NationStates

The defenders are slowly morphing into the raiders - Quite poetic, if you ask me.

Ah, yes... acting on the motives of 'liberation' by raiding a region. Nice one. I love a spot of hypocrisy in my tea.

Cool raid and all but did you know I just got a new osu top play?

You have no right to take credit for my work. I led the invasion. You followed and then banjected me simply because I got there days ahead of you while you held back.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:You have no right to take credit for my work. I led the invasion. You followed and then banjected me simply because I got there days ahead of you while you held back.

This is not the hill you want to die on.

The last page and a half aside, a few words before I go to bed. Tonight’s operation was wonderful, a 60 person deployment is no small task, larger than any non-Antifa stage in years. Everyone seemed to have a blast participating, though that didn’t stop nearly all of them from making into the target with ease, on time.

It’s good to strike back against a region that enjoyed damaging other communities, and doing so with allies was a good time. I’m quite proud of our LDF officers for their leadership and support and everyone carried their weight well in our military and in other ones participating.

Definitely had some great energy for this op, it’s always great to see what we can pull off. Operation Majapahit’s initial hit was a huge success and exceeded a lot of initial expectations.

Rhaza wrote:The last page and a half aside, a few words before I go to bed. Tonight’s operation was wonderful, a 60 person deployment is no small task, larger than any non-Antifa stage in years. Everyone seemed to have a blast participating, though that didn’t stop nearly all of them from making into the target with ease, on time.

It’s good to strike back against a region that enjoyed damaging other communities, and doing so with allies was a good time. I’m quite proud of our LDF officers for their leadership and support and everyone carried their weight well in our military and in other ones participating.

Definitely had some great energy for this op, it’s always great to see what we can pull off. Operation Majapahit’s initial hit was a huge success and exceeded a lot of initial expectations.

First of all, you were not remotely 'on time'. Second of all, you didn't pull anything off: as already stated, credit belongs to me and Thneedville.

I think someone explained to me once how "raiding" works... but I forgot, and I believe this has been an interesting reminder.
But I believe the previous explanation was why I stripped the WA Delegate role in my region of any and all authority. I suppose anyone who has the WA Delegate as the highest position of authority in their region is probably just begging to get the power taken from them.


Then again, if the game's stat rankings meant anything then I'd probably be able to obliterate most of the World Assembly by myself... and I absolutely would do so.

Chef Big Dog wrote:

Shayk wrote:Invading Indonesia, a region that happened to be lead by a raider but mostly existed as a space for Indonesian speaking nations, and then Islamic States, the largest Islamic region in the game which openly offered itself to turn defender (before you rejected us), then using the imperialist imagery of colonial era ship bombardment, calling us "cultists" in the world factbook entry, posting fake Bible quotes in the RMB - I see you are making it clear to every Islamic nation in the game that Defenders are an enemy to Islam and have no respect for it.

To all Islamic nations reading this: The Defenders, especially The League are a scourge to us, every one of them. The only cure for them is a great jihad across all of NS.

I would offer you condolences but it would be hypocritical since I don't really care if founderless regions are raided. As far as your founder's deletion, you played stupid games and won stupid prizes. Hopefully this will be a good lesson on who and who not to trust if you want to protect your region from counter invasion in the future.

Critical support to the League and its Coalition Allies in its continued fight against founderless regions

VavCorp 3 wrote:

Rhaza wrote:[spoiler]
1. Okay "Army Commander" Shayk, I'm sure your offer was very sincere.

2. I've been calling raider unity a cult (which I believe it to be in an in-game sense) for months, you aren't special.

3. Benedictions is from Dragon Age, man. It's a video game (which TGW has been themed on since 2016).

But yeah come jihad me or whatever lol.

1.Blah blah blah

2.Very bad taste

3.Not a valid excuse.

2. Raider Unity is the closest we have to a contemporary IC Cult. Simple as.

3. I do not get why people are getting upset at a video game referencing another video game, conflating it with serious IRL issues, and then getting bad when called out for how they are overreacting.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Rhaza wrote:The last page and a half aside, a few words before I go to bed. Tonight’s operation was wonderful, a 60 person deployment is no small task, larger than any non-Antifa stage in years. Everyone seemed to have a blast participating, though that didn’t stop nearly all of them from making into the target with ease, on time.

It’s good to strike back against a region that enjoyed damaging other communities, and doing so with allies was a good time. I’m quite proud of our LDF officers for their leadership and support and everyone carried their weight well in our military and in other ones participating.

Definitely had some great energy for this op, it’s always great to see what we can pull off. Operation Majapahit’s initial hit was a huge success and exceeded a lot of initial expectations.

First of all, you were not remotely 'on time'. Second of all, you didn't pull anything off: as already stated, credit belongs to me and Thneedville.

Except defenders aren't operating off of your timeframe. You're not a sanctioned part of their operation at that point, you're someone to be removed.

Dawn Denac wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:First of all, you were not remotely 'on time'. Second of all, you didn't pull anything off: as already stated, credit belongs to me and Thneedville.

Except defenders aren't operating off of your timeframe. You're not a sanctioned part of their operation at that point, you're someone to be removed.

What, just because I'm better at their job than they are?

