NATION

PASSWORD

The League & Concord | Still Here.

Talk about regional management and politics, raider/defender gameplay, and other game-related matters.
Not a roleplaying forum.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Muzehnaya
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 402
Founded: Apr 07, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Muzehnaya » Wed May 05, 2021 10:59 pm

Thank you very much for kicking the Genua occupiers out of our region!
Ibn Taymiyyah - Majmu al-Fatawa 4/186 wrote:Insulting, slandering, and being aggressive during a discussion are tricks of those who are weak
and a commodity of those who are bankrupt (in knowledge). Verily, refutations based upon insults
and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.

User avatar
Quebecshire
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1914
Founded: Mar 17, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Quebecshire » Wed May 05, 2021 11:02 pm

Muzehnaya wrote:Thank you very much for kicking the Genua occupiers out of our region!

That liberation (as opposed to our offensive payback) was actually a separately-running allied taskforce (one we work with most nights), it looks like Tim-Opolis (the owner of the Interceptor XXXIII nation) led point on your liberation!
Last edited by Quebecshire on Wed May 05, 2021 11:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
PATRIOT OF THE LEAGUE REDEEMER OF CONCORD
Defender Moralist | Consul of the LDF | Warden-Lieutenant Emeritus | Commended
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.

User avatar
Muzehnaya
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 402
Founded: Apr 07, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Muzehnaya » Wed May 05, 2021 11:03 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Muzehnaya wrote:Thank you very much for kicking the Genua occupiers out of our region!

That liberation (as opposed to our offensive payback) was actually a separately-running allied taskforce (one we work with most nights), it looks like Tim-Opolis led point on your liberation!

Ah, well in that case, thank you Tim-Opolis for kicking out Genua!
Ibn Taymiyyah - Majmu al-Fatawa 4/186 wrote:Insulting, slandering, and being aggressive during a discussion are tricks of those who are weak
and a commodity of those who are bankrupt (in knowledge). Verily, refutations based upon insults
and intimidation, everyone has the capability of doing that.

User avatar
The United Peoples of Centrism
Secretary
 
Posts: 35
Founded: Apr 01, 2019
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The United Peoples of Centrism » Wed May 05, 2021 11:18 pm

Rough day to be a fascist. Good work out there you guys
CEO of Cancel Culture
Former Delegate of ASS
Unabashed Cardtel Shill

User avatar
East Blepia
Envoy
 
Posts: 265
Founded: Jan 16, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby East Blepia » Thu May 06, 2021 4:29 am

Quebecshire wrote:snip


It is a real funny kind of defending when you invade someone else's region.
Last edited by East Blepia on Thu May 06, 2021 4:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

User avatar
Palcania
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 50
Founded: Oct 28, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Palcania » Thu May 06, 2021 4:33 am

Fascist?

User avatar
The Notorious Mad Jack
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1752
Founded: Nov 05, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Thu May 06, 2021 5:02 am

East Blepia wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:snip


It is a real funny kind of defending when you invade someone else's region.

No quarter for fascists, tbh.
Totally not MadJack, though I hear he's incredibly smart and handsome.

User avatar
East Blepia
Envoy
 
Posts: 265
Founded: Jan 16, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby East Blepia » Thu May 06, 2021 5:23 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
East Blepia wrote:
It is a real funny kind of defending when you invade someone else's region.

No quarter for fascists, tbh.

Conservatism is the new counterculture. Nationstates was, is, and always will be a Fascist web site.
Last edited by East Blepia on Thu May 06, 2021 5:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

User avatar
Cormactopia Prime
Minister
 
Posts: 2764
Founded: Sep 21, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu May 06, 2021 5:35 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
East Blepia wrote:
It is a real funny kind of defending when you invade someone else's region.

No quarter for fascists, tbh.

Even this aside, if a region violates another region's sovereignty the way Genua did with The League, it's valid to retaliate, including against their allies. Using some other region's territory as a staging ground to invade another region, without that region's permission, and especially when that region is against raiding, is a pretty clear act of aggression. So the fascists really have nothing to complain about; they invaded The League first and The League retaliated. Simple as that.

Congratulations to The League on your successful operations. Nice to see Nazi Europa's Delegacy fall, even if only for an update.

User avatar
The Notorious Mad Jack
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1752
Founded: Nov 05, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Thu May 06, 2021 5:38 am

East Blepia wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:No quarter for fascists, tbh.

Conservatism is the new counterculture. Nationstates was, is, and always will be a Fascist web site.

Must be why y'all fail time after time after time.
Cormactopia Prime wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:No quarter for fascists, tbh.

