Confederacy of Layem | VICTORY

[The Universe World]

*Chuckles* Well, it seems someone has finally surpassed how problematic my region during 2017 and 2018 was. I am sure this will end swimmingly .

[Affray]

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Anyone watching those events unfold knows that Layem engaged in offisite bullying campaigns against Declansburg with support from Affray and Sanctum. Declansburg rescinded embassies with you all for apparent good reasons, you all retaliated and then got recruitment letters sent from Declansburg and then you all go off and decide to issue orders to bully them with homophobic slurs. Why is that always go to thing, Does Layem have disdain and hatred towards members of the LGBTQ+ community or something ???

Proof? Ok and? Any askers?

[United Republic Empire]

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https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=46844206

Anyone watching those events unfold knows that Layem engaged in offisite bullying campaigns against Declansburg with support from Affray and Sanctum. Declansburg rescinded embassies with you all for apparent good reasons, you all retaliated and then got recruitment letters sent from Declansburg and then you all go off and decide to issue orders to bully them with homophobic slurs. Why is that always go to thing, Does Layem have disdain and hatred towards members of the LGBTQ+ community or something ???

Proof? Ok and? Any askers?

Yep there is an abundance of proof in large files on the NSL server. Including images of conversations in which you and Maur were making fun of trans people behind their backs, lots of vile things were said, that can't be repeated onsite here. You should know that sharing any of those images onsite is against the rules. If people share those files off-site though that's between those people.

You hold the founder account to Sanctum and are just as much responsible. Layem at least had seemed to be getting back to decency but Sanctum has been a bad influence on them. Layem could do so much better without Sanctum.

Edit: to clarify, the anti trans talk I'm referring to isn't recent, but more evidence has come forth from previous events.

To Maur, you all could of handled any issues with Declansburg better than to send out homophobic campaigns against them off-site. Whether you know who is doing it or not, you can denounce that kind of behavior as a founder and if you do know who then have a private chat with them unless it's so bad that you'd have to eject or whichever regional punishments exist. Don't let Sanctum drag you down. I had noticed some improvements before these alleged allegations.

[Mauroa]

I did not see this post and apologize. Sanctum has continued their war on Declansburg, not Layem. They have no proof of Layem "harassing" anyone and all matters of aggression has ceased. I wouldn't listen to random propaganda on Declansburg's RMB. Sounds like paranoia to me. I do have proof of Brad/Declansburg trying to spy on us and "gain a position of power" after the peace treaty was signed. Like I said before, unprofessionalism on Declanburg's side.

The problem is that I've seen what you posted to other regions in the past, there was a homophobic slur that was used to create a large swastika that repeated that slur over and over in the swastika. Then later on it got brought to light that there was a nazi symbol on the Layem twitter account as the "new logo", Layem has accepted members of Genua high command (fascists) into the region with welcome arms. Due to your past actions as a founder and not curtailing the disgusting behavior of your members even going so far as to endorse their behaviors to send out anti-gay campaigns, I'm inclined to believe the other region here that these recent events did actually happen and downplaying it as them just being paranoid is disgusting as it dismissed the underlying issue that those within the LGBTQ+ community could now be self harming themselves due to the negligence as a founder to try to stop and prevent those attacks on them. This shows the exact kind of culture and environment that Layem supports and explains why Sanctum is the only one willing to be publicly friends with Layem as that region pushes the same ideologies of discrimination and hate.

Anyone residing within your region knowing full well what the Layem leadership is doing abroad is enabling these events to continue on and in the international communities eyes are just as bad for supporting the attacks on the LGBTQ+ community. That's not to say that they can't redeem themselves by leaving Layem and going to a better region if they aren't directly involved. There is guilty by association and guilty by direct involvement, only one of those really has a chance to redeem their nation.

Let me switch to this account.

1) Swastika was a blurry image with no proof that it was me.

