Confederacy of Layem | VICTORY

[The King Isle]

Well, guess Layem just lost its ally sanctum

The Layem Foreign Ministry will continue it's relations with Sanctum in their new region, Nova Sanctum. Keep in mind this region lacks the individuals that so many people hated, and should not be harassed due to the need of keeping the community of Sanctum alive.

Sanctum is a Community that should not be kept alive

[The Universe World]

They were raided for being a conservative region? I thought they were raided because the founder was a mean bully.

That’s… something I completely forgot when making my post, though after thinking about it I don’t believe that a founder’s conduct is quite enough to justify pillaging a region - it’s close to being one, but not sufficient on its own.

That is fair. But the majority of the region was still loyal to him even after he was declared DOS, which is quite frightening. It reminds me of Gest’s cult of personality but somehow worse. I do not think the raid needed to happen, but I also do not think that the motive behind this was to spite conservatives for any of the regions involved except for Mariner Trench, for obvious reasons.

[Haganham]

Well, guess Layem just lost its ally sanctum

The Layem Foreign Ministry will continue it's relations with Sanctum in their new region, Nova Sanctum. Keep in mind this region lacks the individuals that so many people hated, and should not be harassed due to the need of keeping the community of Sanctum alive.

These two statements are mutually exclusive.

[Greater Hualonia]

The Layem Foreign Ministry will continue it's relations with Sanctum in their new region, Nova Sanctum. Keep in mind this region lacks the individuals that so many people hated, and should not be harassed due to the need of keeping the community of Sanctum alive.

Sanctum is a Community that should not be kept alive

What’re you basing this statement on? If Affray and DC were the only people supposedly ‘problematic’ to you, why are you shitting on Nova Sanctum for inheriting the name of their predecessor? I’m sure no one there has the same ambitions as the old Sanctum once had.

[Straona]

Sanctum is a Community that should not be kept alive

What’re you basing this statement on? If Affray and DC were the only people supposedly ‘problematic’ to you, why are you shitting on Nova Sanctum for inheriting the name of their predecessor? I’m sure no one there has the same ambitions as the old Sanctum once had.

Yeah sure they don't.

[Archinstinct]

To be frank, the people of sanctum will likely harm your community in some way. There's a reason why it was made - originally to act as a harbor to people 'blacklisted' by a bloc of the general the NSGP community.

While a great percentage of the NSGP community sucks in it's own special ways, half the people on the informal 'blacklist' that bloc of regions share are actually pretty fucking bad - manipulators, doxxers, pedophiles. The other half? 'Nazis', though that's a very subjective and loose term that's thrown around too often.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Well, guess Layem just lost its ally sanctum

The Layem Foreign Ministry will continue it's relations with Sanctum in their new region, Nova Sanctum. Keep in mind this region lacks the individuals that so many people hated, and should not be harassed due to the need of keeping the community of Sanctum alive.

Funny you should mention that.

I popped over to their Discord, and they are still harbouring the exact same DOS and Blacklisted players there.

[Archinstinct]

The Layem Foreign Ministry will continue it's relations with Sanctum in their new region, Nova Sanctum. Keep in mind this region lacks the individuals that so many people hated, and should not be harassed due to the need of keeping the community of Sanctum alive.

Funny you should mention that.

I popped over to their Discord, and they are still harbouring the exact same DOS and Blacklisted players there.

Discord isn't Nationstates. There's nothing to do if discord support won't do anything. Isn't anybody's responsibility either besides the sanctum people. Better idea is to just steer clear.

[Straona]

Funny you should mention that.

I popped over to their Discord, and they are still harbouring the exact same DOS and Blacklisted players there.

Discord isn't Nationstates. There's nothing to do if discord support won't do anything. Isn't anybody's responsibility either besides the sanctum people. Better idea is to just steer clear.

Trust me we tried and they came after us and harassed our members and went after a region of former Declansburg members. Karma came right back to them

[RiderSyl]

The Layem Foreign Ministry will continue it's relations with Sanctum in their new region, Nova Sanctum. Keep in mind this region lacks the individuals that so many people hated, and should not be harassed due to the need of keeping the community of Sanctum alive.

Funny you should mention that.

I popped over to their Discord, and they are still harbouring the exact same DOS and Blacklisted players there.

Not surprising.

[Mauroa]

There's a reason why it was made - originally to act as a harbor to people 'blacklisted' by a bloc of the general the NSGP community.

False. Don't make stuff up if you don't know what you're talking about. Sanctum was made so Affray could take the reigns of the TWC community as well as move to a new region because "The Wolf Clan" was generally accepted to be a terrible name. If you consider right wing nations as OOC blacklisted then you're the problem lmao.

