Caer Sidi Embassy - All the loves

[Boda]

>_>

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Just checking, you do mean new ones right? Not screenshots from ages ago? I remember the old ones very well, it'd be sad to see Enadia messing up once again.

[Badivermeraed]

I applaud this decision and hope that Enadia will continue to improve it's administrative policies.

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

One wonders why Caer Sidi entered into a treaty with Enadia in the first place, considering their administrative issues are fairly well known.

[Kaystein]

Just checking, you do mean new ones right? Not screenshots from ages ago? I remember the old ones very well, it'd be sad to see Enadia messing up once again.

I'm still on the discord servers of both regions and I haven't noticed anything in Caer sidi's or Enadia's discord servers. Whatever has happened was done through other server channels or private messages. I'd considered both of these regions friendly so I'd like to figure out what's going on. If somebody's stirring up trouble for lolz they'll have some unwanted attention from me.

[Blood Wine]

One wonders why Caer Sidi entered into a treaty with Enadia in the first place, considering their administrative issues are fairly well known.

I didn't yell enough about it


In all seriousness, i got an archive of evidence available via discord DM of past issues (not the current one though)

[Aynia Moreaux]

In light of the recent reply from Enadia, both the administration team and the government of Caer Sidi want to make a few things expressly clear, as it seems we were overly vague in our initial statement and for that we apologize.

For us, this starts as on out of character assessment. Considering the sensitive nature of the posts, our in character government played no part in handling this, it was up to the administration team. Once the admins came to a conclusion, the government was informed and we moved from there. I am simply saying this for transparency's sake.

In no way are we attempting to direct the Enadian Union in how to enforce its administrative duties. Every region is free to administer their region as they see fit, without outside interference. It would be in bad taste for CS to try and impose its administrative style on any other regions and this will never be done. We also really don't see an issue with a member of the administrative team holding a government position. In fact, in Caer Sidi the admins all hold a Council seat as advisors to the Monarch. We don't take issue with this. As long as there is a clear separation of when the administration team is necessary and when the in character government is necessary, there isn't an issue.

The logs that Caer Sidi has come into possession of are not going to be shared with the Enadian Union. In fact, these logs are not going to be shared outside the Caer Sidi administration team. These logs were given to us in confidence and contain material of a sensitive nature. For these reasons, we will not be passing out these logs to anyone, and we hope you can understand and respect this decision.

Finally, to Enadia. We have been your friends, your partners for the past two months. We’ve worked with you, we’ve given you advice, and we’d come to consider you a friend. To say that this is libelous and political in nature is a spit in the face to Caer Sidi and a slight to the people who went against others advice to root for you and stay on your side. Caer does not make decisions like this lightly, and we do not make decisions like this without proof. I’m sorry that in this case our hands are tied as far as showing that proof, and it does lead to a bit of a they said, they said situation. But, in this case there is no remediation. We have said our piece and we know we have burned our bridges. There will be no back and forth, this will be our last statement.

Thank you,
Aynia Moreaux

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

The logs that Caer Sidi has come into possession of are not going to be shared with the Enadian Union. In fact, these logs are not going to be shared outside the Caer Sidi administration team. These logs were given to us in confidence and contain material of a sensitive nature. For these reasons, we will not be passing out these logs to anyone, and we hope you can understand and respect this decision.

Could you confirm if these are logs of a new incident or one of the previously known ones?

[Kaystein]

I can understand every community needs to do proper moderation. If somebody is stirring up some nonsense and it's breaking the rules then it's a staff member's responsibility to fix it. What I don't understand is why you're stirring up trouble or at least going along with somebody else's idea to stir up trouble. What do you gain from it?

The thing that happened with Enadia happened two years ago, and was dealt with then to quote the words of an Admin from the libcord server. That's probably not enough to be wrong, but you went and used the evidence without the permission of the person that originally had it and you lied to the public about it. People were led to thinking it was the original person that spread it, which led to them getting pinged to come into a public server and explain how they were completely in the dark.

Most people won't care since this is old news, but Caer Sidi, the result of this is you've just lost a few friends for no gain. I've left your discord, and I'm not inclined to interact with you again outside of this forum or a public chat. Shame on you!

[Yokiria]

Enadia could kill a puppy and Kaystein would find a way to blame the puppy.

