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Free Algerstonia
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:22 am

so much for the tolerant defenders!
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Rhaza
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Postby Rhaza » Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:45 am

RiderSyl wrote:Speaking of crap… opening up an embassy with Christmas is leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle IMO.

Sure, if you wipe all context away from the situation... Christmas got offered an embassy because Islamic States raided them. Allow me to get out the small violin for this one, woe is IS for encountering the consequences of their actions.

Always nice to see a resilient founderless community outlast a region that decided to screw with it. Islamic States can join Asgard in that regard, now.

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:57 am

Rhaza wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:Speaking of crap… opening up an embassy with Christmas is leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle IMO.

Sure, if you wipe all context away from the situation... Christmas got offered an embassy because Islamic States raided them. Allow me to get out the small violin for this one, woe is IS for encountering the consequences of their actions.


You’re the one wiping away context. Try getting out your reading glasses and look at the thread you linked. Look at the immediate response to IS’s raid of Christmas. The same criticisms aimed at them then apply to you here now, and your vigilante roleplay doesn’t change that.
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Postby Rhaza » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:08 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Rhaza wrote:Sure, if you wipe all context away from the situation... Christmas got offered an embassy because Islamic States raided them. Allow me to get out the small violin for this one, woe is IS for encountering the consequences of their actions.


You’re the one wiping away context. Try getting out your reading glasses and look at the thread you linked. Look at the immediate response to IS’s raid of Christmas. The same criticisms aimed at them then apply to you here now, and your vigilante roleplay doesn’t change that.

They do?

If you can find an instance of someone from The League/Concord or otherwise piling calling IS members "infidels" (or equivalent), do let me know so I can send them to TRR. I also invite you to proof-read my WFE for this raid and let me know if I included anything like that, since you must be seeing something I'm not.

As much as you're reaching for a gotcha, offering an embassy to a region mistreated by IS not the same as IS' unprovoked raid on them, nor the rhetoric they used.

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Chef Big Dog
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Founded: Jan 17, 2017
Tyranny by Majority

Postby Chef Big Dog » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:19 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Rhaza wrote:Dunno how you can read this thread, where a jihad against defenders is called for while claiming we're an affront to Islam, and come away with the conclusion that W&S' posts are the ones that are too much.


I’m focusing on W&S’s post because that other crap is already leading to consequences for those who said it. Hope that helps you understand, Quebecshire. Speaking of crap… opening up an embassy with Christmas is leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle IMO.

I think it's pretty clear the IS isn't being raided for being an Islamic region. I'm all for anti-defender agendaposting but calling this "Muslim bashing" is frankly absurd.
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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:49 am

Chef Big Dog wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
I’m focusing on W&S’s post because that other crap is already leading to consequences for those who said it. Hope that helps you understand, Quebecshire. Speaking of crap… opening up an embassy with Christmas is leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle IMO.

I think it's pretty clear the IS isn't being raided for being an Islamic region. I'm all anti-defender agendaposting but calling this "Muslim bashing" is frankly absurd.

The fuck are you talking about? I didn’t say IS was being raided for being Islamic. What’s frankly absurd is you interpreting “You’re leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle with this embassy opening” as “You raided this region for being Muslim”. I could mistake you for a defender with that level of bad faith.
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:57 am

Rhaza wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
You’re the one wiping away context. Try getting out your reading glasses and look at the thread you linked. Look at the immediate response to IS’s raid of Christmas. The same criticisms aimed at them then apply to you here now, and your vigilante roleplay doesn’t change that.

They do?

If you can find an instance of someone from The League/Concord or otherwise piling calling IS members "infidels" (or equivalent), do let me know so I can send them to TRR. I also invite you to proof-read my WFE for this raid and let me know if I included anything like that, since you must be seeing something I'm not.

As much as you're reaching for a gotcha, offering an embassy to a region mistreated by IS not the same as IS' unprovoked raid on them, nor the rhetoric they used.


Oh wow, you really got me, Ben Shapiro. They’re not literally the same act in all facets, you’re right. What you still can’t dispute effectively is that you’re throwing mock Bible quotes from a video game in their WFE and opening embassies with Christmas while occupying an Islamic region, and it’s tasteless. What IS did to Christmas was tasteless too, but that does not justify you.
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Jar Wattinree
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:57 am

Literacy is for fendas anyway.
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Chef Big Dog
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Postby Chef Big Dog » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:29 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Chef Big Dog wrote:I think it's pretty clear the IS isn't being raided for being an Islamic region. I'm all anti-defender agendaposting but calling this "Muslim bashing" is frankly absurd.

The fuck are you talking about? I didn’t say IS was being raided for being Islamic. What’s frankly absurd is you interpreting “You’re leaning a little too much into the Muslim-bashing angle with this embassy opening” as “You raided this region for being Muslim”. I could mistake you for a defender with that level of bad faith.

