Embassy of Lazarus + News

[Aav Verinhall]

From the Foreign Affairs Ministry of The West Pacific

In The West Pacific, we whole heartily support the natural game mechanics otherwise known as: Max's Law. Therefore we view the sitting Delegate of LWU legitimate and the Lazcorp Government as the recognized government of Lone Wolves United.

Furthermore, a we view our in-game embassy with LWU as an important obligation and we will defend the Lazcorp government with all of our resolve.

Does that mean that if I were to raid TWP, and coup the government, that you would then recognize me as the legitimate delegate?
Wait. I can already guess your answer. "GCRs are different."
Perhaps you can change your entire attitude, and recognize the original delegate as the actual delegate. It pains me to say this, but I agree with the stance that TSP has taken.

[Syberis]

From the Foreign Affairs Ministry of The West Pacific

In The West Pacific, we whole heartily support the natural game mechanics otherwise known as: Max's Law. Therefore we view the sitting Delegate of LWU legitimate and the Lazcorp Government as the recognized government of Lone Wolves United.

Furthermore, a we view our in-game embassy with LWU as an important obligation and we will defend the Lazcorp government with all of our resolve.

Does that mean that if I were to raid TWP, and coup the government, that you would then recognize me as the legitimate delegate?
Wait. I can already guess your answer. "GCRs are different."
Perhaps you can change your entire attitude, and recognize the original delegate as the actual delegate. It pains me to say this, but I agree with the stance that TSP has taken.

This argument is terrible in no small part because the circumstances you list would be handled totally different away from home versus within it in the case of all regions, even if their stances would be very similar.

The people in control of a region inherently wish to remain in control of a region, otherwise they would cede it. I know you're better than that, dude. Please try again.

[KhanterWinters]

Does that mean that if I were to raid TWP, and coup the government, that you would then recognize me as the legitimate delegate?

Like if you could Raid TWP...

This argument is terrible in no small part because the circumstances you list would be handled totally different away from home versus within it in the case of all regions, even if their stances would be very similar.

Agree!

The people in control of a region inherently wish to remain in control of a region, otherwise they would cede it. I know you're better than that, dude. Please try again.

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(edit: US version)
"We're sorry; you have reached a number that has been disconnected or is no longer in service. If you feel you have reached this recording in error, please check the number and try your call again."

[Helseth]

From the Foreign Affairs Ministry of The West Pacific

In The West Pacific, we whole heartily support the natural game mechanics otherwise known as: Max's Law. Therefore we view the sitting Delegate of LWU legitimate and the Lazcorp Government as the recognized government of Lone Wolves United.

Furthermore, a we view our in-game embassy with LWU as an important obligation and we will defend the Lazcorp government with all of our resolve.

Does that mean that if I were to raid TWP, and coup the government, that you would then recognize me as the legitimate delegate?
Wait. I can already guess your answer. "GCRs are different."
Perhaps you can change your entire attitude, and recognize the original delegate as the actual delegate. It pains me to say this, but I agree with the stance that TSP has taken.

No, because you would then be a Userite. Also, you don't coup a region unless you belong in it. Internal takeover (regardless of whatever outside assistance). Invading would be external, you being from without with assistance.

[Altinsane]

That's a creative reading, but also a gross oversimplification and misunderstanding of the issue between Osiris and Balder. Userites are Userites not because of who they are, but because of what they do. We don't take offense to the existence of UCRs and pout if anyone agrees with them. That's very silly. If Osiris were going to make fun of the imperialist triangle it would be in much poorer taste than this.

Is it the position of Osiris that LWU, a UCR which couped and subverted a sovereign GCR in order to pursue their own agenda, is not a userite organisation? Do you think that their failure is cause for forgiveness?

More truthfully, I draw a line between those who are innocent and those who are not. Who do these actions more affect? Natives who may well have never even heard of Lazarus up to this point? Or Lamb/Funk/EW, who we've not heard a peep from and realistically probably don't even know they've been raided? Again: if they were just tagging the place for the lulz, okay. Good one. You got them. But why are they holding the region? And still growing in pilers. Does the plan here not seem a little less than innocuous?