[Kaystein]

Enadia could kill a puppy and Kaystein would find a way to blame the puppy.

Puppies are too cute and adorable and loyal to have anything done to them besides pet them, gives them lots of treats and play games with them. You leave puppies alone!

[Francois Isidore]

This is disappointing, yet also isn’t surprising to me. I suppose this is the part where I say well done to CS’ administrative team. Like others, I applaud the hardline stance you’ve made here.

[Blood Wine]

The logs that Caer Sidi has come into possession of are not going to be shared with the Enadian Union. In fact, these logs are not going to be shared outside the Caer Sidi administration team. These logs were given to us in confidence and contain material of a sensitive nature. For these reasons, we will not be passing out these logs to anyone, and we hope you can understand and respect this decision.

Could you confirm if these are logs of a new incident or one of the previously known ones?

99,9% sure new one

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Could you confirm if these are logs of a new incident or one of the previously known ones?

99,9% sure new one

But since they refuse to share the logs, for all we know it never happened.

[Aynia Moreaux]

I can understand every community needs to do proper moderation. If somebody is stirring up some nonsense and it's breaking the rules then it's a staff member's responsibility to fix it. What I don't understand is why you're stirring up trouble or at least going along with somebody else's idea to stir up trouble. What do you gain from it?

Exactly. What do we gain from this? Why would we just be doing this out of the blue, especially to a region I was trying actually pretty hard to cultivate a friendship with? I promise you I'm not some back stabber who likes to push drama around for funsies. I've been playing this game going on six years with minimal drama, and I have no intentions of starting right now. We aren't doing this to stir up trouble. We're doing this because of a culmination of what we've seen has made us decide that the relationship is no longer in our best interest. We aren't meaning to flame anyone, we aren't setting anyone up, and we aren't doing this callously.

The thing that happened with Enadia happened two years ago, and was dealt with then to quote the words of an Admin from the libcord server. That's probably not enough to be wrong, but you went and used the evidence without the permission of the person that originally had it and you lied to the public about it. People were led to thinking it was the original person that spread it, which led to them getting pinged to come into a public server and explain how they were completely in the dark.

I don't really know how I lied to the public about anything, considering I haven't released any logs to anyone outside my admin team? That being said I know what incident you are talking about and that was just one of many, many logs that I was given from someone else. It wasn't my intention to mislead anyone, in fact I've been pretty clear that it was CS's administration team that came into possession of logs, that I was only going to share those logs with my admin team and that nobody else was getting their hands on them. I'm sorry for that original person who got pinged, but that had nothing to do with me.

Most people won't care since this is old news, but Caer Sidi, the result of this is you've just lost a few friends for no gain. I've left your discord, and I'm not inclined to interact with you again outside of this forum or a public chat. Shame on you!

Yes, we know we've lost friends, especially in Enadia. We were aware of this the moment that I dm'd Harry and told him we were cutting embassies and the moment I posted my initial announcement. You left our discord after spamming two channels with a picture saying shame on you right after I announced my mother was diagnosed with Covid 19. You didn't leave with a graceful exit. If you want to shame me, ok. I don't know you very well, and I don't have any hard feelings against you, and if you ever wander into CS again, you are more than welcome to hang around.

[Weed]

Caer Sidi Statement on Relations with The Enadian Union

On February 2, 2020, Caer Sidi entered into a treaty with the Enadian Union. In addition to this we also joined the Enadian “Arcade” project on January 25, 2020, with our Queen, Aynia Moreaux, serving as Vice President Human Resources and Public Relations. On April 10, 2020 the administration team of Caer Sidi came into possession of certain screenshots which showed a gross inadequacy in the handling of their out of character administration policies.

Caer Sidi takes pride in our administrative policies, and we put the safety of our members first and foremost. Considering this, it is impossible going forward to continue relations or contact between Caer Sidi and The Enadian Union.

As of the posting of this declaration, the Treaty of Friendship between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be rescinded, embassies between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be cancelled, and Caer Sidi’s involvement in the Arcade Project shall cease.

Caer Sidi does not wish any ill will towards Enadia. In fact we wish them all the best in their future endeavors and we implore them to continue to improve their administrative policies and standards going forward.

