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by Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:54 am
by Badivermeraed » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:33 pm
by The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:50 pm
by Kaystein » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:13 pm
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Just checking, you do mean new ones right? Not screenshots from ages ago? I remember the old ones very well, it'd be sad to see Enadia messing up once again.
by Blood Wine » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:13 am
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:One wonders why Caer Sidi entered into a treaty with Enadia in the first place, considering their administrative issues are fairly well known.
Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay JesusSedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
by Aynia Moreaux » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:31 am
by The Notorious Mad Jack » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:36 pm
Aynia Moreaux wrote:The logs that Caer Sidi has come into possession of are not going to be shared with the Enadian Union. In fact, these logs are not going to be shared outside the Caer Sidi administration team. These logs were given to us in confidence and contain material of a sensitive nature. For these reasons, we will not be passing out these logs to anyone, and we hope you can understand and respect this decision.
by Kaystein » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:58 pm
by Yokiria » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:20 pm
by Kaystein » Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:13 am
Yokiria wrote:Enadia could kill a puppy and Kaystein would find a way to blame the puppy.
by Francois Isidore » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:26 am
by Blood Wine » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:52 am
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Aynia Moreaux wrote:The logs that Caer Sidi has come into possession of are not going to be shared with the Enadian Union. In fact, these logs are not going to be shared outside the Caer Sidi administration team. These logs were given to us in confidence and contain material of a sensitive nature. For these reasons, we will not be passing out these logs to anyone, and we hope you can understand and respect this decision.
Could you confirm if these are logs of a new incident or one of the previously known ones?
Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay JesusSedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:55 am
by Aynia Moreaux » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:53 am
by Weed » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:25 am
I'm a bit confused what the point of making the "IC" statement in this thread which started this whole thing was if you aren't going to share the logs? Or how it can possibly be that Enadia gets dinged in their thread for an "IC" response to an "IC" post here clearly made by a regional government, but Caer Sidi has yet to be questioned about using an "IC" post to make the allegations? As it stands, this post implies the regional government of CS believes breaking of relations with Enadia was appropriate because Caer Sidi puts "the safety of our members first and foremost" implying serious danger to users contained in these secret logs. This is not an allegation to throw lightly, or IMO to make publicly at all unless you intend to put up. If something has happened and you want to post about it here, then it should be posted here. If something has happened and you don't want to post the screenshots here, why make an "IC" post in this forum from your regional government at all?Aynia Moreaux wrote:Caer Sidi Statement on Relations with The Enadian Union
On February 2, 2020, Caer Sidi entered into a treaty with the Enadian Union. In addition to this we also joined the Enadian “Arcade” project on January 25, 2020, with our Queen, Aynia Moreaux, serving as Vice President Human Resources and Public Relations. On April 10, 2020 the administration team of Caer Sidi came into possession of certain screenshots which showed a gross inadequacy in the handling of their out of character administration policies.
Caer Sidi takes pride in our administrative policies, and we put the safety of our members first and foremost. Considering this, it is impossible going forward to continue relations or contact between Caer Sidi and The Enadian Union.
As of the posting of this declaration, the Treaty of Friendship between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be rescinded, embassies between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be cancelled, and Caer Sidi’s involvement in the Arcade Project shall cease.
Caer Sidi does not wish any ill will towards Enadia. In fact we wish them all the best in their future endeavors and we implore them to continue to improve their administrative policies and standards going forward.
Signed,
Aynia Moreaux, Seasonal Queen and Minister of Foreign Affairs
Captain Carrot Moreaux, Regent
J Kingsmill, Taoiseach
by Aynia Moreaux » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:22 am
Weed wrote:I'm a bit confused what the point of making the "IC" statement in this thread which started this whole thing was if you aren't going to share the logs? Or how it can possibly be that Enadia gets dinged in their thread for an "IC" response to an "IC" post here clearly made by a regional government, but Caer Sidi has yet to be questioned about using an "IC" post to make the allegations? As it stands, this post implies the regional government of CS believes breaking of relations with Enadia was appropriate because Caer Sidi puts "the safety of our members first and foremost" implying serious danger to users contained in these secret logs. This is not an allegation to throw lightly, or IMO to make publicly at all unless you intend to put up. If something has happened and you want to post about it here, then it should be posted here. If something has happened and you don't want to post the screenshots here, why make an "IC" post in this forum from your regional government at all?Aynia Moreaux wrote:Caer Sidi Statement on Relations with The Enadian Union
On February 2, 2020, Caer Sidi entered into a treaty with the Enadian Union. In addition to this we also joined the Enadian “Arcade” project on January 25, 2020, with our Queen, Aynia Moreaux, serving as Vice President Human Resources and Public Relations. On April 10, 2020 the administration team of Caer Sidi came into possession of certain screenshots which showed a gross inadequacy in the handling of their out of character administration policies.