From the Foreign Affairs Ministry of The West Pacific

In The West Pacific, we whole heartily support the natural game mechanics otherwise known as: Max's Law. Therefore we view the sitting Delegate of LWU legitimate and the Lazcorp Government as the recognized government of Lone Wolves United.

Furthermore, a we view our in-game embassy with LWU as an important obligation and we will defend the Lazcorp government with all of our resolve.

Does that mean that if I were to raid TWP, and coup the government, that you would then recognize me as the legitimate delegate?
Wait. I can already guess your answer. "GCRs are different."
Perhaps you can change your entire attitude, and recognize the original delegate as the actual delegate. It pains me to say this, but I agree with the stance that TSP has taken.

Whoa, are we playing spot the Userite? Found him!

[Alkasia]

Or Lamb/Funk/EW, who we've not heard a peep from and realistically probably don't even know they've been raided?

EW at the very least knows. He's logged on since the raid happened and changed his pretitle to "Lazarene Subordinate" and his flag to a Laz one as a result. He knows it's happening and he can end it at any time he wants. If he were to allow natives of his region to be kicked from it by a foreign Delegate, then that's his own doing.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Or Lamb/Funk/EW, who we've not heard a peep from and realistically probably don't even know they've been raided?

EW at the very least knows. He's logged on since the raid happened and changed his pretitle to "Lazarene Subordinate" and his flag to a Laz one as a result. He knows it's happening and he can end it at any time he wants. If he were to allow natives of his region to be kicked from it by a foreign Delegate, then that's his own doing.

Evil Wolf has been unavailable lately due to real life obligations. Someone else is in control of the nation Evil Wolf to keep it from ceasing to exist.

[Milozoldyck]

Does that mean that if I were to raid TWP, and coup the government, that you would then recognize me as the legitimate delegate?

I would.

EDIT: Having said that, I'd still support the current ruling party, despite considering you legitimate. That's just how it is sometimes.

[Aav Verinhall]

Does that mean that if I were to raid TWP, and coup the government, that you would then recognize me as the legitimate delegate?

I would.

EDIT: Having said that, I'd still support the current ruling party, despite considering you legitimate. That's just how it is sometimes.

Cool, thanks! You wanna help?

[Syberis]

I would.

EDIT: Having said that, I'd still support the current ruling party, despite considering you legitimate. That's just how it is sometimes.

Cool, thanks! You wanna help?

Oooo, do try. I'm sure Onder would help too.

That's not sarcasm, I'm sure if he saw a chance, he'd take it

[Milozoldyck]

I would.

EDIT: Having said that, I'd still support the current ruling party, despite considering you legitimate. That's just how it is sometimes.

Cool, thanks! You wanna help?

Did you not read my post? I would recognize you as the legitimate delegate if were the delegate of The West Pacific. Then I would help the old people remove you, because I know them, and not you.

"Legitimacy" is a farce, a construct we use to justify doing what we really want*. I'd overthrow Max Barry if I felt like it.

*EDIT: Having said that, what some people "really want to do" is support longstanding community with popularly-chosen governments and laws. To each their own, lol.

[Alkasia]

Evil Wolf has been unavailable lately due to real life obligations. Someone else is in control of the nation Evil Wolf to keep it from ceasing to exist.

Ahh, thanks for the heads-up.


Edit: Lemme add onto this by saying that if EW doesn't want this to happen, he should probably have picked a better person to run his nation for him. Not saying this raid is his fault or anything, but it was certainly made possible by the actions of his substitute, especially given the removal of all powers from the legitimate ROs.

[Evil Cub]

STOP MESSING WITH DADS STUFF u meaniebutts *yelp*

[KhanterWinters]

Oooo, do try. I'm sure Onder would help too.

That's not sarcasm, I'm sure if he saw a chance, he'd take it

That would be an odd move coming from an Ally.
But it is better know that he would try and feel with the faculty to act in that way.

(yeh know, I used the word again but I am NOT calling him retard, just saying, and not, I will not edit the word retard)

[McChimp]

More truthfully, I draw a line between those who are innocent and those who are not. Who do these actions more affect? Natives who may well have never even heard of Lazarus up to this point? Or Lamb/Funk/EW, who we've not heard a peep from and realistically probably don't even know they've been raided? Again: if they were just tagging the place for the lulz, okay. Good one. You got them. But why are they holding the region? And still growing in pilers. Does the plan here not seem a little less than innocuous?