Signed,


Aynia Moreaux, Seasonal Queen and Minister of Foreign Affairs

Captain Carrot Moreaux, Regent

J Kingsmill, Taoiseach

I'm a bit confused what the point of making the "IC" statement in this thread which started this whole thing was if you aren't going to share the logs? Or how it can possibly be that Enadia gets dinged in their thread for an "IC" response to an "IC" post here clearly made by a regional government, but Caer Sidi has yet to be questioned about using an "IC" post to make the allegations? As it stands, this post implies the regional government of CS believes breaking of relations with Enadia was appropriate because Caer Sidi puts "the safety of our members first and foremost" implying serious danger to users contained in these secret logs. This is not an allegation to throw lightly, or IMO to make publicly at all unless you intend to put up. If something has happened and you want to post about it here, then it should be posted here. If something has happened and you don't want to post the screenshots here, why make an "IC" post in this forum from your regional government at all?

I make this post, not because I doubt Enadia has done something wrong here, or that Caer Sidi is fibbing or anything like that. My experiences have lead me to believe that Caer Sidi is fine a region and to be trusted. Rather, I think OOC misconduct and its toleration are not things to be discussed vaguely, and certainly not to be discussed or used in a Gameplay politics sense at all. I wish we would push for higher standards on this matter across the board. Talk about specifics, or don't talk when it comes to this stuff, and that isn't aimed at CS, because every time I have halfway attempted to come back I'm just put off by just how much that is the topic of conversation these days. This post by CS is not a deviation from any standard, but I wish we as a community asked for higher standards when it comes to saying things about players like this, and yes, even players that are not 'in'.

Not a post that will make me popular, but my honest two cents.

[Aynia Moreaux]

Caer Sidi Statement on Relations with The Enadian Union

On February 2, 2020, Caer Sidi entered into a treaty with the Enadian Union. In addition to this we also joined the Enadian “Arcade” project on January 25, 2020, with our Queen, Aynia Moreaux, serving as Vice President Human Resources and Public Relations. On April 10, 2020 the administration team of Caer Sidi came into possession of certain screenshots which showed a gross inadequacy in the handling of their out of character administration policies.

Caer Sidi takes pride in our administrative policies, and we put the safety of our members first and foremost. Considering this, it is impossible going forward to continue relations or contact between Caer Sidi and The Enadian Union.

As of the posting of this declaration, the Treaty of Friendship between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be rescinded, embassies between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be cancelled, and Caer Sidi’s involvement in the Arcade Project shall cease.

Caer Sidi does not wish any ill will towards Enadia. In fact we wish them all the best in their future endeavors and we implore them to continue to improve their administrative policies and standards going forward.

Signed,


Aynia Moreaux, Seasonal Queen and Minister of Foreign Affairs

Captain Carrot Moreaux, Regent

J Kingsmill, Taoiseach

I'm a bit confused what the point of making the "IC" statement in this thread which started this whole thing was if you aren't going to share the logs? Or how it can possibly be that Enadia gets dinged in their thread for an "IC" response to an "IC" post here clearly made by a regional government, but Caer Sidi has yet to be questioned about using an "IC" post to make the allegations? As it stands, this post implies the regional government of CS believes breaking of relations with Enadia was appropriate because Caer Sidi puts "the safety of our members first and foremost" implying serious danger to users contained in these secret logs. This is not an allegation to throw lightly, or IMO to make publicly at all unless you intend to put up. If something has happened and you want to post about it here, then it should be posted here. If something has happened and you don't want to post the screenshots here, why make an "IC" post in this forum from your regional government at all?

I make this post, not because I doubt Enadia has done something wrong here, or that Caer Sidi is fibbing or anything like that. My experiences have lead me to believe that Caer Sidi is fine a region and to be trusted. Rather, I think OOC misconduct and its toleration are not things to be discussed vaguely, and certainly not to be discussed or used in a Gameplay politics sense at all. I wish we would push for higher standards on this matter across the board. Talk about specifics, or don't talk when it comes to this stuff, and that isn't aimed at CS, because every time I have halfway attempted to come back I'm just put off by just how much that is the topic of conversation these days. This post by CS is not a deviation from any standard, but I wish we as a community asked for higher standards when it comes to saying things about players like this, and yes, even players that are not 'in'.

