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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:56 pm
by Solorni
Hear hear! Also, your symbol is AMAZING :)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:57 pm
by Lazarene Ryccia
A wise statement with wise, professional and civilized restraint. We are being more than generous to our aggressor. I am glad Lazarus is standing up for itself as a truly sovereign and independent region, free from malevolent and foreign powers like the NPO. This is only a marvelous decision, and a correct course of action for Lazarus.

Also, I love the coat of arms. Elegant and beautiful. Yet again, Imki shows her natural talents as the Goddess of Art.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:01 pm
by Myrth
Surprise of the century. Next up on the NS News Network: dog bites man.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:19 pm
by Aynia Moreaux
Nothing less than what should be demanded, and very well worded.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:19 pm
by Ambrella
Myrth wrote:Surprise of the century. Next up on the NS News Network: dog bites man.

A true surprise would be a competent response from the NPO government to the legitimate concerns of all of these regions.

A well-reasoned statement from the government of Lazarus.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:21 pm
by Of The Toads
Ambrella wrote:
Myrth wrote:Surprise of the century. Next up on the NS News Network: dog bites man.

A true surprise would be a competent response from the NPO government to the legitimate concerns of all of these regions.

A well-reasoned statement from the government of Lazarus.


A region of any kind owes no one anything, even if its a region you do and or dont like.

i mean you are basically saying DO WHAT WE SAY CAUSE YOU GOT CAUGHT PULLING A MOVE WE WOULD PULL TO!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:26 pm
by Galiantus III
Of The Toads wrote:
Ambrella wrote:A true surprise would be a competent response from the NPO government to the legitimate concerns of all of these regions.

A well-reasoned statement from the government of Lazarus.


A region of any kind owes no one anything, even if its a region you do and or dont like.

i mean you are basically saying DO WHAT WE SAY CAUSE YOU GOT CAUGHT PULLING A MOVE WE WOULD PULL TO!*

*citation needed

If you truly have evidence of Lazarus trying to subvert another GCR, go ahead and pull it out. We're all waiting...

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:30 pm
by The NAtion OF Froggy
Galiantus III wrote:
Of The Toads wrote:
A region of any kind owes no one anything, even if its a region you do and or dont like.

i mean you are basically saying DO WHAT WE SAY CAUSE YOU GOT CAUGHT PULLING A MOVE WE WOULD PULL TO!*

*citation needed

If you truly have evidence of Lazarus trying to subvert another GCR, go ahead and pull it out. We're all waiting...


No, I am saying they dont have to issue a statement you like just because you hound them to, they dont have to make a statement competent or satirical. You are basically hitting a brick wall with a pen saying make a better statement... I dont ever recalling there was a galactic law saying they owe GP or anyone anything. I could care less what happens In or To any region. well... thats not truth as I have always called an end to raiding and defending but.. that point is moot.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:34 pm
by Kurnugia
The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
Galiantus III wrote:*citation needed

If you truly have evidence of Lazarus trying to subvert another GCR, go ahead and pull it out. We're all waiting...


No, I am saying they dont have to issue a statement you like just because you hound them to, they dont have to make a statement competent or satirical. You are basically hitting a brick wall with a pen saying make a better statement... I dont ever recalling there was a galactic law saying they owe GP or anyone anything. I could care less what happens In or To any region. well... thats not truth as I have always called an end to raiding and defending but.. that point is moot.

No one owes anyone anything. Just don't wonder when everyone thinks you're a backstabber when you run covert ops in your "allies" and "friends".

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:39 pm
by The NAtion OF Froggy
Kurnugia wrote:
The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
No, I am saying they dont have to issue a statement you like just because you hound them to, they dont have to make a statement competent or satirical. You are basically hitting a brick wall with a pen saying make a better statement... I dont ever recalling there was a galactic law saying they owe GP or anyone anything. I could care less what happens In or To any region. well... thats not truth as I have always called an end to raiding and defending but.. that point is moot.

No one owes anyone anything. Just don't wonder when everyone thinks you're a backstabber when you run covert ops in your "allies" and "friends".


Its nationstates.. Someone will always think that paranoia here is like second hat.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:44 pm
by Galiantus III
The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
Galiantus III wrote:*citation needed

If you truly have evidence of Lazarus trying to subvert another GCR, go ahead and pull it out. We're all waiting...


