The Enadian Herald

[Enadia]

Welcome to the first issue of our newsletter, keeping you up to date with the happenings of the region. Recently elected Prime Minister Ontario and the Reformist government have been getting to work on legislative changes, passing laws in the new Parliament. We're here to keep you in the know about all the recent changes.



- By Lincoln

Recent and upcoming legislation

Bills passed this week include the establishment of a legal and judicial system in Enadia with the Legal System in Enadia (Criminal Justice) Act. This new act created a Magistrates Court to deal with petty crimes and enforcements to be chaired by three elected Magistrates which are expected to be up for election in the region soon.

The High Court will deal with contested bans, with all High Court Officers being appointed via a recommendation by the Prime Minister and the consent of the House of Commons. Further to that the newly created Crown Prosecution Service, which will include an Attorney General and Solicitor General, who will all be responsible for the issuing of charges against citizens of Enadia. For more information, the bill itself is available here: https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4577&i=1 Enadia is one of the standout regions to set up a functioning legal system, so big things are ahead of us as the way Enadia is governed changes.

Turning to the second Bill passed by Parliament, the Recall & By-Elections Bill, the House has now put mechanisms in place to ensure democratic accountability goes beyond just the election cycle. MPs who fail to attend debates without formal notice, or switch political platforms will now be subject to a by-election. By-elections will also be called in the event of an MPs death or retirement. Additionally, citizens can launch by-election petitions to recall their MPs. More information here: https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 4576#p4576

Upcoming Bills

As well as bills already passed, a slew of other bills is up for voting in the Parliament today. The first of these is the Modes of Address Bill which will establish how Members of Parliament, the Speaker and Ministers will be addressed in a parliamentary sitting. The judicial system too will now include formal titles in and out of court. More information here: https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 4600#p4600

The Reformist government has also been keen to ensure changes in Enadia's constitutional structure are reflected in laws passed by previous governments. This initiative has started with a law registry set up by yours truly and the Prohibiting of Foreign Solicitors Amendment which is a rewrite the previous Act to make more robust on the issue of rights, read here: https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1178

Further to that, three more bills are up for consideration. One seeks to define rights more acutely, and the rare exceptions to these rights (https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1177), the other is an act from Levantx which aims to set up a financial framework in the region, although this bill is not likely to pass due to the opposition from several members and the Prime Minister himself (https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1110). Finally, the Definition of Rights and Methods of Prosection Bill will further clarify the purview of the powers the Judicial System of Enadia will have, showing the Prime Minister's rightful concern about clarification and avoidance of future constitutional conflicts (https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php? ... 4598#p4598).

Technical changes

The layout of the Discord has changed recently, and webhooks will now ensure forum posts are more accessible in the Discord so citizens can stay up to date with government postings or other announcements. The same goes for Twitter posts and recorded sessions which are being done more frequently so citizens are more in touch with the region. Discussions are ongoing regarding the Enadia From the Home project, something we hope can keep people connected as the Covid-19 pandemic continues. Watch this space!

Assembly of Regions Events

A meeting between the Prime Minister, the Foreign Minister and the Assembly of Regions is expected to take place on the 11th of April regarding the Directive and the relationship the Enadian region will have with the Assembly in the future. The Prime Minister is expected to make an appeal for democratic accountability.

[Enadia]

Office of Foreign Affairs
Subject: Statement Regarding the Accusations of Caer Sidi.
Date: 10.04.2020

It has recently come to the attention of the government of Enadia that the region called Caer Sidi has decided to withdraw embassies with us, levying a number of accusations against us. These accusations, if true, would represent a serious issue in Enadia, and the government and its associates in the tech department would take every measure in order to ensure that such events would not occur.

In spite of this these allegations are, in our view, false. Throughout the course of these events, the Foreign Affairs Minister of Caer Sidi has stated that the government has come into possession of various screenshots that prove these allegations. Several members of the Enadian government have reached out to this individual, asking for these screenshots, not only so that the perpetrators of these alleged actions could be brought to justice, but also because, in our own search of the records contained within the Discord server, we found nothing that could justify these accusations. However, in some cases, they appeared to have ignored these repeated requests for information, and in others, have declined said requests, despite the accusations they are levying at Enadia. In the mind of this government, this demonstrates the potential hollowness of the accusations levied at Enadia.