Such people choose to associate with userite terrorists and are guilty by association.

[Roavin]

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44 minutes ago: The Almighty Colony of Quarillin departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
44 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Almighty Colony of Quarillin from the region.
45 minutes ago: The Colony of Royal Vassal departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
45 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Royal Vassal from the region.
46 minutes ago: The Colony of Calebs Haven XII departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
46 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Calebs Haven XII from the region.
46 minutes ago: The Colony of Churchillia departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
46 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Churchillia from the region.
50 minutes ago: The Almighty Colony of The Destruction Regime departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
50 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Almighty Colony of The Destruction Regime from the region.


And the purges have begun. Is anybody still seriously doubting that Laz is trying to grief the region?

[Kawaii Schoolgirl]

STOP MESSING WITH DADS STUFF u meaniebutts *yelp*

Evil cub is best cub! <3

[Lord Dominator]

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44 minutes ago: The Almighty Colony of Quarillin departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
44 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Almighty Colony of Quarillin from the region.
45 minutes ago: The Colony of Royal Vassal departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
45 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Royal Vassal from the region.
46 minutes ago: The Colony of Calebs Haven XII departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
46 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Calebs Haven XII from the region.
46 minutes ago: The Colony of Churchillia departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
46 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Churchillia from the region.
50 minutes ago: The Almighty Colony of The Destruction Regime departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
50 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Almighty Colony of The Destruction Regime from the region.


And the purges have begun. Is anybody still seriously doubting that Laz is trying to grief the region?

It's not like 5/8 of those nations moved there in the last couple days and all have the same flag, no sir...

[Roavin]

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44 minutes ago: The Almighty Colony of Quarillin departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
44 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Almighty Colony of Quarillin from the region.
45 minutes ago: The Colony of Royal Vassal departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
45 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Royal Vassal from the region.
46 minutes ago: The Colony of Calebs Haven XII departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
46 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Calebs Haven XII from the region.
46 minutes ago: The Colony of Churchillia departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
46 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Colony of Churchillia from the region.
50 minutes ago: The Almighty Colony of The Destruction Regime departed this region for The Rejected Realms.
50 minutes ago: The Wanderin' Group of Lost Wolves ejected The Almighty Colony of The Destruction Regime from the region.


And the purges have begun. Is anybody still seriously doubting that Laz is trying to grief the region?

It's not like 5/8 of those nations moved there in the last couple days and all have the same flag, no sir...

If it was 8/8, you might possibly have a point. 5/8, though, as you said.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

Are people supposed to care about griefers being griefed? Like I suppose you can criticise the way they're going about it but there's a certain irony at play here that makes me want to get the popcorn and see this play out.

[Malphe]

Are people supposed to care about griefers being griefed? Like I suppose you can criticise the way they're going about it but there's a certain irony at play here that makes me want to get the popcorn and see this play out.

Think the idea is that not everyone there is a griefer. LWU runs recruitment, not all of the nations that join the region will engage in any RD activity.

EDIT: not that I think this is serious.

[Lord Dominator]

It's not like 5/8 of those nations moved there in the last couple days and all have the same flag, no sir...

If it was 8/8, you might possibly have a point. 5/8, though, as you said.

Bah, it's good enough

EDIT: not that I think this is serious.

What? This is entirely completely utterly serious. Totally

[Jar Wattinree]

Are people supposed to care about griefers being griefed? Like I suppose you can criticise the way they're going about it but there's a certain irony at play here that makes me want to get the popcorn and see this play out.

At this point, why not? NSGP provides the salt anyway. It's what I do on the sidelines.

[Lord Dominator]

Are people supposed to care about griefers being griefed? Like I suppose you can criticise the way they're going about it but there's a certain irony at play here that makes me want to get the popcorn and see this play out.

At this point, why not? NSGP provides the salt anyway. It's what I do on the sidelines.

The proper viewing and/or participation procedure involves acting as though you are going to the movie of your choice; complete with popcorn, snacks, and beverages of your choice.

[Pencil Sharpeners 2]

Given their treatment of wolves, I've now got "Lazarus" autocorrecting to "Lannister" on my phone.