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Postby New Min » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:50 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Australasian Kingdom wrote:lol Mt Army Leader is watching the thread XD

And? If I had a region and you made a region that was trying to destroy my region, then I'd likely pay a visit for a laugh too...

To quote his Discord messages:
tonights entertainment for sure :wink:

LOLOLOLOL
these screenshots are forever :smile:

Thanks for giving people a laugh :rofl:
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:51 am

The Australasian Kingdom wrote:nearly all of you guys, you keep throwing insults that are just really pathetic

Insults? I don't see any insults...? I see criticism of the flag and the ideology of your region...
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby The Australasian Kingdom » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:52 am

first of all, holy shit how many messages are there in this thread, second, i think this thread has become cancer from all sides and lastly i'm gonna go so if i don't respond its because i'm offline.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:54 am

The Australasian Kingdom wrote:first of all, holy shit how many messages are there in this thread, second, i think this thread has become cancer from all sides and lastly i'm gonna go so if i don't respond its because i'm offline.

Criticism clearly means cancer now...? :eyebrow:
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Aressna » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:05 am

I never liked your dispatch, but I did chuckle considerably loud when I read this:

first of all, in real life, i do follow National Socialism, but in Nation states, i don't ram my Ideology down your throat, even in RP i don't do such a thing, But the MT Army and Antifa apparently don't know what RP is and decide to Ram Communism, Socialism and Anarchism down your throat until you surrender and accept it


I suppose you are some sort of Ubermensch gentlemen because you don't force everyone you meet on this site to be a Nazi. How nice, great to see you are being inclusive, while subscribing to an ideology which actively promotes intolerance, exclusiveness, and racial supremacy. You call yourself a National Socialist, but then seem to say "Fascism" is the consolidation of power economically and socially within the state, and that it isn't racist to be a fascist, while it is racist to be a Nazi, despite explicitly saying that you are a National Socialist.

You also say that Italy wasn't racist, because it "Let blacks into the country, and wrote a song about a black woman". By this logic, the Slave Owners of the Americas weren't racist because they let blacks into their country, and they also wrote all those nice Coon songs about how disgusting black people were and how they weren't humans. Italy under Mussolini also actively worked with Hitler, and was well aware of the political and racial segregation and repression occurring in the Third Reich.

You make a few good points about excessive invasions of supposedly innocent regions, but you also vaguely say that some may be fascist, but they are only there for RP. They are still fascist no matter what they are doing, their ideology must be stopped.

You also say that these people are intolerant, or exclusive or something. Fascism and Nazism are inherently intolerant, forcing those who they do not like to death. In this sense, we must be intolerant of the intolerant, in order to stop them from harming the wider Society, in any way possible.

The MT Army might be hated by a few right winger communities, but there are far more right wing invasion groups who endlessly campaign their Nazi agenda upon democratic regions. If anything, these larger, more well-known and more hated invasion forces will cause the end of the NS community.
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Postby The Australasian Kingdom » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:14 am

Aressna wrote:I never liked your dispatch, but I did chuckle considerably loud when I read this:

first of all, in real life, i do follow National Socialism, but in Nation states, i don't ram my Ideology down your throat, even in RP i don't do such a thing, But the MT Army and Antifa apparently don't know what RP is and decide to Ram Communism, Socialism and Anarchism down your throat until you surrender and accept it


I suppose you are some sort of Ubermensch gentlemen because you don't force everyone you meet on this site to be a Nazi. How nice, great to see you are being inclusive, while subscribing to an ideology which actively promotes intolerance, exclusiveness, and racial supremacy. You call yourself a National Socialist, but then seem to say "Fascism" is the consolidation of power economically and socially within the state, and that it isn't racist to be a fascist, while it is racist to be a Nazi, despite explicitly saying that you are a National Socialist.

You also say that Italy wasn't racist, because it "Let blacks into the country, and wrote a song about a black woman". By this logic, the Slave Owners of the Americas weren't racist because they let blacks into their country, and they also wrote all those nice Coon songs about how disgusting black people were and how they weren't humans. Italy under Mussolini also actively worked with Hitler, and was well aware of the political and racial segregation and repression occurring in the Third Reich.