No, I am saying they dont have to issue a statement you like just because you hound them to, they dont have to make a statement competent or satirical. You are basically hitting a brick wall with a pen saying make a better statement... I dont ever recalling there was a galactic law saying they owe GP or anyone anything. I could care less what happens In or To any region. well... thats not truth as I have always called an end to raiding and defending but.. that point is moot.


Okay, fine. You don't owe Lazarus anything. However, the NPO was caught trying to manipulate, control, and overthrow Lazarus, and if they don't meet our demands things will escalate further. You do something wrong, the expectation is you will make reparations. You don't make reparations, and we will use force until you do. The fact that the NPO is unwilling to issue apologies to us or other affected regions, while putting on a show of musical chairs for the natives of the Pacific, is proof that the NPO has no intentions of changing, and thus continues to exist as a threat to Lazarus and other regions. Don't expect the NPO to be making friends anytime soon if they don't show some signs of genuine change.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:10 pm
by New Rogernomics
The NAtion OF Froggy wrote:
Kurnugia wrote:No one owes anyone anything. Just don't wonder when everyone thinks you're a backstabber when you run covert ops in your "allies" and "friends".


Its nationstates.. Someone will always think that paranoia here is like second hat.
The discussion should be about our current statement, not a conspiracy theory. If you want to make a conspiracy theory, you can do your own thread on the subject. But that isn't what we are discussing here. :blink:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:21 pm
by King Bradley
This was a very level handed response to NPO aggression. I look forward to seeing what my former home of Lazarus will do if the NPO doesn’t make appropriate reparations.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:25 pm
by Consular
Myrth wrote:Surprise of the century. Next up on the NS News Network: dog bites man.

Funny -- This was pretty much my response to the NPO getting caught with its hand in the cookie jar yet again. You guys are incapable of not lying, eh?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:18 pm
by Cormactopia Prime
I'm pleased to see Lazarus standing up for itself and telling the NPO and the world it won't be kicked around anymore. Imki is showing she is in fact the leader Lazarus needs, despite the skepticism that has come from some quarters of the game. Someone needed to stand up for Lazarus, and she has.

As for the NPO, if it doesn't meet Lazarus' very reasonable demands, then I hope to see Lazarus joining the cause of NPO delenda est.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:15 pm
by Armaros
A great statement, and one I wholeheartedly support. NPO delenda est!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:51 pm
by New Rogernomics
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The Official Newspaper of Lazarus
Issue 3 • November 2018 •1 Page



Editorial:
LAZARUS CONTINUES RISING, NPO DISCUSSIONS
By New Rogernomics
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This month, Lazarus continued to work upon it's forum and discord community, with some discussions about appointing official endorsees of the delegate, and the eventual development of a military or militia for the defense of the region. Lazarus is also coming to terms with allegations over the NPO in Lazarus and elsewhere, with discussion in discord and the forum about the response of Lazarus to this developing incident.

You can read the official statement of Lazarus on the NPO here: Statement on the NPO
 
News:
NEW POLITICAL APPOINTMENTS
By New Rogernomics
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Ryccia was recently appointed as Public Relations Vice Director, this position is equivalent to Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, for those still getting used to the new LazCorp theme in the region. We wish Ryccia the best in the new role. 
 
News:
'CONDEMN THE PACIFIC' RESOLUTION IN
By New Rogernomics
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In other news, the Condemn The Pacific Resolution is now in the queue of the World Assembly Security Council. This resolution seeks to condemn the past and more recent activities of the New Pacific Order, and as well as some actions and organization of the government of the NPO, and many of it's members. The text of this resolution can be found here: Condemn The Pacific
 
Commentary:
The LAZCORP THEME
By New Rogernomics
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Lazarus recently introduced the LazCorp theme, making residents employees of the company, and citizens into 'shareholders', and the region is gradually transitioning into a GCR Mega Corp with a team of lawyers ready to protect it's interests. Recently LazCorp's attempted acquisition of Lone Wolves United failed despite the best attempts of LazCorp, and it was reported that a team of lawyers would respond, supposedly to this attempt of undue interference in the market. 
 
Opinion:
LAZARUS AND THE NPO
By New Rogernomics
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The leaks detailed in The Miniluv Messenger articles "The Same Old Pacific Order", and "Explosive Leaks from Within the NPO!" have unraveled many years of history throughout Nationstates, bringing new light into the New Pacific Order's conduct in the Feeders and Sinkers, and throughout the game in general. It also gives new insight into how some members of the New Pacific Order have seen the game, and their place in it. At least from the initial scope, it does look like a public relations nightmare for the New Pacific Order, even whether you agree with them as a government, or you are supportive of their affairs. 