If they are not willing to provide evidence of a harsh accusation or to not bring to justice those who are doing something that makes them feel uncomfortable, then they are attempting to camouflage a lack of evidence upon which they can base these claims. In addition, the individual who supposedly provided the evidence was censored by our effective Firewall bot “The Enadian Firewall” when he (the Taoiseach of Caer Sidi) mentioned one of the words that we were accused of having in our discord server, further demonstrating the vacuousness of these accusations. Finally, for those concerned about government transparency, all of our logs are publically available for those truly concerned, so one can verify these things for themselves.

Regarding what Caer Sidi said in their statement about their intent to “wish Enadia all the best in their future endeavours,” we say this: if those that brought the complaint to our attention care about the future of our region, then we would request that you provide us with evidence to make our community a safer place or we will be forced to conclude that the statement issued by your government is libellous and simply political in nature.

Highest Regards,
Aexodius
Foreign Affairs Minister

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The Technical Department additionally has posted on the 05/04/2020 EU's Rules & Regulations for Enadian Communications Portals giving a fresh new Update to our Discords rules, over Text, Voice and Bot commands.

Read the Regulation here: https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=1160

[The Noble Thatcherites]

(Image)
Office of Foreign Affairs
Subject: Statement Regarding the Accusations of Caer Sidi.
Date: 10.04.2020

It has recently come to the attention of the government of Enadia that the region called Caer Sidi has decided to withdraw embassies with us, levying a number of accusations against us. These accusations, if true, would represent a serious issue in Enadia, and the government and its associates in the tech department would take every measure in order to ensure that such events would not occur.

In spite of this these allegations are, in our view, false. Throughout the course of these events, the Foreign Affairs Minister of Caer Sidi has stated that the government has come into possession of various screenshots that prove these allegations. Several members of the Enadian government have reached out to this individual, asking for these screenshots, not only so that the perpetrators of these alleged actions could be brought to justice, but also because, in our own search of the records contained within the Discord server, we found nothing that could justify these accusations. However, in some cases, they appeared to have ignored these repeated requests for information, and in others, have declined said requests, despite the accusations they are levying at Enadia. In the mind of this government, this demonstrates the potential hollowness of the accusations levied at Enadia.

If they are not willing to provide evidence of a harsh accusation or to not bring to justice those who are doing something that makes them feel uncomfortable, then they are attempting to camouflage a lack of evidence upon which they can base these claims. In addition, the individual who supposedly provided the evidence was censored by our effective Firewall bot “The Enadian Firewall” when he (the Taoiseach of Caer Sidi) mentioned one of the words that we were accused of having in our discord server, further demonstrating the vacuousness of these accusations. Finally, for those concerned about government transparency, all of our logs are publically available for those truly concerned, so one can verify these things for themselves.

Regarding what Caer Sidi said in their statement about their intent to “wish Enadia all the best in their future endeavours,” we say this: if those that brought the complaint to our attention care about the future of our region, then we would request that you provide us with evidence to make our community a safer place or we will be forced to conclude that the statement issued by your government is libellous and simply political in nature.

Highest Regards,
Aexodius
Foreign Affairs Minister

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The Technical Department additionally has posted on the 05/04/2020 EU's Rules & Regulations for Enadian Communications Portals giving a fresh new Update to our Discords rules, over Text, Voice and Bot commands.

Read the Regulation here: https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=1160

This IC response to serious OOC allegations once again demonstrates a gross lack of awareness by Enadian administrators of the IC and OOC dividing line and the need to establish a moderation team independent of any IC elements. Failure of Enadian administrators to recognize, distinguish, and enforce the IC and OOC diving line and punish bad OOC behavior threatens the safety of all players who engage on all off-site properties administered by Enadia.

It is evident that the IC Enadian government executed an investigation of the OOC Caer Sidi accusations, not an OOC administrative team. "Several members of the Enadian government have reached out to this individual, asking for these screenshots, not only so that the perpetrators of these alleged actions could be brought to justice..." Allowing a corruptible IC government, rather than an administrative body with the purpose of punishing bad OOC behavior, to investigate serious OOC allegations not only puts all who engage with the off-site properties of Enadia at risk but impedes an impartial investigation by an OOC administrative body for the sole purpose of ensuring an IC and OOC distinction and ensuring that those who commit distasteful OOC crimes are punished.