Not a post that will make me popular, but my honest two cents.

As far as sharing logs, I did not compile logs myself. Someone came to me with logs and asked me to promise not to share them outside my administration team. With that my hands are kind of tied and I apologize. As I've said before it does make a they said/they said situation which is no good for anyone. Truthfully with this we aren't expecting other regions to act on this, we're simply making a statement about what we're doing, and people can make of it what they will.

I also want to expand on this, because the logs were just a tipping point. Throughout our relationship with Enadia we have been constantly warned off of them. We had been fed rumors and opinions about them but never hard evidence. Tbh, we went ahead with the relationship against advice for probably far too long. We have had concerns about their associations with other regions in the past and concerns about quality of moderation. Taking all of our concerns together, with the logs we received, we reached the conclusion that it was in our best interest to cut ties with Enadia.

I want to be clear that CS really has no issue with the fact that Enadia has admins that also hold ic roles. In fact, the admins in CS also hold ic roles of Interior Council. I don't know why this got assigned to us or why people think we think this way, but we don't.

[Upper Ontario and Hudson Bay]

I'm a bit confused what the point of making the "IC" statement in this thread which started this whole thing was if you aren't going to share the logs? Or how it can possibly be that Enadia gets dinged in their thread for an "IC" response to an "IC" post here clearly made by a regional government, but Caer Sidi has yet to be questioned about using an "IC" post to make the allegations? As it stands, this post implies the regional government of CS believes breaking of relations with Enadia was appropriate because Caer Sidi puts "the safety of our members first and foremost" implying serious danger to users contained in these secret logs. This is not an allegation to throw lightly, or IMO to make publicly at all unless you intend to put up. If something has happened and you want to post about it here, then it should be posted here. If something has happened and you don't want to post the screenshots here, why make an "IC" post in this forum from your regional government at all?

I make this post, not because I doubt Enadia has done something wrong here, or that Caer Sidi is fibbing or anything like that. My experiences have lead me to believe that Caer Sidi is fine a region and to be trusted. Rather, I think OOC misconduct and its toleration are not things to be discussed vaguely, and certainly not to be discussed or used in a Gameplay politics sense at all. I wish we would push for higher standards on this matter across the board. Talk about specifics, or don't talk when it comes to this stuff, and that isn't aimed at CS, because every time I have halfway attempted to come back I'm just put off by just how much that is the topic of conversation these days. This post by CS is not a deviation from any standard, but I wish we as a community asked for higher standards when it comes to saying things about players like this, and yes, even players that are not 'in'.

Not a post that will make me popular, but my honest two cents.

As far as sharing logs, I did not compile logs myself. Someone came to me with logs and asked me to promise not to share them outside my administration team. With that my hands are kind of tied and I apologize. As I've said before it does make a they said/they said situation which is no good for anyone. Truthfully with this we aren't expecting other regions to act on this, we're simply making a statement about what we're doing, and people can make of it what they will.

I also want to expand on this, because the logs were just a tipping point. Throughout our relationship with Enadia we have been constantly warned off of them. We had been fed rumors and opinions about them but never hard evidence. Tbh, we went ahead with the relationship against advice for probably far too long. We have had concerns about their associations with other regions in the past and concerns about quality of moderation. Taking all of our concerns together, with the logs we received, we reached the conclusion that it was in our best interest to cut ties with Enadia.

I want to be clear that CS really has no issue with the fact that Enadia has admins that also hold ic roles. In fact, the admins in CS also hold ic roles of Interior Council. I don't know why this got assigned to us or why people think we think this way, but we don't.

Hello,

I will point out that IC nature of this has brought Enadia under increasing fire as we are unable to corroborate the logs you claim to have, as our Technical Department (Admin Team) have been unable in their investigation to find any content that is dangerous or that could be considered unsafe. We have experienced a general lambasting over the roles of our admin team within our region, so I really don't understand why you posted an IC statement attacking us?

I could understand if you were willing to share the logs that you have considering you claim prominent Enadians feature in them - it cannot be right that CS withholds this information from Enadia and impedes our own investigation. We take this very very seriously as it reflects on Enadia as a whole. Again we are not asking you to disclose the name of the person responsible for the compiling of this information we are simply asking for logs that pertain to our services and our members in an OOC basis.

