Balder, Europeia, The LKE to Launch UIAF 4.0

[Salvarity]

Okay, so it's Europeia who is the conclusive puppetmaster then? Just want to make sure, because I swear to god if next week you say that Balder is pulling our strings I'm going to lose it!!!!

Nah, it's you guys who hope you'll end up being the puppetmasters. The UIAF was an alliance of 3 equal regions at first, then ended up being controlled by Onder through TNI, who used Albion's population to go on pointless wars with the UDL and FRA. It's heartwarming that you think the IJCC will be a bunch of equal regions all getting together and acting only according to consensus, but the reality is Europeia is either going to be the puppetmaster or the puppet. Same for LKE and Balder. Who knows, maybe Onder will come out of the woodwork, and Balder will be the new TNI, Europeia will be the new Albion, and LKE will be the same old LKE.

My understanding is that the last iteration of the UIAF began in April 2013 and Albion did not join until August 2013. What was originally a LKE-TNI alliance came to include Albion, so Albion knew very well what they were getting into.

Apparently, Cerebella (Albion King) was the one who started the LKE-TNI version in the first place.

But yes, Albion knew what they were getting into. Firstly, they knew it was an organization based on consensus and they knew THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO BREAK THE CONSENSUS. They had vetos. If they did not use their vetos, that is not a mark on the organization on treaty. Europeia, the LKE, and Balder are all capable of taking care of themselves and protecting their own interests, regardless of how Albion failed to take care of theirs.

[Drop Your Pants]

But what about the open hostility recently of several feeders towards UCR's?

It's mostly been towards you and TBH. but in fairness you deserved it

[Salvarity]

It is very much untrue to state that Onder was dragging along Albion into wars it doesn't want.

Don't take my word for it, then:

However, we do believe that the status quo maintained by the Third Treaty of Arms Convergence is no longer of great benefit to Albion. In essence, we feel the relationship marginalizes the fact that Albion is the military, diplomatic, and cultural backbone of the entire organisation. We are no longer content with this perception and do not believe it beneficial to our image abroad. We are also no longer content to carry the majority of the weight in wars where we have little stake. Though we remain committed to our allies and their security, we admit we have little interest in pursuing relentless warfare against the FRA and UDL. We certainly have no love for either organisation, we will not apologize for past actions against them, and we will not rule out future actions against them. We are also not actually at war with either of these organisations though, and have little to gain from committing so much of our resources to the conflict. With our departure from the UIAF we will be pursuing targets that actually hold interest and significance to Albion, and partaking in actions that actually hold some benefit for Albion and its own foreign policy aims.

Yes, I am aware that reasons Albion stated for wanting to leave the UIAF. But, they had the power to change it and didn't. My entire few prior posts have been all about showing that Albion could have changed the situation in the UIAF very easily if they wanted, they very much had the power. They refused to use the power they had and then claimed they were being dragged along. The regions in this organization will not do either.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

But what about the open hostility recently of several feeders towards UCR's?

It's mostly been towards you and TBH. but in fairness you deserved it

I feel like HEM, Onder, et all, will dispute the "mostly aimed at TBH" bit.

Meanwhile, if actions are deserved, then why, to date, have specific accusations of such deserving actions not been made? Proof given? Explanation? Even perhaps rumor, beyond rumors concerning issues closed months prior? It remains shocking to me how the world has let TWP and TEP get on with treating TBH like we're Nazis, TI, or TRE without an ounce of explanation, without raising any consequences against them. Such diplomatic slander should not be allowed to stand unchallenged.

[Lord Dominator]

Can someone explain to me how Europeia, through the IJCC, intends to militarily target Francoism, the ideology, but not any regions?

What was Topid's region, St Abbanon or something?

[Cormactopia Prime]

This is what the IJCC game plan is going to be:

1. IJCC will invade St Abbaddon, waiting to officially declare the NPO an enemy until then.

2. Having angered the NPO, the NPO will cooperate with defenders to defend and liberate IJCC's raids, and IJCC will thus declare all defenders collaborators with Francoism and thus IJCC's enemies.

3. IJCC will constantly raid and claim they're defeating their enemies because their NPO and defender enemies aren't defending/liberating their raids.

4. IJCC will refuse to name most of their GCR enemies, and will instead wait for someone to coup them, then opportunistically support the couper and claim that region was one of their Francoist enemies all along.