2) I posted a fascist flag (black sun, I wasn't very political back then didn't know what it meant) 5 years ago on the "Layem twitter" (which used to be my NS twitter for Mauricil) then took I down very shortly after when someone told me what it meant. But yes you're implying that according to this logic I'm a closet fascist.

3) "Genua High Command" aka 1 individual from Genua. We don't discriminate based on ideology here. It's in our factbook, go raid us for it. I'll never bow down nor make an excuse for letting someone of a specific ideology in my region. That's freedom, baby. Edit: He/she left after a week. I would say who it was but I don't remember.

So basically you're saying with no proof but because of 3 things I'm harassing Declansburg. This will be the last time I talk about Declansburg on this forum, but feel free to keep bumping our thread to the top! Brad is upset he surrendered, I know he is. I've dealt with him for 2 months now. I don't order "harassement" on him or his region, and frankly I'm disappointed that's he's running a false campaign on us. We still haven't seen any proof of attacks AFTER we've signed a treaty with Declansburg.

As for the whole leaving our region crap, Layem has stood for 5 years. Layem will stand for another 5 years. Your attacks and whoever else's attacks always fail, and never work. We will be the best region for true freedom until this site dies. Hail.

[The King Isle]

Well, Hualonia was DEATed

[Hermes Express 123]

Well, Hualonia was DEATed

And? Do you even know what it was for?

[Reploid Productions]

Well, Hualonia was DEATed

And? Do you even know what it was for?

Flaming. On top of an extensive prior history of rulebreaking.

[The Universe World]

And? Do you even know what it was for?

Flaming. On top of an extensive prior history of rulebreaking.

Reppy, has your flag always had a pony? Or is that new?
Also, what exactly was Hualonia’s position in this conflict?

[Greater Hualonia]

And? Do you even know what it was for?

Flaming. On top of an extensive prior history of rulebreaking.

Ah yes, deleting my nation for failing to condense my valid arguments into a single message. If I was warned for posting with a puppet in another region’s RMB, what about Clandestinopole? Seems like blatant and shameless bias to me.

[Greater Hualonia]

Flaming. On top of an extensive prior history of rulebreaking.

Reppy, has your flag always had a pony? Or is that new?
Also, what exactly was Hualonia’s position in this conflict?

Oh please, our reasonable response to Brad’s childishness doesn’t count as a war. All I did was defend Layem against Declansburg members who repeatedly left anti-Layem posts in our RMB.

[The Universe World]

Reppy, has your flag always had a pony? Or is that new?
Also, what exactly was Hualonia’s position in this conflict?

Oh please, our reasonable response to Brad’s childishness doesn’t count as a war. All I did was defend Layem against Declansburg members who repeatedly left anti-Layem posts in our RMB.

I’m not versed in this, so I just said “conflict”. Sorry.

[The Galactic Federation of Avalon]

Flaming. On top of an extensive prior history of rulebreaking.

Reppy, has your flag always had a pony? Or is that new?
Also, what exactly was Hualonia’s position in this conflict?

"Reppy" lol
As far as know, that pony has always been there.

[Nepleslia]

Reppy, has your flag always had a pony? Or is that new?
Also, what exactly was Hualonia’s position in this conflict?

"Reppy" lol
As far as know, that pony has always been there.

I’m 90% sure it hasn’t been there, actually. Let me go consult the Wayback Machine…

Edit: According to this snapshot from last November, the pony wasn’t there; everything else, however, was - so the confusion (for want of a better term) is completely understandable imo - I didn’t even notice the change until you mentioned it.

(Apologies for the threadjack, btw >_<)

[Korovan]

Flaming. On top of an extensive prior history of rulebreaking.

Ah yes, deleting my nation for failing to condense my valid arguments into a single message. If I was warned for posting with a puppet in another region’s RMB, what about Clandestinopole? Seems like blatant and shameless bias to me.

the difference being that the other person wasn't flaming other people. That's not "defending your region" that going out and spreading nasty messages to others by spamming flaming content on their RMB and Discord......which your government claims didn't happen, but here, in this instance, their claims are being contradicted.