You make a few good points about excessive invasions of supposedly innocent regions, but you also vaguely say that some may be fascist, but they are only there for RP. They are still fascist no matter what they are doing, their ideology must be stopped.

You also say that these people are intolerant, or exclusive or something. Fascism and Nazism are inherently intolerant, forcing those who they do not like to death. In this sense, we must be intolerant of the intolerant, in order to stop them from harming the wider Society, in any way possible.

The MT Army might be hated by a few right winger communities, but there are far more right wing invasion groups who endlessly campaign their Nazi agenda upon democratic regions. If anything, these larger, more well-known and more hated invasion forces will cause the end of the NS community.


Ok, so with the Fascist Communities that do invade, yes they should be attacked by the MT Army, its just the little groups doing nothing that should be protected, now with the Fascism in Italy, the Blacks actually were not treated as bad as what the Americans did with the Slaves, the Blacks were Segregated against, but they were not shoved into force labor, now i believe in a system here where, if you try to ram down your Ideology into my throat, i should do the same, but if you don't try to push your agenda, then i don't, Fascism usually forces Communists and Leftists to death, National Socialism forces many others to death is this fine?, no but it is needed to stop Communists and others from destroying a nation.
Sure both are intolerant but guess what, most of the Leftists in the world pushing their agenda are the reason why Nazism and Fascism are back again and are getting popular, its because of the left that the Right have become extreme in areas. my country has been flooded with Immigrants and it has sure had its ups and downs, but recently all it has done is create large problems that create a divide in the nation.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:17 am

The Australasian Kingdom wrote:
Aressna wrote:I never liked your dispatch, but I did chuckle considerably loud when I read this:



I suppose you are some sort of Ubermensch gentlemen because you don't force everyone you meet on this site to be a Nazi. How nice, great to see you are being inclusive, while subscribing to an ideology which actively promotes intolerance, exclusiveness, and racial supremacy. You call yourself a National Socialist, but then seem to say "Fascism" is the consolidation of power economically and socially within the state, and that it isn't racist to be a fascist, while it is racist to be a Nazi, despite explicitly saying that you are a National Socialist.

You also say that Italy wasn't racist, because it "Let blacks into the country, and wrote a song about a black woman". By this logic, the Slave Owners of the Americas weren't racist because they let blacks into their country, and they also wrote all those nice Coon songs about how disgusting black people were and how they weren't humans. Italy under Mussolini also actively worked with Hitler, and was well aware of the political and racial segregation and repression occurring in the Third Reich.

You make a few good points about excessive invasions of supposedly innocent regions, but you also vaguely say that some may be fascist, but they are only there for RP. They are still fascist no matter what they are doing, their ideology must be stopped.

You also say that these people are intolerant, or exclusive or something. Fascism and Nazism are inherently intolerant, forcing those who they do not like to death. In this sense, we must be intolerant of the intolerant, in order to stop them from harming the wider Society, in any way possible.

The MT Army might be hated by a few right winger communities, but there are far more right wing invasion groups who endlessly campaign their Nazi agenda upon democratic regions. If anything, these larger, more well-known and more hated invasion forces will cause the end of the NS community.


Ok, so with the Fascist Communities that do invade, yes they should be attacked by the MT Army, its just the little groups doing nothing that should be protected, now with the Fascism in Italy, the Blacks actually were not treated as bad as what the Americans did with the Slaves, the Blacks were Segregated against, but they were not shoved into force labor, now i believe in a system here where, if you try to ram down your Ideology into my throat, i should do the same, but if you don't try to push your agenda, then i don't, Fascism usually forces Communists and Leftists to death, National Socialism forces many others to death is this fine?, no but it is needed to stop Communists and others from destroying a nation.
Sure both are intolerant but guess what, most of the Leftists in the world pushing their agenda are the reason why Nazism and Fascism are back again and are getting popular, its because of the left that the Right have become extreme in areas. my country has been flooded with Immigrants and it has sure had its ups and downs, but recently all it has done is create large problems that create a divide in the nation.

