Confederacy of Layem | VICTORY

[Mauroa]

We're all human

Yeah, I suppose fascists are human. Which means that thankfully they can be maimed and beaten like the filth they are!

Advocating for beating and death because of an ideology. NSGPer moment.

[Untecna]

Yeah, I suppose fascists are human. Which means that thankfully they can be maimed and beaten like the filth they are!

Advocating for beating and death because of an ideology. NSGPer moment.

Assuming that fascism is just okay and doesn't seek out to harm those who the leader doesn't like.

You know, like Jews. And homosexuals. And so on.

Jesus Christ this take is bad

[South Reinkalistan]

Yeah, I suppose fascists are human. Which means that thankfully they can be maimed and beaten like the filth they are!

Advocating for beating and death because of an ideology. NSGPer moment.

wallahi the only tolerable ideology is marxism-leninism, surely

[Mauroa]

Advocating for beating and death because of an ideology. NSGPer moment.

Assuming that fascism is just okay and doesn't seek out to harm those who the leader doesn't like.

You know, like Jews. And homosexuals. And so on.

Jesus Christ this take is bad

What about the deaths caused by Communism?

What about the deaths caused by Capitalism in South East Asia with terrible conditions and low pay?

Why aren't we going after everyone at this point. It's a trend. Right now you are hopping on the trend of hating fascists (where there are very little left on this site btw). Every ideology has good parts, and bad parts. It's a site about politics, stop trying to silence. If you want to fight fascism you fight it with words and persuasion, not going around harassing conservatives regions because they don't agree with the LGBT movement lmao. The leftists/liberals on their site hurt the bash the fash movement when they call everyone right of centrist a fascist. Please be smarter.

[Untecna]

Assuming that fascism is just okay and doesn't seek out to harm those who the leader doesn't like.

You know, like Jews. And homosexuals. And so on.

Jesus Christ this take is bad

What about the deaths caused by Communism?

What about the deaths caused by Capitalism in South East Asia with terrible conditions and low pay?

Why aren't we going after everyone at this point. It's a trend. Right now you are hopping on the trend of hating fascists (where there are very little left on this site btw). Every ideology has good parts, and bad parts. It's a site about politics, stop trying to silence. If you want to fight fascism you fight it with words and persuasion, not going around harassing conservatives regions because they don't agree with the LGBT movement lmao. The leftists/liberals on their site hurt the bash the fash movement when they call everyone right of centrist a fascist. Please be smarter.

Whataboutism doesn't actually get you anywhere. The topic was the deliberate targeting of certain ethnic and religious groups by fascists because you were basically defending fascists, though not maybe their ideology, rather their "humanity" which, let's be honest, I don't think they have.

They lost their souls a long time ago.

[Mauroa]

What about the deaths caused by Communism?

What about the deaths caused by Capitalism in South East Asia with terrible conditions and low pay?

Why aren't we going after everyone at this point. It's a trend. Right now you are hopping on the trend of hating fascists (where there are very little left on this site btw). Every ideology has good parts, and bad parts. It's a site about politics, stop trying to silence. If you want to fight fascism you fight it with words and persuasion, not going around harassing conservatives regions because they don't agree with the LGBT movement lmao. The leftists/liberals on their site hurt the bash the fash movement when they call everyone right of centrist a fascist. Please be smarter.

Whataboutism doesn't actually get you anywhere. The topic was the deliberate targeting of certain ethnic and religious groups by fascists because you were basically defending fascists, though not maybe their ideology, rather their "humanity" which, let's be honest, I don't think they have.

They lost their souls a long time ago.

No it's a real question. Why wouldn't you go after a Stalinist or a Maoist?

[Untecna]

Whataboutism doesn't actually get you anywhere. The topic was the deliberate targeting of certain ethnic and religious groups by fascists because you were basically defending fascists, though not maybe their ideology, rather their "humanity" which, let's be honest, I don't think they have.

They lost their souls a long time ago.

No it's a real question. Why wouldn't you go after a Stalinist or a Maoist?