Caer Sidi takes pride in our administrative policies, and we put the safety of our members first and foremost. Considering this, it is impossible going forward to continue relations or contact between Caer Sidi and The Enadian Union.
As of the posting of this declaration, the Treaty of Friendship between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be rescinded, embassies between Caer Sidi and Enadia shall be cancelled, and Caer Sidi’s involvement in the Arcade Project shall cease.
Caer Sidi does not wish any ill will towards Enadia. In fact we wish them all the best in their future endeavors and we implore them to continue to improve their administrative policies and standards going forward.
Signed,
Aynia Moreaux, Seasonal Queen and Minister of Foreign Affairs
Captain Carrot Moreaux, Regent
J Kingsmill, Taoiseach
I make this post, not because I doubt Enadia has done something wrong here, or that Caer Sidi is fibbing or anything like that. My experiences have lead me to believe that Caer Sidi is fine a region and to be trusted. Rather, I think OOC misconduct and its toleration are not things to be discussed vaguely, and certainly not to be discussed or used in a Gameplay politics sense at all. I wish we would push for higher standards on this matter across the board. Talk about specifics, or don't talk when it comes to this stuff, and that isn't aimed at CS, because every time I have halfway attempted to come back I'm just put off by just how much that is the topic of conversation these days. This post by CS is not a deviation from any standard, but I wish we as a community asked for higher standards when it comes to saying things about players like this, and yes, even players that are not 'in'.
Not a post that will make me popular, but my honest two cents.
by Upper Ontario and Hudson Bay » Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:53 am
Aynia Moreaux wrote:Weed wrote:I'm a bit confused what the point of making the "IC" statement in this thread which started this whole thing was if you aren't going to share the logs? Or how it can possibly be that Enadia gets dinged in their thread for an "IC" response to an "IC" post here clearly made by a regional government, but Caer Sidi has yet to be questioned about using an "IC" post to make the allegations? As it stands, this post implies the regional government of CS believes breaking of relations with Enadia was appropriate because Caer Sidi puts "the safety of our members first and foremost" implying serious danger to users contained in these secret logs. This is not an allegation to throw lightly, or IMO to make publicly at all unless you intend to put up. If something has happened and you want to post about it here, then it should be posted here. If something has happened and you don't want to post the screenshots here, why make an "IC" post in this forum from your regional government at all?
I make this post, not because I doubt Enadia has done something wrong here, or that Caer Sidi is fibbing or anything like that. My experiences have lead me to believe that Caer Sidi is fine a region and to be trusted. Rather, I think OOC misconduct and its toleration are not things to be discussed vaguely, and certainly not to be discussed or used in a Gameplay politics sense at all. I wish we would push for higher standards on this matter across the board. Talk about specifics, or don't talk when it comes to this stuff, and that isn't aimed at CS, because every time I have halfway attempted to come back I'm just put off by just how much that is the topic of conversation these days. This post by CS is not a deviation from any standard, but I wish we as a community asked for higher standards when it comes to saying things about players like this, and yes, even players that are not 'in'.
Not a post that will make me popular, but my honest two cents.
As far as sharing logs, I did not compile logs myself. Someone came to me with logs and asked me to promise not to share them outside my administration team. With that my hands are kind of tied and I apologize. As I've said before it does make a they said/they said situation which is no good for anyone. Truthfully with this we aren't expecting other regions to act on this, we're simply making a statement about what we're doing, and people can make of it what they will.
I also want to expand on this, because the logs were just a tipping point. Throughout our relationship with Enadia we have been constantly warned off of them. We had been fed rumors and opinions about them but never hard evidence. Tbh, we went ahead with the relationship against advice for probably far too long. We have had concerns about their associations with other regions in the past and concerns about quality of moderation. Taking all of our concerns together, with the logs we received, we reached the conclusion that it was in our best interest to cut ties with Enadia.
I want to be clear that CS really has no issue with the fact that Enadia has admins that also hold ic roles. In fact, the admins in CS also hold ic roles of Interior Council. I don't know why this got assigned to us or why people think we think this way, but we don't.
Upper Ontario and Hudson Bay - Prime Minister of Enadia
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