I don't think it's much of stretch when you're saying that a region that was raided by IS before getting an embassy is "Muslim bashing".
RiderSyl wrote:
Rhaza wrote:They do?

If you can find an instance of someone from The League/Concord or otherwise piling calling IS members "infidels" (or equivalent), do let me know so I can send them to TRR. I also invite you to proof-read my WFE for this raid and let me know if I included anything like that, since you must be seeing something I'm not.

As much as you're reaching for a gotcha, offering an embassy to a region mistreated by IS not the same as IS' unprovoked raid on them, nor the rhetoric they used.


Oh wow, you really got me, Ben Shapiro. They’re not literally the same act in all facets, you’re right. What you still can’t dispute effectively is that you’re throwing mock Bible quotes from a video game in their WFE and opening embassies with Christmas while occupying an Islamic region, and it’s tasteless. What IS did to Christmas was tasteless too, but that does not justify you.

I could mistake your for a defender with this level of inane whining over a raid.

Anyways it's clear to me that there is no point in engaging with you anymore. Have fun making more absurd posts I guess.
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Postby Improper Classifications » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:30 am

Rhaza wrote:having won two twice-daily elections thus far

Good to see that defenders and raiders finally agree on something.
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Rhaza
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Postby Rhaza » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:57 am

Improper Classifications wrote:
Rhaza wrote:having won two twice-daily elections thus far

Good to seethat defenders and raidersfinally agreeon something.

Yeah but cool boat theme > crypto theme

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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:10 am

Chef Big Dog wrote:I don't think it's much of stretch when you're saying that a region that was raided by IS before getting an embassy is "Muslim bashing".

No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that opening embassies with Christmas while occupying a Muslim region is leaning in a little too much towards Muslim-bashing. I shouldn’t have to repeat myself like this. You really should just scroll up and read.


Chef Big Dog wrote:I could mistake your for a defender with this level of inane whining over a raid.

Anyways it's clear to me that there is point in engaging with you anymore. Have fun making more absurd posts I guess.


Absurd, inane, but you sure struggled to make a single salient point against any of it. It’s definitely better for you to go, Chef - find a new recipe.
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:12 am

Rhaza wrote:

Yeah but cool boat theme > crypto theme

Objectively true. Your taste in themes remains impeccable.

Wait I mean GRR Q BAD
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Rhaza
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Postby Rhaza » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:16 am

RiderSyl wrote:
Chef Big Dog wrote:I don't think it's much of stretch when you're saying that a region that was raided by IS before getting an embassy is "Muslim bashing".

No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that opening embassies with Christmas while occupying a Muslim region is leaning in a little too much towards Muslim-bashing. I shouldn’t have to repeat myself like this. You really should just scroll up and read.

The only reason Christmas got offered an embassy is because they were a region that Islamic States raided - not for any religious reason. I offered, they wanted it because "those raiders messed with Christmas", not "yes let's bash the Muslims". The offer stands to any region IS raided, hence TMA's involvement.

RiderSyl wrote:
Rhaza wrote:Yeah but cool boat theme > crypto theme

Objectively true. Your taste in themes remains impeccable.

Wait I mean GRR Q BAD


The LCS Ellesmera is also a The League Lore reference. [galaxy brain image here]

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:29 am

Rhaza wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that opening embassies with Christmas while occupying a Muslim region is leaning in a little too much towards Muslim-bashing. I shouldn’t have to repeat myself like this. You really should just scroll up and read.

The only reason Christmas got offered an embassy is because they were a region that Islamic States raided - not for any religious reason. I offered, they wanted it because "those raiders messed with Christmas", not "yes let's bash the Muslims". The offer stands to any region IS raided, hence TMA's involvement.


Alrighty. I’ve no problem with it, then.

Rhaza wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:Objectively true. Your taste in themes remains impeccable.

Wait I mean GRR Q BAD


The LCS Ellesmera is also a The League Lore reference. [galaxy brain image here]


And here I thought the LCS stood for Liechtenstein Cruise Ships. Disappointing. :p
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:22 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:Literacy is for fendas anyway.

Crap is it? I missed that memo. Oh for the days when we bashed a keyboard and hoped autocorrected would fix it.
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The Islamic communist republics
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Postby The Islamic communist republics » Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:26 pm

eh we escaped literally if you invade us we'll escape to another islam-themed region
you'll never stop us entirely

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Postby Galactic Powers » Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:00 pm

The Islamic communist republics wrote:eh we escaped literally if you invade us we'll escape to another islam-themed region
you'll never stop us entirely

That's kinda how r/d works man, you can't delete nations unless you are a mod. This isn't a win.
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Postby Rhaza » Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:07 pm

Seconds ago: Rhaza ejected and banned The Old Sheikdom of Shayk from Islamic States.

