Capitalism is too weak

[The Scarlet Chorus]

In NationStates I have been running a capitalist paradise as to fit my own personal views however in almost everyway possible it is worse then the very common socialist/egalitarian societies which have perfect economies and environments thanks to industries like basketweaving and agriculture. While this seems to only effect challenge mode which is a minute part of this grand political game i do think it is a little disatisfying knowing everyone else has stronger economies AND Niagra Falls in their citizens gardens.

[The Proletarian Republic]

Comrade, capitalism can not enslave your people any longer! Join the revolution!

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

1- Pretty sure this belongs in Gameplay. Personally, I think your nation's doing very well.

2- Barry said that he always had a bit of political bias mixed into the game. This is an example.

3- Commies will find every outlet possible to spread their propaganda. The real revolution starts with me and you, not those glorified collectivist imperialists.

[The Proletarian Republic]

1- Pretty sure this belongs in Gameplay. Personally, I think your nation's doing very well.

2- Barry said that he always had a bit of political bias mixed into the game. This is an example.

3- Commies will find every outlet possible to spread their propaganda. The real revolution starts with me and you, not those glorified collectivist imperialists.

You are the imperialists. You are the collectivists. You are the ones who force humanity into class systems. Communism is true liberty and individuality.

[Funkadelia]

In NationStates I have been running a capitalist paradise as to fit my own personal views however in almost everyway possible it is worse then the very common socialist/egalitarian societies which have perfect economies and environments thanks to industries like basketweaving and agriculture. While this seems to only effect challenge mode which is a minute part of this grand political game i do think it is a little disatisfying knowing everyone else has stronger economies AND Niagra Falls in their citizens gardens.

For several years I answered issues in the most "free market" way possible, and I had max civil rights, political rights, and economy. It is possible to do!

[NotAtlantis]

You can also be capitalist and have great environments. You just need to be careful about what issues you choose and when you choose them. I'm a capitalist country and i am in the top 10% in the world for enviornment

[Solorni]

Let's bring back ACCEL!

[New Legland]

1- Pretty sure this belongs in Gameplay. Personally, I think your nation's doing very well.

2- Barry said that he always had a bit of political bias mixed into the game. This is an example.

3- Commies will find every outlet possible to spread their propaganda. The real revolution starts with me and you, not those glorified collectivist imperialists.

You are the imperialists. You are the collectivists. You are the ones who force humanity into class systems. Communism is true liberty and individuality.

*cough* Castro *cough* Mao *cough*


_{^{*cough* Stalin *cough*}}

[Berhakonia]

Go the Benevolent Dictatorship/Autocratic Capitalism route and your nation will soar

[The Proletarian Republic]

You are the imperialists. You are the collectivists. You are the ones who force humanity into class systems. Communism is true liberty and individuality.

*cough* Castro *cough* Mao *cough*


_{^{*cough* Stalin *cough*}}

Merely the mistakes of more class systems and capitalism.

[Berhakonia]

*cough* Castro *cough* Mao *cough*


_{^{*cough* Stalin *cough*}}

Merely the mistakes of more class systems and capitalism.

Have fun with your post-scarcity hippie LARP.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Socialism is the best.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

1- Pretty sure this belongs in Gameplay. Personally, I think your nation's doing very well.

2- Barry said that he always had a bit of political bias mixed into the game. This is an example.

3- Commies will find every outlet possible to spread their propaganda. The real revolution starts with me and you, not those glorified collectivist imperialists.

You are the imperialists. You are the collectivists. You are the ones who force humanity into class systems. Communism is true liberty and individuality.

Ah, that’s where you get it wrong. Under capitalism, we aren’t forced to goose-step in line with the state’s every whim and command. The freedom of the market lets the common man be anything he wants, not anything the government forces him to.

I guess I should stray away from debates, we are in Gameplay, after all.

[The Noble Thatcherites]

If Reppy hasn’t said something already, this discussion is dipping into NSG material here, let’s get back to the OP and not into this eternal Communist/Capitalist/Fascist debate. Thank you.

[Prussian Polish Commonwealth]

In NationStates I have been running a capitalist paradise as to fit my own personal views however in almost everyway possible it is worse then the very common socialist/egalitarian societies which have perfect economies and environments thanks to industries like basketweaving and agriculture. While this seems to only effect challenge mode which is a minute part of this grand political game i do think it is a little disatisfying knowing everyone else has stronger economies AND Niagra Falls in their citizens gardens.

Go full out capitalist fascism, my old(DEATED) main had a Powerhouse economy and shit civil and political rights, and I didn't give a shit.

Or in other words:
In NS you can't be rich and have trees.

[Imperial Esplanade]

In NationStates I have been running a capitalist paradise as to fit my own personal views however in almost everyway possible it is worse then the very common socialist/egalitarian societies which have perfect economies and environments thanks to industries like basketweaving and agriculture. While this seems to only effect challenge mode which is a minute part of this grand political game i do think it is a little disatisfying knowing everyone else has stronger economies AND Niagra Falls in their citizens gardens.

Go full out capitalist fascism, my old(DEATED) main had a Powerhouse economy and shit civil and political rights, and I didn't give a shit.

Or in other words:
In NS you can't be rich and have trees.

Silly boy, I have both a top-10% economy and a top-5% environment.

[Prussian Polish Commonwealth]

Go full out capitalist fascism, my old(DEATED) main had a Powerhouse economy and shit civil and political rights, and I didn't give a shit.

Or in other words:
In NS you can't be rich and have trees.

Silly boy, I have both a top-10% economy and a top-5% environment.

<insert lackluster comeback here>

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

So funny...when ever a capitalist doesn't have good stats he automatically thinks the game is rigged.
(it just so happens that this particular game actually is)

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

If Reppy hasn’t said something already, this discussion is dipping into NSG material here, let’s get back to the OP and not into this eternal Communist/Capitalist/Fascist debate. Thank you.

Oh, shut up. We’re in math class now.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

So funny...when ever a capitalist doesn't have good stats he automatically thinks the game is rigged.
(it just so happens that this particular game actually is)

See? Even the commie acknowledges that it’s rigged.

[Berhakonia]

The secret to NS is just not giving a shit

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

So funny...when ever a capitalist doesn't have good stats he automatically thinks the game is rigged.
(it just so happens that this particular game actually is)

See? Even the commie acknowledges that it’s rigged.

Well it obvious how am I the top 5% in economy when i collectivized everything?
Communism isn't about making money yet I make an absurd amount every time and issue comes to collectivize.
I make more money than a lot of the Capitalist countries on NS....that's proof its rigged.
Barry did say he was left leaning....If im remembering right.

[Shazbotdom]

Ones nation can be capitalist and still have freedoms.

My nation has high freedoms in all three categories, and my economy is 94.8% private industry, 4.9% Government and 0.3% Black Market.

One does not have to tank their freedoms to be capitalist.

[Aclion]

Ones nation can be capitalist and still have freedoms.

My brain has high freedoms in all the categories, and my economy is 94.8% private industry, 4.9% Government and 0.3% Black Market.

One does not have to tank their freedoms to be capitalist.

Your brain?

[Cozcatla]

This fairly accurately represents reality, though. I presume that you mean a regulated-but-privatized economy when you talk about "socialism", in which case, yes, there are ways to effectively improve an economy's health through the state apparatus. This isn't even touching on libertarian market socialism or a true planned economy (both of which still do better than wild-west capitalism - see America in the late 19th century for an example of the misery of capital, and compare it to the USSR, which became a world superpower within three decades of using a planned economy when it was in perpetual famine prior to that).

Maybe if you let your nation's workers own their own labor value, then they might produce and consume more?