I have also been informed that one of the so-called pieces of "evidence" that was given to your region is a member calling someone a "bi*ch" in a non-Enadian Server. I cannot confirm this unless you are willing to again disclose the logs that have been placed in your possession. Again I state we do want the name of the individual who provided you with the logs we merely would like to see the "evidence" that you claim to hold in an OOC context. If this evidence is genuine let me make something clear action will be taken, but at present our admin team have reviewed the last three years of logs cannot find anything posted within Enadia that meets the level of the serious accusations you have levelled against us.

I would happy to discuss this with you further.

Regards,

Ontario,
Prime Minister of Enadia.

[TiroDayn]

Hello all, I'm Carrot.

In response to comments I'm going to add my voice to the explanations to make it perfectly clear why we have made the decision we have. The information that was presented to us was not new, but it was content that we had not seen before, despite our inquiries when we were first engaging with Enadia. The information provided context and backed up some misgivings we had from our interactions with their leaders. This is not a matter of allegations and accusations, it is simply the possibility that time will see a problem arise that leads to conflict with community protections. To their credit the Enadian team did work to resolve our concerns but at the end of the day the extra information given to us pushed us over the edge to decide that our community could not work with theirs.

[Aynia Moreaux]

Our newest issue of CSBS is out now! You can find it by going here: https://imgur.com/a/OhERFwk

For easier viewing:

[LollerLand]

Forgot to appreciate Aynia here for making such a beautiful update!

Also, Caer Sidi Gaming Day is this Friday and if any of the new nations(or old) wants to have some fun, join us!

[Celestiam]

Cool update, kudos to Aynia and whoever else worked on it.

Let it be said, in the sempiternal debate of whether updates should be in this form or not, I say "hell yeah". Keep up the good work!

[Caer Sidi Broadcasting Service]

Please find our June 2020 Update below. You can also find a flipbook form here: https://www.flipsnack.com/caersidi/caer ... pdate.html

















EDIT: We're aware that the links aren't working in the flipbook, and I'd like to provide the links mentioned in the updates. You can find the links mentioned in the update here:
If you would like to join in on the gaming, you can do so by joining Caer Sidi's discord here: https://discord.gg/eDXpegE
If you would like to watch the stream starting at 8am EST Monday June 8th, you can watch on Aynia's Twitch channel here: https://www.twitch.tv/ayniagaming
If you would like to check out our Extra Life team or donate, you can do so here: https://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fu ... amID=51441

[LollerLand]

Really excited for the livestream!

[Aynia Moreaux]

Hey all, Aynia here with an update.

As you may or may not be aware, Caer Sidi suffered this morning when one of our members went rogue. Itchkerie, former citizen and Tanaiste, exploited a loophole in our discord in which he was able to give himself a bot role and gain administrative powers. He then proceeded to delete roughly half of the discord and ban over 40 members.

Furthermore, he abused his regional officer powers to delete and rewrite our world fact book entry, change our flag, delete our tags, and put up a poll mocking us.

Hardest hit were our forums. Caer Sidi has fostered a culture of friendship and trust over the past three years of its existence. With that comes an array of responsibilities, and privileges. Itchikerie abused those privileges to delete posts on the forums that are never able to be recovered. Weeks, months, and in some cases over a year of writing was lost.

However through all this, two things have been perfectly clear: Our community is tough as nails, and we have friends coming out of the woodwork for us that we are so grateful for.

Within minutes the region was secured, within a few hours, the discord was back to normal, and we've worked to recover as much as we can from the old tapatalk forums. We are very lucky that we seem to have been dealing with something poorly planned or poorly executed, because the damage could have been so much worse.

What have we learned from this? Because oh boy have we learned our lesson. Security has been tightened up, we've completely redone our permission system on discord from the ground up and have redone the permission system for government officials on the forums. While we will not let this harden our hearts we can not and will not let this happen again. Going forward we will continue to look at ways to improve our security. I would like to offer my sincerest apologies to everyone who was affected by this, and take full responsibility.

To our friends and allies who have reached out: I'd like to give a big collective thank you from all of us at Caer Sidi. You guys have been wonderful and so supportive. Even your simple messages helped lighten the load, and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts <3

Thank you,

Aynia Moreaux