Mao attempted (very poorly and with no consideration for how things work) a quick industrialization and mass farming campaign, which ended horrendously. I recognize that was a failure.

Stalin was purely horrible, no saving his ass. I do recognize that.

The problem is that you assume I don't recognize flaws in history as flaws in history. To further recognize those flaws, the ideas of Marx and other prominent socialists were meant for developed countries, not China and Russia, and though they did eventually develop, it was at a terrible loss and I can not see that in a good light.

However, using whataboutisms about such people and times and actions when the topic was fascism being bad is not appropriate debate, nor will it ever be.

One bad action can not be defended with another, and yet you assume I do not follow this. I do not defend Stalin, Pol Pot, the Kims, and Mao, but I also do not defend Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco. Purely speaking, none of those people can be defended for their terrible choices, and I most definitely will not and do not.

I may be a socialist. It doesn't mean I support all socialism.

[Reploid Productions]

NSG is thataway for all your "Which ideology has the higher body count?" argument needs.

[Straona]

One those 100 nations were trading card puppets so your claim of us having 100 nations CTE are inaccurate.

Nova Sanctum hasn't gained many people you know why? Nobody likes them. You and them give conservatives a BAD name. That treaty wasn't a surrender it was a pause. We're still recruiting and you're staying put. So no just cause somebody signs a treaty doesn't mean they lose, it just pauses conflict.

You didn't win now in the words of your leech in Affray, "cope" the only way you actually win is if Declansburg cease and that will not happen anytime soon.

We won because you signed a declaration of surrender LOL. You can be in denial, but it's a fact. Nova Sanctum hasn't even started major recruitment because the region is still a work in progress. The terms of surrender wasn't so Declansburg can stop recruiting, but that they don't recruit from our circle which would include the GCoR and GCOR aligned regions. Which so far, Brad has abided by these terms.

And yet again you're wrong. Brad started the whole cope business. If you haven't see my video on him you can check it out right here: '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W321TnQ ... acyofLayem

Quit trying to act like you're morally superior or a good person. You're literally a two-faced rat who acts all innocent in public yet behind closed doors you are just a transphobic prick.

[Reploid Productions]

You're literally a two-faced rat who acts all innocent in public yet behind closed doors you are just a transphobic prick.

*** 1-day ban for flaming. ***

[Mauroa]

We won because you signed a declaration of surrender LOL. You can be in denial, but it's a fact. Nova Sanctum hasn't even started major recruitment because the region is still a work in progress. The terms of surrender wasn't so Declansburg can stop recruiting, but that they don't recruit from our circle which would include the GCoR and GCOR aligned regions. Which so far, Brad has abided by these terms.

And yet again you're wrong. Brad started the whole cope business. If you haven't see my video on him you can check it out right here: '

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W321TnQ ... acyofLayem

Quit trying to act like you're morally superior or a good person. You're literally a two-faced rat who acts all innocent in public yet behind closed doors you are just a transphobic prick.

Classic Declansburg moment. Our RMB shows the level of maturity your region holds, sorry no one takes you seriously. As for the two face comment I'm not sure you know what that means?? I've been straight forward but you guys have a hard time differentiating between IC and OOC (yet again a declansburg moment). And idek where this transphobic comment even came from. I mean yeah it's true I've been a practicing Catholic for 25 years sorry to burst your bubble. Go raid me for it . We have LGBT members in our region who dont care because they respect true freedom of speech and liberty.

Layem go Bràch

[RiderSyl]

And idek where this transphobic comment even came from. I mean yeah it's true I've been a practicing Catholic for 25 years sorry to burst your bubble.

Proudly admitting to transphobia by using your Catholicism as an excuse is very interesting. I know Catholic players that treat trans players with dignity and respect, so you really don't have an out there.

We have LGBT members in our region who dont care because they respect true freedom of speech and liberty.

Good for them. Doesn't absolve you.

Go raid me for it .

Mind if I get that in triplicate?

[Mauroa]

Proudly admitting to transphobia by using your Catholicism as an excuse is very interesting. I know Catholic players that treat trans players with dignity and respect, so you really don't have an out there.