While a great percentage of the NSGP community sucks in it's own special ways, half the people on the informal 'blacklist' that bloc of regions share are actually pretty fucking bad - manipulators, doxxers, pedophiles. The other half? 'Nazis', though that's a very subjective and loose term that's thrown around too often.

You basically just said that Layem and Sanctum are doxxers and pedophiles. That's all I'm going to say.

As for Nazis? Last I checked Nazis were banned on this site. Being right wing doesn't make you a Nazi, pal. I was allied to Sanctum and even closer to Affray (RIP) and I only came across one fascist who I believe was from Genua (don't quote me on that). Sanctum was an openly conservative region with a religious theme, they attract everyone from the right but were not a fascist region. Contrary to popular belief fascism doesn't make you an evil person, and by extension your political views and nation on a video game doesn't reflect you're IRL character which is something people on this site seem to forget.

We're all human

The Layem Foreign Ministry will continue it's relations with Sanctum in their new region, Nova Sanctum. Keep in mind this region lacks the individuals that so many people hated, and should not be harassed due to the need of keeping the community of Sanctum alive.

Funny you should mention that.

I popped over to their Discord, and they are still harbouring the exact same DOS and Blacklisted players there.

Affray is DOSed, yes. I like to think if anyone's founder was DOSed they wouldn't shoo them from their community right away. And to clarify he was DOSed for "general misbehavior".

As for blacklisted players DC fled the region and their discord (DC is also in TNP with a large amount of endos btw). I couldn't think of anyone else that could be considered "backlisted" for any other reason than just being in Sanctum gets you "blacklisted".

Discord isn't Nationstates. There's nothing to do if discord support won't do anything. Isn't anybody's responsibility either besides the sanctum people. Better idea is to just steer clear.

Trust me we tried and they came after us and harassed our members and went after a region of former Declansburg members. Karma came right back to them

Looking back at our RMB you harassed us for 3 days straight. Your founder is highly unprofessional and not as smart as he thinks he is. I'd blame your regional government for the war that you lost.

[Straona]

There's a reason why it was made - originally to act as a harbor to people 'blacklisted' by a bloc of the general the NSGP community.

False. Don't make stuff up if you don't know what you're talking about. Sanctum was made so Affray could take the reigns of the TWC community as well as move to a new region because "The Wolf Clan" was generally accepted to be a terrible name. If you consider right wing nations as OOC blacklisted then you're the problem lmao.

While a great percentage of the NSGP community sucks in it's own special ways, half the people on the informal 'blacklist' that bloc of regions share are actually pretty fucking bad - manipulators, doxxers, pedophiles. The other half? 'Nazis', though that's a very subjective and loose term that's thrown around too often.

You basically just said that Layem and Sanctum are doxxers and pedophiles. That's all I'm going to say.

As for Nazis? Last I checked Nazis were banned on this site. Being right wing doesn't make you a Nazi, pal. I was allied to Sanctum and even closer to Affray (RIP) and I only came across one fascist who I believe was from Genua (don't quote me on that). Sanctum was an openly conservative region with a religious theme, they attract everyone from the right but were not a fascist region. Contrary to popular belief fascism doesn't make you an evil person, and by extension your political views and nation on a video game doesn't reflect you're IRL character which is something people on this site seem to forget.

We're all human

Funny you should mention that.

I popped over to their Discord, and they are still harbouring the exact same DOS and Blacklisted players there.

Affray is DOSed, yes. I like to think if anyone's founder was DOSed they wouldn't shoo them from their community right away. And to clarify he was DOSed for "general misbehavior".

As for blacklisted players DC fled the region and their discord (DC is also in TNP with a large amount of endos btw). I couldn't think of anyone else that could be considered "backlisted" for any other reason than just being in Sanctum gets you "blacklisted".

Trust me we tried and they came after us and harassed our members and went after a region of former Declansburg members. Karma came right back to them

Looking back at our RMB you harassed us for 3 days straight. Your founder is highly unprofessional and not as smart as he thinks he is. I'd blame your regional government for the war that you lost.

We lost yet we haven't lost as many nations as you and Affray said we would we actually got bigger, Sanctum got sacked, Affray got banned. Your region didn't get bigger it remained the same so no we didn't lose. If anything your group did since one of your core allies is GONE. You claim Brad wasn't professional yet you called him slurs on Discord and wanted to destroy a region for no good reason. In the end you LOST. It wasn't even a war it was you guys trying to start trouble and FAILING. Then you try to tell US how to run OUR region. Tried to force us to follow rules of your "grand" alliance of regions and us not caring cause its OUR region and we will run it how we see fit which has gotten us more members.