The safety of the off-site properties administered by Enadia must be taken seriously. The enforcement of an OOC code of conduct must be enforced by an entirely OOC administrative team whose sole purpose is to keep Enadian properties safe for use. In order for IC/OOC moderation to work an OOC administrative team cannot share information with or otherwise disclose OOC evidence. Maintaining an IC and OOC distinction and an independent OOC administrative team with a record of maintaining the upmost confidentiality with regard to sensitive evidence, is crucial for administrative teams across this site to build the working relationships necessary to share evidence and coordinate rulings. Such relations must be based upon trust and commitment to maintaining OOC standards.

The handling of this case on and IC basis is a failure of Enadian administrative policy, demonstrates the need for further distinctions to be drawn between IC and OOC moderation, and highlights the need for reform. According to policy, administration is broken into four tiers:

"Tier 1 - Peacekeepers (IC)
Tier 2 - Border Officers (IC)
TIer 3 - Mentors and Trainers (IC)
Tier 4 - Site Engineers (IC/OOC)"

Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government. All tiers of the administrative team of Enadia must be consolidated into an OOC administrative body, separate from the IC government. Discussions regarding such sensitive OOC logs cannot be discussed by a Ministry of Foreign Affairs, moved by political interests. OOC administration cannot be left to fallible IC institutions motivated by political interests. Maintaining an admin team is difficult, no one doubts that. Every ruling is hard to make, but must be made as to maintain the security of all off-site properties. This mix between IC and OOC puts all who use Enadian property at risk and must end with regard to Enadian administrative policy.

[Kaystein]

Let me go talk to them. I'd like to know what's going on.

My fellows in Enadia, I'll say this in discord if I have to but not too long ago I tried to help the founder and the region get back on track. I didn't formally write anything down but I'd hoped the multiple conversations I'd had with the rest of the government and Admin team at the time would stick. It's been over eight months now, so what's gone wrong? Any administration should be routine by now.

[God-King Rorschach]

-snip-

The response provided to this incident was given in both an IC and OOC extend by the representatives of various fields in the region.

[Upper Ontario and Hudson Bay]

-snip-

Allow me to make something expressly clear, by the invocation of IC and OOC arguments by Caer Sidi and other Regions. I make the point that they wish to consider this event solely OOC and without IC implication they then must be aware that the entire premiss, they have based this upon has invalidated their own IC actions taken against Enadia. Therefore, I shall now clarify that in fact no investigation was carried out by the Government of Enadia instead the government asked clear clarification from our Technical Department - who are not in the position to engage in regional foreign affairs.

It is also a statement of truth that several members of the government did seek clarification from Caer Sidi on the “evidence” they claimed to have amassed - this reasonable request was rejected - I will point out that “justice” in the context of the previous letter simply and obviously means that said allegations have an IC impact within Enadia which they do. Furthermore, when our Technical Department carried out a full review of our public and private logs and no such alleged content was found, not to mention that they refused to provide our admin team with any such “evidence” to assist them. I find this truly laughable considering their demand is that they (the admin team) conduct this investigation - which they have already done so, and in their findings, I have total faith. Also, regarding the sensitivity of the information in this case all Enadian sites have strict terms of service in place, and we take security very seriously.

In regards to the Discord used by Enadia clear rules are indicated within it and these are upheld at all times by our moderating team, it is, however, ironic that one of the signatories of Caer Sidi's IC letter happened to be reprimanded in Enadia for the use of inappropriate language by our moderating team and moderating tools. Enadia is proud to have a robust and effective moderating team as part of our Technical Department, who have ensured that Enadia remains a safe space for those within and those who associate with it. Yet, I conclude that in telling our Department how to conduct its own investigations without the impetus of evidence or proof paired with the claim of “fallible IC institutions” is beyond reason and further, telling our department how to structure Enadia is beyond your purview. In further OOC clarification, Enadia is current reevaluating our administrative policies to ensure the most effective and efficient administration, this review was ongoing before this event took place and will continue unaffected.

If you require any further clarification please feel free to contact me.

Regards,

Ontario,
Prime Minister of Enadia

[Big Bad Badger]

Enadia always has been and will continue to be a tire fire.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

(Image)
Office of Foreign Affairs
Subject: Statement Regarding the Accusations of Caer Sidi.
Date: 10.04.2020

It has recently come to the attention of the government of Enadia that the region called Caer Sidi has decided to withdraw embassies with us, levying a number of accusations against us. These accusations, if true, would represent a serious issue in Enadia, and the government and its associates in the tech department would take every measure in order to ensure that such events would not occur.