"You don't agree with my sexual lifestyle there for you must hate me and hate transpeople by harassing and disrespecting them." Classic. I love it. Hate the sin, not the sinner. I don't go around trying to destroy LGBT regions fueled by hate (destroying Sanctum and disrespecting it as a religious region) unlike leftists on this site.

Good for them. Doesn't absolve you.

I like how you think I'm trying to be validated. After 5 years now I'm seeking validation by "RiderSyl" on Nationstates? I only seek validation from the Founding Fathers, my Family, and my region mates. No one in Layem agrees with: disapprove of my lifestyle = i hate you and you're evil

Mind if I get that in triplicate?

Go raid me for it. I'll make another region and get 300-500 people in it like I'm doing now.

[RiderSyl]

"You don't agree with my sexual lifestyle there for you must hate me and hate transpeople by harassing and disrespecting them." Classic. I love it.

No one in Layem agrees with: disapprove of my lifestyle = i hate you and you're evil

... You admitted to the transphobia being true and tried to say it was because you've been Catholic for 25 years. It's literally a few posts up. Playing that off as a big bad lefty twisting your words is just silly to do now.

I don't go around trying to destroy LGBT regions fueled by hate (destroying Sanctum and disrespecting it as a religious region) unlike leftists on this site.

The destruction of Sanctum was by a broad spectrum of ideologies that included conservative and religious players, and it was fueled by the absolute horrid behavior of players within Sanctum as well as the wretched history of Sanctum. Trying to compare that with the idea of you going around hatefully destroying LGBT regions is either ignorance or bad faith. Or both!

EDIT: The same players Sanctum was raided because of.. are in Layem's Discord, so, uh, I'm gonna go with bad faith.

I like how you think I'm trying to be validated. After 5 years now I'm seeking validation by "RiderSyl" on Nationstates? I only seek validation from the Founding Fathers, my Family, and my region mates.

Making the concept of getting validation from me sound like it would be delusional and then saying you're seeking validation from hundreds-year-old corpses is... entertaining, yes, let's go with entertaining.

Go raid me for it. I'll make another region and get 300-500 people in it like I'm doing now.

Doesn't sound like you're all that attached to Layem then.

[Lamoni]

To be frank, the people of sanctum will likely harm your community in some way. There's a reason why it was made - originally to act as a harbor to people 'blacklisted' by a bloc of the general the NSGP community.

While a great percentage of the NSGP community sucks in it's own special ways, half the people on the informal 'blacklist' that bloc of regions share are actually pretty fucking bad - manipulators, doxxers, pedophiles. The other half? 'Nazis', though that's a very subjective and loose term that's thrown around too often.

*** Warning for flamebait/flaming ***
Accusations of potential criminal activity do not belong in NSGP points scoring posts, thank you.

- Lamoni
NS Game Moderator

[Greater Hualonia]

And idek where this transphobic comment even came from. I mean yeah it's true I've been a practicing Catholic for 25 years sorry to burst your bubble.

Proudly admitting to transphobia by using your Catholicism as an excuse is very interesting. I know Catholic players that treat trans players with dignity and respect, so you really don't have an out there.

Genesis 1:26–28; 2:20–25: According to Scripture, when God created human beings, He created them “male and female” and blessed their marital union. I don’t commend transphobia, but as the absolute boomer he is Maur is literally just following the beliefs of his god. People don’t need to follow the Bible to be Catholic and you don’t need to be so short-tempered. Look at the issue from more perspectives.

[RiderSyl]

Proudly admitting to transphobia by using your Catholicism as an excuse is very interesting. I know Catholic players that treat trans players with dignity and respect, so you really don't have an out there.

Genesis 1:26–28; 2:20–25: According to Scripture, when God created human beings, He created them “male and female” and blessed their marital union. I don’t commend transphobia, but as the absolute boomer he is Maur is literally just following the beliefs of his god. People don’t need to follow the Bible to be Catholic and you don’t need to be so short-tempered. Look at the issue from more perspectives.

