by King HEM » Tue May 15, 2018 8:14 pm
by Terra Voltera » Tue May 15, 2018 8:49 pm
by King HEM » Tue May 15, 2018 9:18 pm
Terra Voltera wrote:What does this exactly mean HEM? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the differences between Zeta and Tapatalk, and I like Zeta. No information will be lost right??
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue May 15, 2018 9:32 pm
A user wrote:If I’m reading this right, everyone is now going to be transitioned to Tapatalk including ZB owners? But Tapatalk will have ZB features implemented to it?
If so my biggest concern is theme breaking updates. There’s no way a ZB theme will work on Tapatalk without major reworking.
A ZB admin wrote:Essentially, Brandon is working on what could almost be considered a third software that is a hybrid of tapatalk and zetaboards. Basically using the tapatalk base and adding ZB features.
The big item all staff loudly brought up is themes and codes. It has been expressed to Brandon how absolutely crippling to ZB communities it would be to lose that identity that many of these boards have had for a decade or longer.
Brandon has stated that the new platform will have CSS and JS that can be edited. To what extent he didn't say.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Solorni » Tue May 15, 2018 10:31 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue May 15, 2018 10:41 pm
Solorni wrote:The GB&I link is particularly interesting because it used to be an IF forum. It's not very pretty. Honestly, I'm not liking any of the options currently. I kind of want to look at only having a forum for citizenship/security purposes and doing everything else on discord... It honestly feels like Balder's entire forum going down the drain.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Solorni » Tue May 15, 2018 10:53 pm
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Solorni wrote:The GB&I link is particularly interesting because it used to be an IF forum. It's not very pretty. Honestly, I'm not liking any of the options currently. I kind of want to look at only having a forum for citizenship/security purposes and doing everything else on discord... It honestly feels like Balder's entire forum going down the drain.
Worth noting, again, that IF -> TT boards are not a perfect comparison. What's been promised by both ZB and TT top-level admins has been a unique hybrid of ZB&TT, retaining many ZB features, including grandfathering in customization CSS. That was not something that was an option for IF to TT conversion. There's some hope left, and TBH is certainly waiting to see what our preview looks like, because if it's even passable, having everything carried over automatically is a *hell* of a lot easier.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue May 15, 2018 11:00 pm
Solorni wrote:Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Worth noting, again, that IF -> TT boards are not a perfect comparison. What's been promised by both ZB and TT top-level admins has been a unique hybrid of ZB&TT, retaining many ZB features, including grandfathering in customization CSS. That was not something that was an option for IF to TT conversion. There's some hope left, and TBH is certainly waiting to see what our preview looks like, because if it's even passable, having everything carried over automatically is a *hell* of a lot easier.
These are a couple examples of current TT forums with skins:
http://urbanglasgow.co.uk
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefall/
Idk, I'm not overly optimistic personally.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Solorni » Tue May 15, 2018 11:03 pm
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Solorni wrote:These are a couple examples of current TT forums with skins:
http://urbanglasgow.co.uk
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefall/
Idk, I'm not overly optimistic personally.
Those do demonstrate about the extend of what can be done with the vanilla TT, and it is disappointing - but it doesn't really show what this new hybrid will be.
by The Bruce » Tue May 15, 2018 11:14 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue May 15, 2018 11:37 pm
The Bruce wrote:I'm not saying that Tapatalk in any way evokes the same feelings as the Clippy the Microsoft animated gif, but I did feel a bit stabby when I saw that thing one too many times. Change is hardest on forum admins, but changing to Tapatalk feels pretty repellent.
When I actually get some spare time I'd like to look at other options. It's starting to feel like the Invisionfree Server 1 crash of 2006 and NationStates2 happening at the same time...
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Reploid Productions » Tue May 15, 2018 11:56 pm
[11:17 PM] Tchemerzine: @Reploid Productions phpBB a good host for offsite forums? It would make sense for post-2009 forums to be made in phpBB—due to the familiarity post-migration from Jolt—but ZetaBoards, for some strange reason, had quite the appeal for so long.
[11:19 PM] Tchemerzine: Though, I don't know how hard it is to build a phpBB forum compared to ZetaBoards, the latter of which seems to be everywhere. And nobody could have foretold TapaTalk taking over ZB/IF back then.