Even this aside, if a region violates another region's sovereignty the way Genua did with The League, it's valid to retaliate, including against their allies. Using some other region's territory as a staging ground to invade another region, without that region's permission, and especially when that region is against raiding, is a pretty clear act of aggression. So the fascists really have nothing to complain about; they invaded The League first and The League retaliated. Simple as that.

Congratulations to The League on your successful operations. Nice to see Nazi Europa's Delegacy fall, even if only for an update.
A fair point too, and one I hadn't really considered.
Totally not MadJack, though I hear he's incredibly smart and handsome.

User avatar
Andusre
Envoy
 
Posts: 214
Founded: Jan 22, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Andusre » Thu May 06, 2021 6:14 am

Awesome stuff! Thanks to the LDF for running this & inviting us, it's always a refreshing feeling to remind fascists that when push comes to shove, boy, we can shove.
HumanSanity — Today at 18:15
Yes you are a petty asshole lol
[RRA] Minskiev — Today at 03:57
I mean I'm sure Onder is a good enough actor to pull off gay zoomer scotsman

User avatar
East Blepia
Envoy
 
Posts: 265
Founded: Jan 16, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby East Blepia » Thu May 06, 2021 7:07 am

Andusre wrote:Awesome stuff! Thanks to the LDF for running this & inviting us, it's always a refreshing feeling to remind fascists that when push comes to shove, boy, we can shove.

Yes, you can shove on an Internet web site, but perhaps not in the real world.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

User avatar
Andusre
Envoy
 
Posts: 214
Founded: Jan 22, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby Andusre » Thu May 06, 2021 7:14 am

East Blepia wrote:
Andusre wrote:Awesome stuff! Thanks to the LDF for running this & inviting us, it's always a refreshing feeling to remind fascists that when push comes to shove, boy, we can shove.

Yes, you can shove on an Internet web site, but perhaps not in the real world.

I don't resort to violence IRL to promote my ideas, but can the same be said the same for you buddy? c:

Using the internet to help starve that loathsome & repulsive ideology of the political oxygen it needs to spread & normalise hatred is something I'm more than happy to do <3333
Last edited by Andusre on Thu May 06, 2021 8:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
HumanSanity — Today at 18:15
Yes you are a petty asshole lol
[RRA] Minskiev — Today at 03:57
I mean I'm sure Onder is a good enough actor to pull off gay zoomer scotsman

User avatar
Nova Vandalia
Envoy
 
Posts: 323
Founded: Jan 19, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Nova Vandalia » Thu May 06, 2021 7:43 am

East Blepia wrote:
Andusre wrote:Awesome stuff! Thanks to the LDF for running this & inviting us, it's always a refreshing feeling to remind fascists that when push comes to shove, boy, we can shove.

Yes, you can shove on an Internet web site, but perhaps not in the real world.


I just want to be clear, that no one here is if afraid of you. Fascist ideology is sickening, and a sign of cowardice so detached from reality that that inspires a feeling not to dissimilar to the emotion evoked by having to clean up vomit. Which thankfully this group has volunteered to do, as do many others both online and offline, because we don't want other people to get sick. And here is the thing fascist ideologies can scream and kick like children, but they lose every time. Hitler blew his own brains out and Mussolini hung upside down from a bridge, It's an ideology of inevitable failure and no one here is going to stoop to your level of making vague and uninspired attempts at being threatening, because we already know what happens to that ideology. See the bolded bit.
Last edited by Nova Vandalia on Thu May 06, 2021 7:59 am, edited 2 times in total.
If my tone is coming off as a little harsh, please call me out on it, I rarely mean to come off that way.

Be Ruthless to Systems, Be Kind to People.

User avatar
Quebecshire
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1914
Founded: Mar 17, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Quebecshire » Thu May 06, 2021 8:43 am

On the notes about how fascism is repugnant and nobody is afraid of their nonsense, it seems others covered all bases, so I'll just reply to the TL/LDF specific stuff.

East Blepia wrote:It is a real funny kind of defending when you invade someone else's region.

You sure owned us with that comment.

But really, the LDF has two principle scenarios in which it will authorize offensive operations against a region or regions, and it's worth noting that neither of these is uncommon for defender organizations.

    1. That region is out-of-character yuck (this includes and is primarily in regard to fascism).
    2. The region is an invader region and/or has directly provoked The League and its sovereignty (or that of its allies).
Funnily enough, you guys fit both points perfectly! LDF Central Command had zero difficulties in deciding if this was something we were going to pursue.
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Even this aside, if a region violates another region's sovereignty the way Genua did with The League, it's valid to retaliate, including against their allies. Using some other region's territory as a staging ground to invade another region, without that region's permission, and especially when that region is against raiding, is a pretty clear act of aggression. So the fascists really have nothing to complain about; they invaded The League first and The League retaliated. Simple as that.