I know this because they're being deliberately evasive about who their enemies actually are, which means they're planning to create their enemies through their own actions as they go, which was exactly the UIAF's playbook. This is, after all, just another UIAF, and the playbook will be the same. Lame excuses for war declarations, "victory" over enemies based on piling in dead founderless UCRs, and opportunistic support for GCR coups. It's the UIAF way.

[King HEM]

This is what the IJCC game plan is going to be:

1. IJCC will invade St Abbaddon, waiting to officially declare the NPO an enemy until then.

2. Having angered the NPO, the NPO will cooperate with defenders to defend and liberate IJCC's raids, and IJCC will thus declare all defenders collaborators with Francoism and thus IJCC's enemies.

3. IJCC will constantly raid and claim they're defeating their enemies because their NPO and defender enemies aren't defending/liberating their raids.

4. IJCC will refuse to name most of their GCR enemies, and will instead wait for someone to coup them, then opportunistically support the couper and claim that region was one of their Francoist enemies all along.

I know this because they're being deliberately evasive about who their enemies actually are, which means they're planning to create their enemies through their own actions as they go, which was exactly the UIAF's playbook. This is, after all, just another UIAF, and the playbook will be the same. Lame excuses for war declarations, "victory" over enemies based on piling in dead founderless UCRs, and opportunistic support for GCR coups. It's the UIAF way.

we have an opening for chairman if you want in!!!

[Roavin]

Also, the interesting question has yet to be answered:

Can someone explain to me how Europeia, through the IJCC, intends to militarily target Francoism, the ideology, but not any regions?

Or, to put it in a bit more concrete terms: Who are those enemies?

I postulate the list includes TP and TSP. Tell me I'm wrong.

[King HEM]

Also, the interesting question has yet to be answered:

Can someone explain to me how Europeia, through the IJCC, intends to militarily target Francoism, the ideology, but not any regions?

Or, to put it in a bit more concrete terms: Who are those enemies?

I postulate the list includes TP and TSP. Tell me I'm wrong.

We aren't TNI. We aren't going to "declare war" on people and have lists of enemies. Geopolitics is complicated and often varies by issue. I think I and others have aptly described behaviors that would to any reasonable person be considered adversarial to Europeia and other UCRs. Part of the hope here is that making a strong statement against such behavior will curtail it going forward and mean no enemies at all!

Anyway, I've explained my thinking as the former President as far as I can. Since I have no real standing in Europeia, I am ducking out. Feel free to send ur love letters via telegram xoxo

[Roavin]

Well then, for anybody in a position to answer: Which each of TP, TSP, TEP, TWP, and Osiris exhibit these behaviors, such that it would make sense to make a military alliance to target either their military engagements or their regions themselves?

[Wabbitslayah]

Well then, for anybody in a position to answer: Which each of TP, TSP, TEP, TWP, and Osiris exhibit these behaviors, such that it would make sense to make a military alliance to target either their military engagements or their regions themselves?

wow. What happened to TRR?

[Roavin]

Well then, for anybody in a position to answer: Which each of TP, TSP, TEP, TWP, and Osiris exhibit these behaviors, such that it would make sense to make a military alliance to target either their military engagements or their regions themselves?

wow. What happened to TRR?

It wasn't known that you'd be the Delegate when they were presumably copyingdrafting this thing.

[Drop Your Pants]

wow. What happened to TRR?

Threats of invasion don't usually work on a region that can't ban people so there's no point trying to threaten us. Unless Euro wants to empty all their WA's into TRR with their delegate, but that'd be funny.

And HEM doesn't want fratt to make faces at him.

[United Massachusetts]

As a fellow userite, I am all in favour of pan-UCR resistance to the Francoist ideology's frightening spread over the past year.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

As a fellow userite, I am all in favour of pan-UCR resistance to the Francoist ideology's frightening spread over the past year.

RTL on Euro's side on something?

Excuse me, I have to go check to make sure the sun is setting to the west still. And Stalker, I can lend you some blankets if Hell is getting a little chilly...

[United Massachusetts]

As a fellow userite, I am all in favour of pan-UCR resistance to the Francoist ideology's frightening spread over the past year.

RTL on Euro's side on something?

Excuse me, I have to go check to make sure the sun is setting to the west still. And Stalker, I can lend you some blankets if Hell is getting a little chilly...

