd.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I think the idea that any GCR would actively take part in a coup of Osiris is bordering on the absurd.

In that case y'all might want to start asking Quebec questions like "protection from whom?" and "what goals?" because he sure seems to think the odds of him getting enough endos to threaten Osiris have gone up vis-a-vis recent events.

I don’t know how anyone can look at the last ~2 weeks in Osiran foreign standing and conclude you’re "thriving" - it’s frankly a fascinating level to delusion to argue that. You’ve lost your oldest alliance, the one which provided you a lot of your connections and protection under Pax Polaris Occidens, as well as every other GCR relationship save an NAP with TRR.

It’s honestly the largest setback a GCR (or possibly any region) has incurred since the New Pacific Order in 2018. I would encourage some introspection, but your continued behavior and attitude only stands to benefit my goals and further vindicate me, so by all means, continue.

[Quebecshire]

Everything in that post is objectively true regardless of what you think I have on my agenda. Considering Koth’s immediate reaction to the Pax announcement was to note that the protection blanket included OFO via TWP, it’s clearly a loss of something that at least some raiders recognized as relevant.

I’m also not sure what it has to do with MJ’s comment. Nobody thinks the GCRs are gonna enact or aid a coup of Osiris - but it is objectively true that none of them* are obligated to fight for it, notably Pax signatories.

*Pending Lazarus repeal

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Everything in that post is objectively true regardless of what you think I have on my agenda. Considering Koth’s immediate reaction to the Pax announcement was to note that the protection blanket included OFO via TWP, it’s clearly a loss of something that at least some raiders recognized as relevant.

I’m also not sure what it has to do with MJ’s comment. Nobody thinks the GCRs are gonna enact or aid a coup of Osiris - but it is objectively true that none of them* are obligated to fight for it, notably Pax signatories.

*Pending Lazarus repeal

So the handful of GCR statements that declare Osiris to be basically just another raider region, just another threat to regional sovereignty, made by regions who've expressing policy+plenty of willingness to take action against precisely that sort of region, should not have those 2 dots connected?

Edit: Besides, we all know you don't "aid a coup," but rather "recognize a new legitimate government of Osiris and aid in establishing their regional security, ensuring their sovereignty" in diplo-speak =P

[Quebecshire]

Everything in that post is objectively true regardless of what you think I have on my agenda. Considering Koth’s immediate reaction to the Pax announcement was to note that the protection blanket included OFO via TWP, it’s clearly a loss of something that at least some raiders recognized as relevant.

I’m also not sure what it has to do with MJ’s comment. Nobody thinks the GCRs are gonna enact or aid a coup of Osiris - but it is objectively true that none of them* are obligated to fight for it, notably Pax signatories.

*Pending Lazarus repeal

So the handful of GCR statements that declare Osiris to be basically just another raider region, just another threat to regional sovereignty, made by regions who've expressing policy+plenty of willingness to take action against precisely that sort of region, should not have those 2 dots connected?

You’re more than free to invent this imaginary fantasy land where the GCRs are going to raid Osiris or whatever, but something tells me it’s slightly off base from reality. You’re among the least credible people want it comes to GCR sovereignty, anyway, so I suggest you find someone else to attempt this spin for you.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

So the handful of GCR statements that declare Osiris to be basically just another raider region, just another threat to regional sovereignty, made by regions who've expressing policy+plenty of willingness to take action against precisely that sort of region, should not have those 2 dots connected?

You’re more than free to invent this imaginary fantasy land where the GCRs are going to raid Osiris or whatever, but something tells me it’s slightly off base from reality. You’re among the least credible people want it comes to GCR sovereignty, anyway, so I suggest you find someone else to attempt this spin for you.

If I had an endo for each of your favorite fallacies, I might actually be a threat to GCR sovereignty - as opposed to the reality, where funny enough, the only GCR I've actually plotted against was TP, yknow after the third time that they promised to stop infiltrating TBH after diplomatic talks and then did it again, and almost every GCR was along for that ride for a while. Elsewhere, well, TSP's own court ruled in my favor for my non-participation in McMannia's intelligence-gathering there, I sure didn't help Scar's attempted coup of a feeder, I helped Cormac/Miniluv *publish* TP's attempts against Laz, and if you go back far enough, my very first GP actions (and regional bans!) were fighting the MiloCoup in TSP!