This isn't NSGeneral btw...
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby The Australasian Kingdom » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:19 am

this thread has pretty much turned into something random at this point

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Postby Vippertooth33 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:48 am

Well tonight's entertainment has been top level, that's for sure :rofl:

I just wanted to pop in and summarize this strange thread to get it clear in my head.

1) Relatively unknown nation gets angry due to The MT Army raiding "innocent regions" and spams the NationStates Forums.
2) Said nation later admits they "will never stop waving the banner of National Socialism" (Nazism), creates a new region which displays the Nazi flag.
3) Banner waving Nazi nation somehow does not understand why a region purely based on fighting Nazi/Fascist hate would raid their Nazi/Fascist themed regions (the audacity right?).
4) Nazi nation debates Communism in a thread about a region that is not Communist.
5) Surprise...Nazi nation gets no support from the NationStates community.

Some simple advice: If you support an abhorrent ideology, be ready for some backlash from the majority of the population.

As it has done since 2003, The MT Army will continue to raid Nazi/Fascist regions when they become vulnerable (though game mechanics) and defend innocent regions against their hateful attacks.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:54 am

Vippertooth33 wrote:Well tonight's entertainment has been top level, that's for sure :rofl:

I just wanted to pop in and summarize this strange thread to get it clear in my head.

1) Relatively unknown nation gets angry due to The MT Army raiding "innocent regions" and spams the NationStates Forums.
2) Said nation later admits they "will never stop waving the banner of National Socialism" (Nazism), creates a new region which displays the Nazi flag.
3) Banner waving Nazi nation somehow does not understand why a region purely based on fighting Nazi/Fascist hate would raid their Nazi/Fascist themed regions (the audacity right?).
4) Nazi nation debates Communism in a thread about a region that is not Communist.
5) Surprise...Nazi nation gets no support from the NationStates community.

Some simple advice: If you support an abhorrent ideology, be ready for some backlash from the majority of the population.

As it has done since 2003, The MT Army will continue to raid Nazi/Fascist regions when they become vulnerable (though game mechanics) and defend innocent regions against their hateful attacks.

I also like how their flag is a blatant ripoff of the MT flag. No imagination went into it whatsoever...
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby The Australasian Kingdom » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:06 am

first of all our flag is the symbol of the anti antifa movement, second of all, we are gaining some support, i have been recruiting a few groups.

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Postby Kurnugia » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:11 am

The Australasian Kingdom wrote:first of all our flag is the symbol of the anti antifa movement, second of all, we are gaining some support, i have been recruiting a few groups.

YES! MORE PREY YUM YUM YUM.

Anti antifa? Wouldn't this be simply fascists?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:21 am

The Australasian Kingdom wrote:first of all our flag is the symbol of the anti antifa movement, second of all, we are gaining some support, i have been recruiting a few groups.

And it just happens to be very similar to the MT Army flag? :eyebrow: Methinks you have done that on purpose to get a rise out of them.

I still think the swastika peeking out from behind the other flag is absolutely fucking hilarious though. :lol2:

I see that your region still only has 1 member, so I doubt that the recruitment drive is going all that well...
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:22 am

Kurnugia wrote:
The Australasian Kingdom wrote:first of all our flag is the symbol of the anti antifa movement, second of all, we are gaining some support, i have been recruiting a few groups.

YES! MORE PREY YUM YUM YUM.

Anti antifa? Wouldn't this be simply fascists?


1. Your post number is 666 2. agreed 3. the OP needs to learn that if there is one thing people can unite over it is that NAZIs suck!
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:24 am

Kurnugia wrote:
The Australasian Kingdom wrote:our flag is the symbol of the anti antifa


Anti antifa? Wouldn't this be simply fascists?

Shoving too many instances of the word "anti" in front of something just leads it to become completely farcical, and is usually avoided.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Grater Tovakia » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:26 am

Also, your dispatch could use some grammatical help.
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Postby Audioslavia » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:10 am

I think this thread has run its course. iLock

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