Congratulations to The League on your successful operations. Nice to see Nazi Europa's Delegacy fall, even if only for an update.

Thank you for your support, Cormac!

I can't say I'd be likely to authorize an attack on allies as well for this reason if it wasn't a fascist region with fascist allies, but who knows. While we did delegate bump them about forty days ago, I'm not interested in pretending I'm going to play in good faith with fascists, and their staging from The League was a clear furthered act of aggression and escalation specifically designed to attempt to make us be angry. For some reason, they seem to think even though we retaliated much more strongly than their simply staging from us that I've been "humiliated." Don't get me wrong, it did make us angry, I was quite petty about it, but obviously, we decided to respond with action. If Genua had simply staged from some dead region or an actual JP, we probably just would have ran with Libcord last night like normal and only removed their single tag and then moved on. But nah, they chose violence, I suppose.
Andusre wrote:Awesome stuff! Thanks to the LDF for running this & inviting us, it's always a refreshing feeling to remind fascists that when push comes to shove, boy, we can shove.

Glad to do it! It's always a pleasure to work with our partners abroad, and I'm very happy with the LDF's ability to begin running multi-organization operations. Thank you to Thaecia for all the people it brought last night, it was a big help!
Last edited by Quebecshire on Thu May 06, 2021 9:17 am, edited 2 times in total.
PATRIOT OF THE LEAGUE REDEEMER OF CONCORD
Defender Moralist | Consul of the LDF | Warden-Lieutenant Emeritus | Commended
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.

User avatar
Lyoa
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 24
Founded: Apr 24, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Lyoa » Thu May 06, 2021 9:00 am

East Blepia wrote:
Andusre wrote:Awesome stuff! Thanks to the LDF for running this & inviting us, it's always a refreshing feeling to remind fascists that when push comes to shove, boy, we can shove.

Yes, you can shove on an Internet web site, but perhaps not in the real world.

There is no way you’re not trolling rn
✧Lyoa✧
Member of Lily
Yakutumba follower + supporter of Congolese liberation
“We are fighting against the Congolese army and bad governance, we are not fighting against the people. When Joseph Kabila took power, he promised the people to build roads, that education would be free and that healthcare would be of good quality. He had also promised peace in the Kivus, but so far the situation has remained unchanged. As he did not respect this, we continue to fight his system.” - Dalton Waubwela Mwila, CNPSC Spox.

User avatar
East Blepia
Envoy
 
Posts: 265
Founded: Jan 16, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby East Blepia » Thu May 06, 2021 10:37 am

Nova Vandalia wrote:
East Blepia wrote:Yes, you can shove on an Internet web site, but perhaps not in the real world.


I just want to be clear, that no one here is if afraid of you. Fascist ideology is sickening, and a sign of cowardice so detached from reality that that inspires a feeling not to dissimilar to the emotion evoked by having to clean up vomit. Which thankfully this group has volunteered to do, as do many others both online and offline, because we don't want other people to get sick. And here is the thing fascist ideologies can scream and kick like children, but they lose every time. Hitler blew his own brains out and Mussolini hung upside down from a bridge, It's an ideology of inevitable failure and no one here is going to stoop to your level of making vague and uninspired attempts at being threatening, because we already know what happens to that ideology. See the bolded bit.


Your disrespect for our martyrs is morally abhorrent.
And note well that it was not only Hitler and Mussolini who killed themselves when the nations of Europe were defeated in 1945. Tens of thousands of Germans, from political figures down to ordinary civilians, committed suicide. In one particular instance,
a Nazi loyalist schoolteacher, having slain his wife and children, launched a grenade on Soviet soldiers using a panzerfaust, before finally hanging himself.

These were people whose nations and whose futures had been stolen from them, who were completely and utterly 'blackpilled'. We (White people) have suffered seventy years of occupation by people who want us all dead, and we are not keen to endure seventy more.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

User avatar
East Blepia
Envoy
 
Posts: 265
Founded: Jan 16, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby East Blepia » Thu May 06, 2021 10:39 am

Andusre wrote:
East Blepia wrote:Yes, you can shove on an Internet web site, but perhaps not in the real world.

I don't resort to violence IRL to promote my ideas, but can the same be said the same for you buddy? c:

Using the internet to help starve that loathsome & repulsive ideology of the political oxygen it needs to spread & normalise hatred is something I'm more than happy to do <3333


Please read this and report back to me on who is loathsome and repulsive.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

User avatar
The Notorious Mad Jack
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1752
Founded: Nov 05, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Thu May 06, 2021 10:43 am

This isn't NSG.
Totally not MadJack, though I hear he's incredibly smart and handsome.