Also, it's not THEIR operation. I led the invasion of Islamic States, not them. All they did was liberate the region, which was pointless because a password was never imposed, and then take days to turn up.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Dawn Denac wrote:

Except defenders aren't operating off of your timeframe. You're not a sanctioned part of their operation at that point, you're someone to be removed.

What, just because I'm better at their job than they are?

I would guess because you're not a part of Libcord or the League, TGW, TiTO, ERN, TMG, Declansburg, DSAF or Sulenia, and they don't want you there gathering influence because it's a waste of their time.

Dawn Denac wrote:

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:What, just because I'm better at their job than they are?

I would guess because you're not a part of Libcord or the League, TGW, TiTO, ERN, TMG, Declansburg, DSAF or Sulenia, and they don't want you there gathering influence because it's a waste of their time.

Quebecshire only banjected me after I criticised their speed in turning up, so I think it's more a matter of offence being taken. Regardless, I won't apologise, especially after such an overreaction.

The Hurricane wrote:So when defenders raid, thats good.
But when raiders raid, thats bad.

That seems unfair.

The important part is the spectacle, who cares about good or bad? I want blood! I want salt! Give me popcorn! Go spawn more angry forum posts!

You should raid more often, I say.

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:This is what happens to those who take what’s not theirs and actively choose to grief and destroy players’ hard work.

You get to have a great time and enjoy the salt of the natives? I'm glad you've seen the light.

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Raiding doesn’t belong on the site. Period. My endgame is the complete extermination of raiding from NationStates. As long as raiding keeps being allowed to exist I see it as my sworn duty to stamp it out myself, at the source. No region with a raider military, or who gives aid and comfort to the same, is safe.

Isn't that almost every independent military? Granted, "aid and comfort" isn't exactly well-defined but that still seems like a strange implication to make.

Occidius wrote:

The Hurricane wrote:So when defenders raid, thats good.
But when raiders raid, thats bad.

That seems unfair.

The important part is the spectacle, who cares about good or bad? I want blood! I want salt! Give me popcorn! Go spawn more angry forum posts!

Make sure the pipes for the angry forum post fountains aren't clogged!

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Also, it's not THEIR operation. I led the invasion of Islamic States, not them.

Did you have another WA in supporting you (thats after the 2 days you weren't even WA yourself)? Or were you just a useless single nation doing nothing but trying to look tough.

Edit: Sheep do bad quotes

A Bloodred Moon wrote:You should raid more often, I say.

Tell Evil Wolf not to log in for awhile and I'll see what I can do.

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:

Dawn Denac wrote:

Except defenders aren't operating off of your timeframe. You're not a sanctioned part of their operation at that point, you're someone to be removed.

What, just because I'm better at their job than they are?

Also, it's not THEIR operation. I led the invasion of Islamic States, not them. All they did was liberate the region, which was pointless because a password was never imposed, and then take days to turn up.

Invasions tend to require you to actually take control of the region/delegate . I recommend you join the Skeleton Army to better hone your skills.

Rhaza wrote:

A Bloodred Moon wrote:You should raid more often, I say.

Tell Evil Wolf not to log in for awhile and I'll see what I can do.

Ater Nox is the rightful delegate of Lone Wolves United.

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Raiding doesn’t belong on the site. Period. My endgame is the complete extermination of raiding from NationStates. As long as raiding keeps being allowed to exist I see it as my sworn duty to stamp it out myself, at the source. No region with a raider military, or who gives aid and comfort to the same, is safe.

This type of rhetoric continues to be really fucking uncomfortable to read.

RiderSyl wrote:

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:Raiding doesn’t belong on the site. Period. My endgame is the complete extermination of raiding from NationStates. As long as raiding keeps being allowed to exist I see it as my sworn duty to stamp it out myself, at the source. No region with a raider military, or who gives aid and comfort to the same, is safe.

This type of rhetoric continues to be really fucking uncomfortable to read.

Dunno how you can read this thread, where a jihad against defenders is called for while claiming we're an affront to Islam, and come away with the conclusion that W&S' posts are the ones that are too much.

In some fun news,

As the WA Delegate of Islamic States, having won two twice-daily elections thus far, I am happy to announce my new regime's first major diplomatic achievement.

Seconds ago: The Eternal Minuteman of Rhaza agreed to construct embassies with Christmas.
Seconds ago: The Carolling Colony of GoodKingWenceslas of the region Christmas proposed constructing embassies.

Ah, justice.

Rhaza wrote:

RiderSyl wrote:
This type of rhetoric continues to be really fucking uncomfortable to read.

Dunno how you can read this thread, where a jihad against defenders is called for while claiming we're an affront to Islam, and come away with the conclusion that W&S' posts are the ones that are too much.

I’m focusing on W&S’s post because that other crap is already leading to consequences for those who said it. Hope that helps you understand, Quebecshire. Speaking of crap… opening up an embassy with Christmas is leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle IMO.

RiderSyl wrote:[Speaking of crap… opening up an embassy with Christmas is leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle IMO.

For someone so desperate to police the morality of other people, he does have a knack for setting fire to his own morals doesn’t he? I guess the province of Quebec, which does exactly the same shit, rubbed off on him more than I realized…..