In spite of this these allegations are, in our view, false. Throughout the course of these events, the Foreign Affairs Minister of Caer Sidi has stated that the government has come into possession of various screenshots that prove these allegations. Several members of the Enadian government have reached out to this individual, asking for these screenshots, not only so that the perpetrators of these alleged actions could be brought to justice, but also because, in our own search of the records contained within the Discord server, we found nothing that could justify these accusations. However, in some cases, they appeared to have ignored these repeated requests for information, and in others, have declined said requests, despite the accusations they are levying at Enadia. In the mind of this government, this demonstrates the potential hollowness of the accusations levied at Enadia.

If they are not willing to provide evidence of a harsh accusation or to not bring to justice those who are doing something that makes them feel uncomfortable, then they are attempting to camouflage a lack of evidence upon which they can base these claims. In addition, the individual who supposedly provided the evidence was censored by our effective Firewall bot “The Enadian Firewall” when he (the Taoiseach of Caer Sidi) mentioned one of the words that we were accused of having in our discord server, further demonstrating the vacuousness of these accusations. Finally, for those concerned about government transparency, all of our logs are publically available for those truly concerned, so one can verify these things for themselves.

Regarding what Caer Sidi said in their statement about their intent to “wish Enadia all the best in their future endeavours,” we say this: if those that brought the complaint to our attention care about the future of our region, then we would request that you provide us with evidence to make our community a safer place or we will be forced to conclude that the statement issued by your government is libellous and simply political in nature.

Highest Regards,
Aexodius
Foreign Affairs Minister

---

The Technical Department additionally has posted on the 05/04/2020 EU's Rules & Regulations for Enadian Communications Portals giving a fresh new Update to our Discords rules, over Text, Voice and Bot commands.

Read the Regulation here: https://enadia.xyz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=1160

This IC response to serious OOC allegations once again demonstrates a gross lack of awareness by Enadian administrators of the IC and OOC dividing line and the need to establish a moderation team independent of any IC elements. Failure of Enadian administrators to recognize, distinguish, and enforce the IC and OOC diving line and punish bad OOC behavior threatens the safety of all players who engage on all off-site properties administered by Enadia.

It is evident that the IC Enadian government executed an investigation of the OOC Caer Sidi accusations, not an OOC administrative team. "Several members of the Enadian government have reached out to this individual, asking for these screenshots, not only so that the perpetrators of these alleged actions could be brought to justice..." Allowing a corruptible IC government, rather than an administrative body with the purpose of punishing bad OOC behavior, to investigate serious OOC allegations not only puts all who engage with the off-site properties of Enadia at risk but impedes an impartial investigation by an OOC administrative body for the sole purpose of ensuring an IC and OOC distinction and ensuring that those who commit distasteful OOC crimes are punished.

The safety of the off-site properties administered by Enadia must be taken seriously. The enforcement of an OOC code of conduct must be enforced by an entirely OOC administrative team whose sole purpose is to keep Enadian properties safe for use. In order for IC/OOC moderation to work an OOC administrative team cannot share information with or otherwise disclose OOC evidence. Maintaining an IC and OOC distinction and an independent OOC administrative team with a record of maintaining the upmost confidentiality with regard to sensitive evidence, is crucial for administrative teams across this site to build the working relationships necessary to share evidence and coordinate rulings. Such relations must be based upon trust and commitment to maintaining OOC standards.

The handling of this case on and IC basis is a failure of Enadian administrative policy, demonstrates the need for further distinctions to be drawn between IC and OOC moderation, and highlights the need for reform. According to policy, administration is broken into four tiers:

"Tier 1 - Peacekeepers (IC)
Tier 2 - Border Officers (IC)
TIer 3 - Mentors and Trainers (IC)
Tier 4 - Site Engineers (IC/OOC)"

Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government. All tiers of the administrative team of Enadia must be consolidated into an OOC administrative body, separate from the IC government. Discussions regarding such sensitive OOC logs cannot be discussed by a Ministry of Foreign Affairs, moved by political interests. OOC administration cannot be left to fallible IC institutions motivated by political interests. Maintaining an admin team is difficult, no one doubts that. Every ruling is hard to make, but must be made as to maintain the security of all off-site properties. This mix between IC and OOC puts all who use Enadian property at risk and must end with regard to Enadian administrative policy.