You want me to look at the issue from more perspectives? Okay. Let's put aside my previous perspective and try a new one. Let's play into your regional theme of religion.

Hualonia, you just interpreted 8 lines of scripture with heavy literalism, which is strange coming from a Layemite. You in Layem don't behave as if there is an adherence to strict biblical literalism. I suspect the only reason biblical literalism has shown up here in defense of Mauroa is because biblical literalism is the best way to interpret the Bible when you're reading the scripture looking for the Bible to say something you want it to, rather than letting it speak to you as it should.

Matthew 7:15 - "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Mauroa claims his belief, nay, his whole region is washed in the blood. Though, is it the blood of the Lamb? I have my doubts.

[Mauroa]

Genesis 1:26–28; 2:20–25: According to Scripture, when God created human beings, He created them “male and female” and blessed their marital union. I don’t commend transphobia, but as the absolute boomer he is Maur is literally just following the beliefs of his god. People don’t need to follow the Bible to be Catholic and you don’t need to be so short-tempered. Look at the issue from more perspectives.

You want me to look at the issue from more perspectives? Okay. Let's put aside my previous perspective and try a new one. Let's play into your regional theme of religion.

Hualonia, you just interpreted 8 lines of scripture with heavy literalism, which is strange coming from a Layemite. You in Layem don't behave as if there is an adherence to strict biblical literalism. I suspect the only reason biblical literalism has shown up here in defense of Mauroa is because biblical literalism is the best way to interpret the Bible when you're reading the scripture looking for the Bible to say something you want it to, rather than letting it speak to you as it should.

Matthew 7:15 - "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Mauroa claims his belief, nay, his whole region is washed in the blood. Though, is it the blood of the Lamb? I have my doubts.

Before I start, Layem is a secular region. The government holds no affiliation to any religion however several of our Citizens happen to be Christian (all kinds). We just really value actual liberty and freedom.

Hualonia, you just interpreted 8 lines of scripture with heavy literalism, which is strange coming from a Layemite.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here if I'm going to be honest. Is being in Layem a characteristic that denies you from reading the bible in a 'literal' sense? lmao

You in Layem don't behave as if there is an adherence to strict biblical literalism.

Again you're acting as if being in Layem means you're Christian and you follow the bible as such. 'Biblical Literalism' is common amongst Catholics, and among other Protestant churches as well. Your argument is an a common one amongst (ironically enough) false prophets that see the Bible as a guide book, or in simpler terms you pick and choose what you want to follow/read.

I suspect the only reason biblical literalism has shown up here in defense of Mauroa is because biblical literalism is the best way to interpret the Bible when you're reading the scripture looking for the Bible to say something you want it to, rather than letting it speak to you as it should.

"I suspect" , maybe just read. Biblical literalism is the way many Christians choose to follow the bible which would include (sorry King Isles ) not supporting the LGBTQIA+ movement which is why 'Biblical Literalism' is being called upon in here.

And when did I claim my whole region was baptized (washed in blood), and if that was the case you are implying we did not wash in the blood of Jesus but in the devil? What kind of reality are you living in right now?

I did enjoy this pseudo intellectual attempt at trying to debunk the nonexistent religion of Layem, and by extension calling my faith and loyalty to Christianity into question.

I won't be discussing this topic any further due to the threadjacking nature of the discussion.

[RiderSyl]

Oh. See, I thought Layem was a duck region because its top-level officials walk like ducks, talk like ducks, have very strong and questionable opinions about geese that they blame on being ducks, etc

.. but I'm the idiot for thinking that Layem was a duck region, clearly. It's a region for all birds, because you said so just now, and you'd never bear false witness against your neighbor.

EDIT: Also, you're the founder of Layem in your own regional thread and you brought religion into this, using it to justify your conduct during an interregional spat between Layem and Declansburg. It's not suddenly "threadjacking" because the discussion isn't going the direction you want.

[Dunedain Rangers]

What is it with people and bashing Christianity?