[Quebecshire]

You’re more than free to invent this imaginary fantasy land where the GCRs are going to raid Osiris or whatever, but something tells me it’s slightly off base from reality. You’re among the least credible people want it comes to GCR sovereignty, anyway, so I suggest you find someone else to attempt this spin for you.

If I had an endo for each of your favorite fallacies, I might actually be a threat to GCR sovereignty - as opposed to the reality, where funny enough, the only GCR I've actually plotted against was TP, yknow after the third time that they promised to stop infiltrating TBH after diplomatic talks and then did it again, and almost every GCR was along for that ride for a while. Elsewhere, well, TSP's own court ruled in my favor for my non-participation in McMannia's intelligence-gathering there, I sure didn't help Scar's attempted coup of a feeder, I helped Cormac/Miniluv *publish* TP's attempts against Laz, and if you go back far enough, my very first GP actions (and regional bans!) were fighting the MiloCoup in TSP!

Your history of antagonism against the South Pacific is well documented, and the Red Phone leaks obliterated any plausible deniability you have on the matter. But I digress, your telegrams attempting to undermine the legitimate delegate of the Pacific went until March 2021, well beyond any reasonable timeframe.

But I have a question, my friend, one which is more recent and topical. As mentioned in my article, I was informed you would have been able to view the first version of the Operation Ragnarok channel, so total obliviousness isn't really an option, but why don't you tell gameplay how much you knew about that?

Whether we'll believe you is another story, but I'm sure it's one we'd love to hear.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

If I had an endo for each of your favorite fallacies, I might actually be a threat to GCR sovereignty - as opposed to the reality, where funny enough, the only GCR I've actually plotted against was TP, yknow after the third time that they promised to stop infiltrating TBH after diplomatic talks and then did it again, and almost every GCR was along for that ride for a while. Elsewhere, well, TSP's own court ruled in my favor for my non-participation in McMannia's intelligence-gathering there, I sure didn't help Scar's attempted coup of a feeder, I helped Cormac/Miniluv *publish* TP's attempts against Laz, and if you go back far enough, my very first GP actions (and regional bans!) were fighting the MiloCoup in TSP!

Your history of antagonism against the South Pacific is well documented, and the Red Phone leaks obliterated any plausible deniability you have on the matter. But I digress, your telegrams attempting to undermine the legitimate delegate of the Pacific went until March 2021, well beyond any reasonable timeframe.

But I have a question, my dear friend, one which is more recent and topical. As mentioned in my article, I was informed you would have been able to view the first version of the Operation Ragnarok channel, so total obliviousness isn't really an option, but why don't you tell gameplay how much you knew about that?

Whether we'll believe you is another story, but I'm sure it's one we'd love to hear.

Obliterated them so bad that TSP's court said they didn't show any evidence I acted against TSP, shocker. They actually show me quit vehemently stating that as much as I'd have loved to see TSP under new management, I could never stand being around most of the permanent government members long enough to do anything on that line of thought.

Now see, the problem with your question is that it's asking an impossibility - the situation was that primarily Rax was working with a few folks interested in infiltration/intel work, with a range of a half dozen or dozen potential regions of interest (mainly that had already begun acting against us, which includes Balder, who'd been libbing for a bit already), and a scope along the lines of "this is just seeding some things, doing some intel gathering, fact finding, see where it goes - nothing may come of any of this, it might not go anywhere, that's how it works." When one of those eager participants then switched sides and leaked (major side-switching no-no!) at some point over the several weeks between then and your publishing, you then cherrypicked bits, smushed them together with some public joking, and wove together a narrative of a narrowly targeted, very specific coup plot against Balder that simply did not exist, then dropped it at an incredibly convenient time politically. So, simply put - I can't know about something you made up.