Hi,

Enadia does have an OOC admin team, or at least it did when I was there. The people in it are regularly elected to government, but unless there has been concerning changes since I left it is static.

[Wymondham]

Enadia always has been and will continue to be a tire fire.

^ This lol

[Blood Wine]

This IC response to serious OOC allegations once again demonstrates a gross lack of awareness by Enadian administrators of the IC and OOC dividing line and the need to establish a moderation team independent of any IC elements. Failure of Enadian administrators to recognize, distinguish, and enforce the IC and OOC diving line and punish bad OOC behavior threatens the safety of all players who engage on all off-site properties administered by Enadia.

It is evident that the IC Enadian government executed an investigation of the OOC Caer Sidi accusations, not an OOC administrative team. "Several members of the Enadian government have reached out to this individual, asking for these screenshots, not only so that the perpetrators of these alleged actions could be brought to justice..." Allowing a corruptible IC government, rather than an administrative body with the purpose of punishing bad OOC behavior, to investigate serious OOC allegations not only puts all who engage with the off-site properties of Enadia at risk but impedes an impartial investigation by an OOC administrative body for the sole purpose of ensuring an IC and OOC distinction and ensuring that those who commit distasteful OOC crimes are punished.

The safety of the off-site properties administered by Enadia must be taken seriously. The enforcement of an OOC code of conduct must be enforced by an entirely OOC administrative team whose sole purpose is to keep Enadian properties safe for use. In order for IC/OOC moderation to work an OOC administrative team cannot share information with or otherwise disclose OOC evidence. Maintaining an IC and OOC distinction and an independent OOC administrative team with a record of maintaining the upmost confidentiality with regard to sensitive evidence, is crucial for administrative teams across this site to build the working relationships necessary to share evidence and coordinate rulings. Such relations must be based upon trust and commitment to maintaining OOC standards.

The handling of this case on and IC basis is a failure of Enadian administrative policy, demonstrates the need for further distinctions to be drawn between IC and OOC moderation, and highlights the need for reform. According to policy, administration is broken into four tiers:

"Tier 1 - Peacekeepers (IC)
Tier 2 - Border Officers (IC)
TIer 3 - Mentors and Trainers (IC)
Tier 4 - Site Engineers (IC/OOC)"

Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government. All tiers of the administrative team of Enadia must be consolidated into an OOC administrative body, separate from the IC government. Discussions regarding such sensitive OOC logs cannot be discussed by a Ministry of Foreign Affairs, moved by political interests. OOC administration cannot be left to fallible IC institutions motivated by political interests. Maintaining an admin team is difficult, no one doubts that. Every ruling is hard to make, but must be made as to maintain the security of all off-site properties. This mix between IC and OOC puts all who use Enadian property at risk and must end with regard to Enadian administrative policy.

Hi,

Enadia does have an OOC admin team, or at least it did when I was there. The people in it are regularly elected to government, but unless there has been concerning changes since I left it is static.

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Hi,

Enadia does have an OOC admin team, or at least it did when I was there. The people in it are regularly elected to government, but unless there has been concerning changes since I left it is static.

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

Do other regions bar their discord admins from running for office? Didn't know that.

[God-King Rorschach]

Hey people, join the bandwagon of nonsense called Gameplay.

[The Noble Thatcherites]

Hi,

Enadia does have an OOC admin team, or at least it did when I was there. The people in it are regularly elected to government, but unless there has been concerning changes since I left it is static.

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

Because OOC administrators tend to be the oldest and most trusted members of a region as chosen by the Chief Administrator, they tend to also participate on an IC level. This is common in many administrative teams, and does not inherently lead to any problems. In most regions administrators can separate their OOC responsibilities from any IC responsibilities. Just as each role has it's purview, an administrator must separate serving as an administrator who punishes bad OOC behavior and any IC responsibilities. The problem, in this instance, is that no OOC investigation of serious claims regarding sexual remarks and sexual imagery has been conducted and released by the Enadian admin team. Instead, it appears that the IC government, via the Foreign Affairs ministry, has inappropriately engaged in an investigation of serious OOC claims.

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

Do other regions bar their discord admins from running for office? Didn't know that.

Please read what I have written above. Many regions have no problem with maintaining an IC and OOC divide. Most administrators can separate any IC and OOC duties. Such appears not to be the case with Enadia. Enadian administration seems to be conducted on an entirely IC level given the involvement of government members in the investigation of the Caer Sidi claims, the publishing of results through an IC statement, and IC roles such as Peacekeeper, Border Officer, Mentor, Trainer, and Site Engineer at every level of the Enadian administration team. This is worrisome given the fallible nature of IC institutions and the political interests at play.