None of my posts, unless I state so explicitly, are the opinion of Right to Life. Having said that, I'm just rabble-rousing. Who do I care what the GCRs do? I have no horse in this race.


Having said that, Right to Life still supports its friends in TRR and TEP.

[Unibot III]

Yes, many terms ago the "Queen of Balder" was our President. She was in that position because she was elected, after serving in Europeia for longer than the region Balder has existed. I cannot help notice your confusion. Is Europeia controlled by Balder because we once elected the Queen of Balder our President, or is Balder now under the yoke of a "new Europeian imperialism"????

You've nailed it HEM. We stand at a critical crossroads in History.

The Franco-Defender propaganda machine has to make a fundamental choice here.

Like any crossroad, there are 2 choices, left or right. Balder or Europeia. Who is pulling the strings here. it's got to be 1 of them.

The dastardly Balderites or whatever they are called - they've been causing trouble since Day 1. But wait, that doesn't fit into the Francoist narrative of Userites influencing GCRs....

So maybe it's Europeia. The filthy userites, trying to force their independent charade onto more of us. It has to be them, after all this whole organisation is based there. But they are quite well thought of...

So maybe its neither left nor right, but straight ahead. Aha! The LKE... the common strand of Evil linking all the iterations of the UIAF! And also filthy userites *and* imps! That works very well actually.

But going straight across a crossroads is pretty dangerous, you could get T-boned....

Maybe its best to just go back at the crossroads rather than left, right or forwards:

All 3 regions making a mutually beneficial decision without anyone being the victim of a subversive narrative.

Nope, thats ridiculous. Hmmm, maybe its more of a roundabout than a crossroad...

It's literally the same people influencing these decisions in all three regions. Rachel was the President of Europeia like five minutes ago. Onder is a past or current FA special adviser in all of them - same with you too. There's no crossroads present to make, you're insulting the intelligence of everyone in this thread with this malarkey.

I also couldn't give less of a shit about Francoism - and disagree fundamentally with a lot of its nonsense - but you and others here are pro-actively volunteering evidence of useritism, entryism, and the imperialistic intentions of "independence" with Balder. Never before has a GCR existed in such a pathetic state. At this point, it's nothing more than a hollowed-out political shell you're using to legitimize your geopolitical activities abroad.

Bearing that in mind, I hope your latest endeavor goes about as well your foreign occupation of Lazarus did. Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooo. *wet raspberry noise*

[Killer Kitty]

I hope your latest endeavor goes about as well your foreign occupation of Lazarus did.

I was unaware that Balder had joined the so called "Peacekeeping" force in Lazarus.

You learn something new everyday.

[Deepest House]

While recognizing that Francoism is a threat to Europeia, I believe HEM strayed perhaps a bit too far into the theatrical in his remarks. Europeia will always stand up for our interests, but we do not seek to make enemies of any region.

[Lord Dominator]

I hope your latest endeavor goes about as well your foreign occupation of Lazarus did.

I was unaware that Balder had joined the so called "Peacekeeping" force in Lazarus.

You learn something new everyday.

I think Uni referring to the weird piling during LazAnarchy, where foreign didn't really matter

[Drop Your Pants]

I was unaware that Balder had joined the so called "Peacekeeping" force in Lazarus.

You learn something new everyday.

Never put you down as a sore loser EW.

[Jahka]

It's literally the same people influencing these decisions in all three regions. Rachel was the President of Europeia like five minutes ago. Onder is a past or current FA special adviser in all of them - same with you too. There's no crossroads present to make, you're insulting the intelligence of everyone in this thread with this malarkey.

Imagine, will you, someone so full of themselves they presume to know the nuanced influences of policy in a region they aren't in. Your confidence is quite charming.

[Drop Your Pants]

Imagine, will you, someone so full of themselves they presume to know the nuanced influences of policy in a region they aren't in. Your confidence is quite charming.

Same can be said for most of the 'GP Elite'. Hell that reasoning can be applied to half the posters in this topic

[Maurizio Sforza]

Well, this is interesting, to say the least.

[Leopardis]

I say quasi-public because both regions' legislatures do require masking, which is probably why this was thought to be secret.

When there are hundreds of citizens in Europeia, Balder and LKE combined... it can't really be thought of as a secret

Hundreds? You can't count the ones that haven't posted in 5 years.