[Greater Hualonia]

We lost yet we haven't lost as many nations as you and Affray said we would we actually got bigger, Sanctum got sacked, Affray got banned. Your region didn't get bigger it remained the same so no we didn't lose. If anything your group did since one of your core allies is GONE. You claim Brad wasn't professional yet you called him slurs on Discord and wanted to destroy a region for no good reason. In the end you LOST. It wasn't even a war it was you guys trying to
start trouble and FAILING. Then you try to tell US how to run OUR region. Tried to force us to follow rules of your "grand" alliance of regions and us not caring cause its OUR region and we will run it how we see fit which has gotten us more members.

That aged like milk

[RiderSyl]

What is it with people and bashing Christianity?

Religion gets bashed when it's used as a justification for hateful conduct, be it conduct in an IC interregional affair (like here) or anywhere else. If that's news to you, then you must not have much experience in this area.

We lost yet we haven't lost as many nations as you and Affray said we would we actually got bigger, Sanctum got sacked, Affray got banned. Your region didn't get bigger it remained the same so no we didn't lose. If anything your group did since one of your core allies is GONE. You claim Brad wasn't professional yet you called him slurs on Discord and wanted to destroy a region for no good reason. In the end you LOST. It wasn't even a war it was you guys trying to
start trouble and FAILING. Then you try to tell US how to run OUR region. Tried to force us to follow rules of your "grand" alliance of regions and us not caring cause its OUR region and we will run it how we see fit which has gotten us more members.

That aged like milk

Declansburg has 401 nations. Layem has 198. Nova Sanctum has 44. What kind of preservatives are in your milk?

[Layem]

What is it with people and bashing Christianity?

Religion gets bashed when it's used as a justification for hateful conduct, be it conduct in an IC interregional affair (like here) or anywhere else. If that's news to you, then you must not have much experience in this area.

That aged like milk

Declansburg has 401 nations. Layem has 198. Nova Sanctum has 44. What kind of preservatives are in your milk?

I'm confused as to what hateful conduct you're referring to. Everyone else decides to bring up my religious beliefs on this site, I don't really talk about it to much. Nor do I act in such a way that's constantly harassing or offending LGBTQIA members (I have some in my region ). Maybe you'd like to stop by one time and take a look around our discord server.

Declansburg also just suffered a massive rebellion and refugee crisis where 80% of their active members fled to Aros Elyium.

[RiderSyl]

I'm confused as to what hateful conduct you're referring to.

And idek where this transphobic comment even came from. I mean yeah it's true

Done playing dumb?

Everyone else decides to bring up my religious beliefs on this site, I don't really talk about it to much.

I've been a practicing Catholic for 25 years sorry to burst your bubble.

You literally brought it up in the first place.

Nor do I act in such a way that's constantly harassing or offending LGBTQIA members (I have some in my region ).

My condolences to them.

Maybe you'd like to stop by one time and take a look around our discord server.

I've already seen the inside of your Discord server. It wasn't pretty.

Declansburg also just suffered a massive rebellion and refugee crisis where 80% of their active members fled to Aros Elyium.

A rebellion so massive and a crisis of refugees forging such an exodus that they only have a mere... 400... nations left. Truly, how far they've fallen..

Anyway, look, I've given your thread enough bumps, so I'll leave it at this - Quit fucking around.

[Straona]

Religion gets bashed when it's used as a justification for hateful conduct, be it conduct in an IC interregional affair (like here) or anywhere else. If that's news to you, then you must not have much experience in this area.



Declansburg has 401 nations. Layem has 198. Nova Sanctum has 44. What kind of preservatives are in your milk?

I'm confused as to what hateful conduct you're referring to. Everyone else decides to bring up my religious beliefs on this site, I don't really talk about it to much. Nor do I act in such a way that's constantly harassing or offending LGBTQIA members (I have some in my region ). Maybe you'd like to stop by one time and take a look around our discord server.

Declansburg also just suffered a massive rebellion and refugee crisis where 80% of their active members fled to Aros Elyium.

Keep that region out of your petty squabbles