User avatar
Tim-Opolis
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6197
Founded: Feb 17, 2010
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu May 06, 2021 10:44 am

Muzehnaya wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:That liberation (as opposed to our offensive payback) was actually a separately-running allied taskforce (one we work with most nights), it looks like Tim-Opolis led point on your liberation!

Ah, well in that case, thank you Tim-Opolis for kicking out Genua!

Happy to help!

East Blepia wrote:
Andusre wrote:I don't resort to violence IRL to promote my ideas, but can the same be said the same for you buddy? c:

Using the internet to help starve that loathsome & repulsive ideology of the political oxygen it needs to spread & normalise hatred is something I'm more than happy to do <3333


Please read this and report back to me on who is loathsome and repulsive.


Hey Blepster, this isn’t NSG. Not only do we literally give zero shits about your fascist rants, this is not the forum for political debate. Plus, the end of the day, no amount of whining from you is actually going to do anything to stop us. You may as well give up.
Want to be a hero? Join The Grey Wardens - Help Us Save Nationstates
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Commended by Security Council Resolution #420 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Author of SC#74, SC #203, SC #222, and SC #238 | Co-Author of SC#191
Founder of Spiritus | Three-Time Delegate of Osiris | Pharaoh of the Islamic Republics of Iran | Hero of Greece
<Koth - 06/30/2020> I mean as far as GPers go, Tim is one of the most iconic

User avatar
Quebecshire
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1914
Founded: Mar 17, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Quebecshire » Thu May 06, 2021 10:46 am

East Blepia wrote:Please read this and report back to me on who is loathsome and repulsive.

Hey there. Like MJ and Tim said, this isn't NSG.

This isn't the forum for you to make fashy rants. Unless you have anything further to say about The League, its allies, or any actions it has taken in relation to GP, you can shove off now. If you do have stuff in that regard to discuss, I'm happy to watch you keep digging this hole.
PATRIOT OF THE LEAGUE REDEEMER OF CONCORD
Defender Moralist | Consul of the LDF | Warden-Lieutenant Emeritus | Commended
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.

User avatar
East Blepia
Envoy
 
Posts: 265
Founded: Jan 16, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby East Blepia » Thu May 06, 2021 11:03 am

Quebecshire wrote:If you do have stuff in that regard to discuss, I'm happy to watch you keep digging this hole.


We will liberate Warzone Airspace from the forces of the Lazarene Occupational Government and interregional capitalism.

Image
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

User avatar
The Ghost Of General Lee
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 21
Founded: Jun 11, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Ghost Of General Lee » Thu May 06, 2021 11:11 am

While I commend your actions against facism. I must ask why you felt the need to attack my home region of Disxie? We are not facists. In fact as a region we have no political beliefs at all aside from southern nationalism. And as far as I know we have never had any sort of contact with your organization, in fact I just discovered your existence a few minutes ago. While you may not have done any damage, seeing as our delegatecy is powerless. I do belive you still owe our region a apology, or at least a explanation for your actions.

User avatar
The Ghost Of General Lee
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 21
Founded: Jun 11, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby The Ghost Of General Lee » Thu May 06, 2021 11:13 am

East Blepia wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:If you do have stuff in that regard to discuss, I'm happy to watch you keep digging this hole.


We will liberate Warzone Airspace from the forces of the Lazarene Occupational Government and interregional capitalism.

Image



Please don't, I spent alot of time putting the Lazarene's in power there. Also it's a Warzone so they dont mean much.


By the way your name sounds very familiar. Have we met before? Maybe in the warzones? I go by the name of Vedan on most of my other puppets.

User avatar
Syberis
Diplomat
 
Posts: 690
Founded: Jan 21, 2016
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Syberis » Thu May 06, 2021 11:14 am

The Ghost Of General Lee wrote:While I commend your actions against facism. I must ask why you felt the need to attack my home region of Disxie? We are not facists. In fact as a region we have no political beliefs at all aside from southern nationalism. And as far as I know we have never had any sort of contact with your organization, in fact I just discovered your existence a few minutes ago. While you may not have done any damage, seeing as our delegatecy is powerless. I do belive you still owe our region a apology, or at least a explanation for your actions.


Hey!

I'd say your embassies with Farkasfalka and Genua probably made you a target. Couldn't say for sure because I wasn't involved in the op or the region involved, but those are good embassies to paint a target on your back.
I've finally found what I was looking for
A place where I can be without remorse
Because I am a stranger who has found
An even stranger war

Zaolat wrote:WHO THE F*** IS SYBERIS

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Gameplay

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Haymarket Riot

Advertisement

Remove ads