[11:22 PM] Reploid Productions: phpBB does require some minor tech savvy if you want to really heavily customize it, but there are a lot of pre-built variations with various customizations already set up. Most NS offsite forums probably won't require outrageously expensive hosting plans. Otherwise for free forum options, Forumotion and Proboards are probably among the bigger ZB competitors
[11:30 PM] Reploid Productions: SMF is another open-source php forum, though I can't say I've ever especially liked forums I've visited that use that software
[11:32 PM] Reploid Productions: To my admittedly limited understanding, SMF is easier to install and set up than phpBB, but by the same token has more limited functionality as a result
[11:34 PM] Reploid Productions: Over in the land of paid forum software, the Jolt forums ran on vBulletin, which wasn't bad, but it's not free either
[11:36 PM] Reploid Productions: Huh. Neat though- they have a cloud service where they handle all the hosting and stuff for you. Downside, the lowest tier package still clocks $15/mo
[11:39 PM] Reploid Productions: Overall, I'd say that a phpBB forum is probably the overall best option if you've got the hosting and tech skills to use it. Unless your offsite has some crazy customizations (such as how Nationstates' forum is hacked to ribbons to interface with the game), most regional offsites would probably do fine with a stock or minimally-modded phpBB forum.
[11:41 PM] Reploid Productions: I suspect a big part of ZB's appeal was the simple fact it was a modified phpBB forum that didn't cost any money to set up and run :stuck_out_tongue:
[11:45 PM] Tchemerzine: @Reploid Productions vBulletin, I've seen it around, and in my opinion it sucks. And phpBB is free, right?
[11:46 PM] Lamoni: https://www.phpbb.com/ yes
phpBB • Free and Open Source Forum Software
phpBB is free and open source forum software that is easy to use, powerful, and highly customisable. Our community offers extensive support to end users.
[11:47 PM] Tchemerzine: Yuss!
[11:48 PM] Reploid Productions: Yup. Only downside to phpBB is you need to provide the web hosting and do the installation
[11:49 PM] Reploid Productions: So while the forum software itself is free, most hosting providers that will give you database usage (and have reputable uptime and service) will cost money
[11:51 PM] Reploid Productions: And finding a webhost is a whole other can of worms requiring research and comparison shopping
[11:52 PM] Reploid Productions: Stuff to keep in mind on that: Will your forum allow users to upload images/videos? That's a consideration when it comes to how much storage space you'll need for your site. How big do you anticipate the forum community to be? The bigger/more active the forum the more bandwidth you'll need, and so on
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by Cormactopia Prime » Wed May 16, 2018 12:06 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed May 16, 2018 12:24 am
Latman wrote:We switched to phpbb hosts long time ago. I certainly hope that Tapatalk won't get here soon as well
by Frattastan II » Wed May 16, 2018 12:44 am
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed May 16, 2018 12:47 am
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed May 16, 2018 12:48 am
Frattastan II wrote:I wonder if images uploaded to the forum will be lost. >_>
Chris wrote:ZB User wrote:1. What will happen to files uploaded on ZetaBoards forums?
Many forum owners host files relevant to the forum such as theme assets, avatars, etc. on their forums as it was built into the admin panel and as long as the forum loaded the image loaded which alleviated headaches.
Will Tapatalk retain our uploaded files and will we retain the ability to continue to upload to our forums directly?
I might need a bit more information on this. Where are the files uploaded? Are they attached to posts? Either way, I should have an answer for you by tomorrow. One thing I do know is that any files uploaded into posts will be migrated.
Chris wrote:ZB user wrote:They are directly in the admin panel under File Manager. There were a few other spots to upload into the admin panel such as under Emoticons and under Titles to upload directly to those folders, but otherwise you'd go there to do so and could see how much your forum used via file count and file size in various categories as well as going into each category to rename an uploaded file or delete it if you no longer needed it.
They were not post-attachments though you could still see statistics for those as well as who uploaded and where was it used.
Thanks. It has been confirmed that the files will be migrated.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed May 16, 2018 12:51 am
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Frattastan II wrote:I wonder if images uploaded to the forum will be lost. >_>
The most recent link I’ve posted, to a TT thread, includes a major TT admin discussing that a few times. It’s only three pages so far, and worth a read. It contains the most through and official answers to user questions to date. ZB users have found TT’s “Chris” to be far more reachable atm than ZB’s “Brandon.”
by Frattastan II » Wed May 16, 2018 12:54 am
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
by Christian Democrats » Wed May 16, 2018 1:08 am
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by The Glorious Hypetrain » Wed May 16, 2018 5:43 am
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Reploid Productions wrote:Ozmenistan wrote:Wait, is this some RP or what? Or does everyone take NSG this seriously?
NSG is super srs biz. ... Apparently, so is NSGP, based on my current stalking of the GP forum.Though NSG and NSGP seem to have a real thing for repeated blunt force applied to long-deceased equines, so I guess they got that in common.
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by King HEM » Wed May 16, 2018 7:09 am
The Glorious Hypetrain wrote:Thanks for the alert. This seems like the perfect opportunity to move to some self-hosted hardware and such.
by The Stalker » Wed May 16, 2018 8:47 am
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