[Mauroa]

We lost yet we haven't lost as many nations as you and Affray said we would we actually got bigger, Sanctum got sacked, Affray got banned. Your region didn't get bigger it remained the same so no we didn't lose. If anything your group did since one of your core allies is GONE. You claim Brad wasn't professional yet you called him slurs on Discord and wanted to destroy a region for no good reason. In the end you LOST. It wasn't even a war it was you guys trying to start trouble and FAILING. Then you try to tell US how to run OUR region. Tried to force us to follow rules of your "grand" alliance of regions and us not caring cause its OUR region and we will run it how we see fit which has gotten us more members.

Sanctum has moved to Nova Sanctum, so your statement about losing an ally is wrong.

And last I checked Declansburg had 100 nations CTE 3 days ago in one update. And if you want to continue playing the slur game, go take a look at Odinburgh's private discord server. I believe a single slur was said about Brad in the Sanctum discord and you blew it out of proportion. Also if we lost why did Brad sign a surrender document? Why did Alpha retire from NS and destroy TWC? Why is Kaiserriech clinging onto relevancy by allying with Declansburg?

To stop the "bullying and harassment"?? None of which has even been proven one month after the declaration of war on Declansburg.

And yes, Brad has continued his obligation to the terms of surrender he signed a few weeks ago by refusing to poach from the GCOR and her affiliated regions.

[Straona]

We lost yet we haven't lost as many nations as you and Affray said we would we actually got bigger, Sanctum got sacked, Affray got banned. Your region didn't get bigger it remained the same so no we didn't lose. If anything your group did since one of your core allies is GONE. You claim Brad wasn't professional yet you called him slurs on Discord and wanted to destroy a region for no good reason. In the end you LOST. It wasn't even a war it was you guys trying to start trouble and FAILING. Then you try to tell US how to run OUR region. Tried to force us to follow rules of your "grand" alliance of regions and us not caring cause its OUR region and we will run it how we see fit which has gotten us more members.

Sanctum has moved to Nova Sanctum, so your statement about losing an ally is wrong.

And last I checked Declansburg had 100 nations CTE 3 days ago in one update. And if you want to continue playing the slur game, go take a look at Odinburgh's private discord server. I believe a single slur was said about Brad in the Sanctum discord and you blew it out of proportion. Also if we lost why did Brad sign a surrender document? Why did Alpha retire from NS and destroy TWC? Why is Kaiserriech clinging onto relevancy by allying with Declansburg?

To stop the "bullying and harassment"?? None of which has even been proven one month after the declaration of war on Declansburg.

And yes, Brad has continued his obligation to the terms of surrender he signed a few weeks ago by refusing to poach from the GCOR and her affiliated regions.

One those 100 nations were trading card puppets so your claim of us having 100 nations CTE are inaccurate.

Nova Sanctum hasn't gained many people you know why? Nobody likes them. You and them give conservatives a BAD name. That treaty wasn't a surrender it was a pause. We're still recruiting and you're staying put. So no just cause somebody signs a treaty doesn't mean they lose, it just pauses conflict.

You didn't win now in the words of your leech in Affray, "cope" the only way you actually win is if Declansburg cease and that will not happen anytime soon.

[Straona]

We lost yet we haven't lost as many nations as you and Affray said we would we actually got bigger, Sanctum got sacked, Affray got banned. Your region didn't get bigger it remained the same so no we didn't lose. If anything your group did since one of your core allies is GONE. You claim Brad wasn't professional yet you called him slurs on Discord and wanted to destroy a region for no good reason. In the end you LOST. It wasn't even a war it was you guys trying to start trouble and FAILING. Then you try to tell US how to run OUR region. Tried to force us to follow rules of your "grand" alliance of regions and us not caring cause its OUR region and we will run it how we see fit which has gotten us more members.

Sanctum has moved to Nova Sanctum, so your statement about losing an ally is wrong.

And last I checked Declansburg had 100 nations CTE 3 days ago in one update. And if you want to continue playing the slur game, go take a look at Odinburgh's private discord server. I believe a single slur was said about Brad in the Sanctum discord and you blew it out of proportion. Also if we lost why did Brad sign a surrender document? Why did Alpha retire from NS and destroy TWC? Why is Kaiserriech clinging onto relevancy by allying with Declansburg?

To stop the "bullying and harassment"?? None of which has even been proven one month after the declaration of war on Declansburg.

And yes, Brad has continued his obligation to the terms of surrender he signed a few weeks ago by refusing to poach from the GCOR and her affiliated regions.

Why should we have to stop recruiting from your regions? In the end its legal we just choose more lucrative methods that have worked well for us. We don't need to recruit from your group of regions when we could just go somewhere else and get more

[Layem]

Sanctum has moved to Nova Sanctum, so your statement about losing an ally is wrong.