From the looks of the allegations, during more recent times of 'Task Force Lazarus', the NPO set up a goal of destabilizing Lazarus, and removing alleged bad elements, namely 'Userites', and perhaps eventually doing what it couldn't with the New Pacific Order, which was to make Lazarus some kind of puppet state directly led in secret or publicly by the New Pacific Order, as we can read here in the released logs, from a Miniluv Messenger article: The Same Old Pacific Order
"Ark: Update: We pissed off funk so much he unmasked me as an archbishop.
Ark: I consider this a win, ironically.(edited)
Aleisyr: Yay? lol
Ark: The plan is basically to be such a thorn in his side that he decides couping is the only remaining option."

This took advantage of the existing factional divisions of Lazarus, which had been developing for years over disagreement of policy, with everything from disagreements over R/D, the organization of the government, to even more serious concerns over Funkadelia's Delegacy. Effectively working to turn Funkadelia, Lamb, and Killer Kitty, against long term natives like Harmoneia, and general defender elements in the region. 

In addition, it was discovered that in violation of Celestial Union and Humane Republic of Lazarus law, Stujenske had entered Lazarus under a new name of Kowassati, and operating at the highest levels of Lazarene government, and at one point holding the Delegacy. Whether this was at the discretion of the New Pacific Order government, or an independent action of Stujenske, we may never know the full details of. 

It will surely take a while to look back into Lazarene history, as it goes all the way back to the People's Republic of Lazarus, which on the urging of the New Pacific Order (which was totally unknown to most in Lazarus), removed long-term natives of Lazarus that were perceived as a threat to it's future operations, due to their ties with some UCR regions such as The Land of Kings and Emperors, or because of their ties to raider groups.  

Disclaimer: This article was opinion, and as such is the view of a private citizen, and not the official position of Lazarus or it's government.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:54 pm
by Solorni
This was a pretty cool update, it is good to see Lazarus doing well and it is interesting to hear that Lazarus is going for a corporate type of theme. One question though; has the upcoming Stellaris DLC "MegaCorp" influenced this theme? xD

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:55 pm
by New Rogernomics
Solorni wrote:This was a pretty cool update, it is good to see Lazarus doing well and it is interesting to hear that Lazarus is going for a corporate type of theme. One question though; has the upcoming Stellaris DLC "MegaCorp" influenced this theme? xD
No, but I will be getting that when it comes out. :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:56 pm
by Feux
Lol let me give you the "full details" you may "never know," Stu was not working for the NPO.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:05 pm
by Frattastan IV
Feux wrote:Lol let me give you the "full details" you may "never know," Stu was not working for the NPO.


Given his track record considering him capable of "independent action" may be a bit daring, though.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:06 pm
by New Rogernomics
Feux wrote:Lol let me give you the "full details" you may "never know," Stu was not working for the NPO.
And can you prove that? The thing about allegations, is that both sides have to prove their side of the story. :p

I purposefully left that open. If you want to post something that proves otherwise, you can feel free to do so.

Or if you want to publish some counter-opinion in next months issue, I guess I could include that.

*not subtly hints that the Gazette is low in content from outside contributors*

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:08 pm
by Cormactopia Prime
New Rogernomics wrote:Or if you want to publish some counter-opinion in next months issue, I guess I could include that.

I wouldn't, if I were you. Adytus was a dreadfully bad writer.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:14 pm
by Lazarene Ryccia
Excellent issue! Seeing Lazarene media is always nice, is it not?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:16 pm
by Feux
Frattastan IV wrote:
Feux wrote:Lol let me give you the "full details" you may "never know," Stu was not working for the NPO.


Given his track record considering him capable of "independent action" may be a bit daring, though.

He has always worked for me. I'm surprised this is not obvious to everyone already. Stu does what I tell him, and always has. Even when we passed Mandate 7, do you think Stu wrote that? At the time, I gave it to him so he could pass a more authoritarian mandate while keeping my name largely not associated with it. Even the NLO was my design, and was only carried out under the impression I was to be made Emperor shortly thereafter. Stu has always been about what I want. I started a separate project to take over regions, brought my crew, Stu, AMOM, etc, and you all went to war with the NPO over it. So this has all been pretty fucking hilarious.

Lol, here is Corn will more insult logic. Sad and weak.