I'm starting to see a pattern and I can understand why Bradfordsburg agreed to the terms if it was just to get the persistent attacks to cease in the name of peace at whatever cost. He was doing that for his region's people and his mental health obviously. Can the issue not be dropped ??

[The Universe World]

Five bucks says the majority if not all of the regions involved in this will be irrelevant within two years.

[Jar Wattinree]

Five bucks says the majority if not all of the regions involved in this will be irrelevant within two years.

Six months, take it or leave it.

[The Universe World]

Five bucks says the majority if not all of the regions involved in this will be irrelevant within two years.

Six months, take it or leave it.

I would agree, but Layem exists. Everyone else though? Probably.

[Affray II]

Five bucks says the majority if not all of the regions involved in this will be irrelevant within two years.

>says while in The Great Universe

[The Universe World]

Five bucks says the majority if not all of the regions involved in this will be irrelevant within two years.

>says while in The Great Universe

We are STILL getting new members, more embassies, forging new alliances, and growing five years after being founded despite multiple periods of inactivity. And despite having less members, what our region has accomplished is more iconic than anything Sanctum has done. I’ve been playing for a while and I’ve seen regions like yours fall to their deaths. Never settle with how your region is. Always strive to go bigger, better, and bolder.

[Lamoni]

Flaming. On top of an extensive prior history of rulebreaking.

Ah yes, deleting my nation for failing to condense my valid arguments into a single message. If I was warned for posting with a puppet in another region’s RMB, what about Clandestinopole? Seems like blatant and shameless bias to me.

If you have accusations of moderator misconduct, take it to GHR. Moderators cannot edit or delete such GHRs. However, making such a claim with no evidence to support it will likely result in your complaint being dismissed by site Administration.

Reppy, has your flag always had a pony? Or is that new?
Also, what exactly was Hualonia’s position in this conflict?

Oh please, our reasonable response to Brad’s childishness doesn’t count as a war. All I did was defend Layem against Declansburg members who repeatedly left anti-Layem posts in our RMB.

*** Warning for Flaming ***

[Greater Hualonia]

How peculiar. Nobody is allowed to say anything substandard about anyone here? I doubt the moderators would accept a misconduct report from a repeat offender even if the wrongdoing was blatantly obvious.

[Reploid Productions]

I doubt the moderators would accept a misconduct report from a repeat offender even if the wrongdoing was blatantly obvious.

Report it. The status of the reporting nation has nothing to do with what ruling is made against a different player.

[Greater Hualonia]

I doubt the moderators would accept a misconduct report from a repeat offender even if the wrongdoing was blatantly obvious.

Report it. The status of the reporting nation has nothing to do with what ruling is made against a different player.

That would be thoroughly difficult as all moderators hide behind one name.

[Reploid Productions]

Report it. The status of the reporting nation has nothing to do with what ruling is made against a different player.

That would be thoroughly difficult as all moderators hide behind one name.

Report it. If you are reporting a moderator, as my colleague already explained previously, that's where you report it. If you're reporting another player for rulebreaking gameside, that's where you report it. If the rulebreaking was on the forums, report it here. Rulebreaking that has not been reported is rulebreaking we are likely not aware of. You want to complain about rulebreaking not being addressed? Then report it.

EDIT TO ADD: You don't have to know the name of the moderator either. All moderator actions are logged in excruciating detail. Explain the moderator malconduct you're reporting, and the admin can look at it in the logs to investigate it.

[Greater Hualonia]

My complaint is not about moderator misconduct but instead about how ridiculous the rules are. If you’re not allowed to insult anyone in a game where conflicts and disagreements happen regularly, then I don’t know what your colleagues are doing. Besides that, how come only members from Layem and Sanctum were punished for supposed flaming? I’m pretty sure that a fair amount of misconduct came from the opposition as well. Knock it off.