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Postby Wabbitslayah » Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:09 pm

Rhaza wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:
This type of rhetoric continues to be really fucking uncomfortable to read.

Dunno how you can read this thread, where a jihad against defenders is called for while claiming we're an affront to Islam, and come away with the conclusion that W&S' posts are the ones that are too much.

tbf tho, it is pretty cringe
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Mechanocracy
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Postby Mechanocracy » Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:52 pm

Rhaza wrote:

Yeah but cool boat theme > crypto theme

You mean I shouldn’t have invested my personal fortune into HawkCoin?
Uh oh

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Postby Rhaza » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:26 pm

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REPUBLIC MOBILIZED! 115+ ENDORSEMENTS IN ISLAMIC STATES!

As of this report, 52 members of The League and Concord are supporting the cause!


OPERATION MAJAPAHIT – After an initial invasion of 60 updaters (the largest non-Antifa stage in years) toppling the delegacy of the invader-ridden Islamic States, the endorsement count of the point nation has swelled to over 115. As mentioned prior, 52 of these, so far, are from The League and Concord. In addition to having stellar liberation turnouts, we've brought an absolute fucking doomstack to razing this place. Many members of the region have come forward to support this great cause, including Fmr. General Andrew Du, who led the original iteration of our military as its second General of the Armed Forces in 2016-2017. We're happy to have you on board again, Andrew!

In addition to the ongoing occupation, our officers have been hard at work picking apart the network of proxies woven by the soiled founder of Islamic States. To this end, we have captured Islamic Defense Pact this major update.

1/18/2023, 1:17:02 AM EST: Krom the Barbarian founded the region Islamic Defense Pact.
1/18/2023, 1:16:49 AM EST: 4rtF4n relocated from Islamic Defense Pact to Temporary Home.


Refound: The League's Defense Forces

Consul Quebecshire
Colonel Raziel (trigger and snipe)
Minuteman Kanjuura
Minuteman Styphonia


Refound: Additional Support

Vice-Delegate Council of Feathers
Icarus
Matthew
Dr. Hooves (ty for letting us have this)


Remember, to support our permanent pacification of Islamic States, be sure to vote FOR in the Security Council!
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Dawn Denac » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:37 pm

Rhaza wrote:
(Image)

REPUBLIC MOBILIZED! 115+ ENDORSEMENTS IN ISLAMIC STATES!

As of this report, 52 members of The League and Concord are supporting the cause!


OPERATION MAJAPAHIT – After an initial invasion of 60 updaters (the largest non-Antifa stage in years) toppling the delegacy of the invader-ridden Islamic States, the endorsement count of the point nation has swelled to over 115. As mentioned prior, 52 of these, so far, are from The League and Concord. In addition to having stellar liberation turnouts, we've brought an absolute fucking doomstack to razing this place. Many members of the region have come forward to support this great cause, including Fmr. General Andrew Du, who led the original iteration of our military as its second General of the Armed Forces in 2016-2017. We're happy to have you on board again, Andrew!

In addition to the ongoing occupation, our officers have been hard at work picking apart the network of proxies woven by the soiled founder of Islamic States. To this end, we have captured Islamic Defense Pact this major update.

1/18/2023, 1:17:02 AM EST: Krom the Barbarian founded the region Islamic Defense Pact.
1/18/2023, 1:16:49 AM EST: 4rtF4n relocated from Islamic Defense Pact to Temporary Home.


Refound: The League's Defense Forces

Consul Quebecshire
Colonel Raziel (trigger and snipe)
Minuteman Kanjuura
Minuteman Styphonia


Refound: Additional Support

Vice-Delegate Council of Feathers
Icarus
Matthew
Dr. Hooves (ty for letting us have this)


Remember, to support our permanent pacification of Islamic States, be sure to vote FOR in the Security Council!


Krom the Barbarian is a kick ass name, even if I don't get the reference.
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Postby One Small Island » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:44 pm

Dawn Denac wrote:Krom the Barbarian is a kick ass name, even if I don't get the reference.

So it's sorta a reference to two things. Crom the Barbarian was a not-very-popular comic book in the 1950s, and Crom is also the god-being in Conan the Barbarian. So it is an imperfect reference to both of those things.
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Dawn Denac
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Dawn Denac » Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:51 pm

One Small Island wrote:
Dawn Denac wrote:Krom the Barbarian is a kick ass name, even if I don't get the reference.

So it's sorta a reference to two things. Crom the Barbarian was a not-very-popular comic book in the 1950s, and Crom is also the god-being in Conan the Barbarian. So it is an imperfect reference to both of those things.


It was tickling my brain for something related to Conan, but I couldn't place my finger on it. Thanks for the clarificaation.
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