And last I checked Declansburg had 100 nations CTE 3 days ago in one update. And if you want to continue playing the slur game, go take a look at Odinburgh's private discord server. I believe a single slur was said about Brad in the Sanctum discord and you blew it out of proportion. Also if we lost why did Brad sign a surrender document? Why did Alpha retire from NS and destroy TWC? Why is Kaiserriech clinging onto relevancy by allying with Declansburg?

To stop the "bullying and harassment"?? None of which has even been proven one month after the declaration of war on Declansburg.

And yes, Brad has continued his obligation to the terms of surrender he signed a few weeks ago by refusing to poach from the GCOR and her affiliated regions.

Why should we have to stop recruiting from your regions? In the end its legal we just choose more lucrative methods that have worked well for us. We don't need to recruit from your group of regions when we could just go somewhere else and get more

Because you signed a declaration of surrender, and so far Brad and the Declansburg government has adhered to those terms. This isn't really up for debate. Brad knows that keeping the peace is more important.

[Layem]

Sanctum has moved to Nova Sanctum, so your statement about losing an ally is wrong.

And last I checked Declansburg had 100 nations CTE 3 days ago in one update. And if you want to continue playing the slur game, go take a look at Odinburgh's private discord server. I believe a single slur was said about Brad in the Sanctum discord and you blew it out of proportion. Also if we lost why did Brad sign a surrender document? Why did Alpha retire from NS and destroy TWC? Why is Kaiserriech clinging onto relevancy by allying with Declansburg?

To stop the "bullying and harassment"?? None of which has even been proven one month after the declaration of war on Declansburg.

And yes, Brad has continued his obligation to the terms of surrender he signed a few weeks ago by refusing to poach from the GCOR and her affiliated regions.

One those 100 nations were trading card puppets so your claim of us having 100 nations CTE are inaccurate.

Nova Sanctum hasn't gained many people you know why? Nobody likes them. You and them give conservatives a BAD name. That treaty wasn't a surrender it was a pause. We're still recruiting and you're staying put. So no just cause somebody signs a treaty doesn't mean they lose, it just pauses conflict.

You didn't win now in the words of your leech in Affray, "cope" the only way you actually win is if Declansburg cease and that will not happen anytime soon.

We won because you signed a declaration of surrender LOL. You can be in denial, but it's a fact. Nova Sanctum hasn't even started major recruitment because the region is still a work in progress. The terms of surrender wasn't so Declansburg can stop recruiting, but that they don't recruit from our circle which would include the GCoR and GCOR aligned regions. Which so far, Brad has abided by these terms.

And yet again you're wrong. Brad started the whole cope business. If you haven't see my video on him you can check it out right here: '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W321TnQ ... acyofLayem

[RiderSyl]

Judging by that link, even YouTube is shocked at Layem's behavior.

[Mauroa]

Judging by that link, even YouTube is shocked at Layem's behavior.

Link works perfectly fine.

[RiderSyl]

Judging by that link, even YouTube is shocked at Layem's behavior.

Link works perfectly fine.

The randomly generated video URL has 'Wow' at the end of it

as in 'Wow I can't believe you missed the joke'

[New Astri]

Contrary to popular belief fascism doesn't make you an evil person

if this is what you say when you're trying to cover your ass i shudder to think what you'd say while you're mask off

[South Reinkalistan]

We're all human :)

Yeah, I suppose fascists are human. Which means that thankfully they can be maimed and beaten like the filth they are! :D

[Reploid Productions]

We're all human

Yeah, I suppose fascists are human. Which means that thankfully they can be maimed and beaten like the filth they are!

Let's not go into the direction of "wishing violence on people", thank you.

[New Astri]

Let's not go into the direction of "wishing violence on people", thank you.

this sort of thing makes admin team's continued allowance 4 fascism on this site really embarrassing. fascism as an ideology is built on not only wishing violence on people, but actively enacting it. letting someone whose belief system is responsible for both some of the worst atrocities in human history and for murder and hatecrimes around the world today casually hang around espousing the benefits of their ideology but shutting down someone who...[checks notes] Knows The Above Is Bad is just shamefully complicit. if you thought an empty threat to punch someone online was bad, wait until you find out what fascists do to minority groups! we as a community really deserve better than this.

(edit: forgot a word. anyway, ban on fash when? we all want one)

[Mauroa]

Contrary to popular belief fascism doesn't make you an evil person

if this is what you say when you're trying to cover your ass i shudder to think what you'd say while you're mask off

I'm not covering anything lmao. Layem is a free region, a region of libertarianism. All ideologies welcome. Feel free to be angry about it