This is not to say that IC institutions cannot comment on OOC revelations, however, IC institutions should not be set up to primarily deal with and investigate such claims. Having a "robust and effective moderating team as part of our Technical Department" within a fallible IC government does not negate these concerns. An entirely OOC administrative team is required in Enadia. Until such a time as Enadia establishes a independent OOC administrative team led by the founder with clear-set regulations and a report apparatus, all Enadian properties are subject to ill-moderation by an IC administrative unit potentially moved by political interests.

Hey people, join the bandwagon of nonsense called Gameplay.

You should take moderation seriously, Latrovia.

[United Republic Empire]

Hi,

Enadia does have an OOC admin team, or at least it did when I was there. The people in it are regularly elected to government, but unless there has been concerning changes since I left it is static.

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

I know right, how can anyone be an Actor for a role in a movie ( IC ) and a Regular person ( OOC ) - the idea of doing both and thinking anyone can switch between the two at all is fucking absurd. - The nerve of people to do both IC RP government and OOC moderation - scoffs

( it's like saying NS moderators can't be apart of the game )

[Blood Wine]

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

Do other regions bar their discord admins from running for office? Didn't know that.

...yes, lots of regions use retired prominent members of the region for the highest positions, you know the kind that handles accusations of sexual harassment

Hey people, join the bandwagon of nonsense called Gameplay.

Ah yes the nonsense of "Protect your members from sexual harassment"
Quote, "Arietti is under our protection" - from a TG to MadJack

[Blood Wine]

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

I know right, how can anyone be an Actor for a role in a movie ( IC ) and a Regular person ( OOC ) - the idea of doing both and thinking anyone can switch between the two at all is fucking absurd. - The nerve of people to do both IC RP government and OOC moderation - scoffs

( it's like saying NS moderators can't be apart of the game )

Gee, it's almost like NS moderators recuse themselves under ethical guidelines and don't need the entire GP community to yell at them to do the right thing

.....oh wait

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Do other regions bar their discord admins from running for office? Didn't know that.

...yes, lots of regions use retired prominent members of the region for the highest positions, you know the kind that handles accusations of sexual harassment

Hey people, join the bandwagon of nonsense called Gameplay.

Ah yes the nonsense of "Protect your members from sexual harassment"
Quote, "Arietti is under our protection" - from a TG to MadJack

Jesus fucking Christ, are we still talking about the guy I told Enadia to get rid of back when I was VP? I thought this was something else.

[Blood Wine]

...yes, lots of regions use retired prominent members of the region for the highest positions, you know the kind that handles accusations of sexual harassment



Ah yes the nonsense of "Protect your members from sexual harassment"
Quote, "Arietti is under our protection" - from a TG to MadJack

Jesus fucking Christ, are we still talking about the guy I told Enadia to get rid of back when I was VP? I thought this was something else.

No, this is a seperate case

[United Republic Empire]

"Administration cannot be carried out by IC elements. All administration must be carried out by an administrative team independent of the IC government."

How can Enadia do this, when their OOC admins are still part of the government?

Because OOC administrators tend to be the oldest and most trusted members of a region as chosen by the Chief Administrator, they tend to also participate on an IC level. This is common in many administrative teams, and does not inherently lead to any problems. In most regions administrators can separate their OOC responsibilities from any IC responsibilities. Just as each role has it's purview, an administrator must separate serving as an administrator who punishes bad OOC behavior and any IC responsibilities. The problem, in this instance, is that no OOC investigation of serious claims regarding sexual remarks and sexual imagery has been conducted and released by the Enadian admin team. Instead, it appears that the IC government, via the Foreign Affairs ministry, has inappropriately engaged in an investigation of serious OOC claims.

Do other regions bar their discord admins from running for office? Didn't know that.

Please read what I have written above. Many regions have no problem with maintaining an IC and OOC divide. Most administrators can separate any IC and OOC duties. Such appears not to be the case with Enadia. Enadian administration seems to be conducted on an entirely IC level given the involvement of government members in the investigation of the Caer Sidi claims, the publishing of results through an IC statement, and IC roles such as Peacekeeper, Border Officer, Mentor, Trainer, and Site Engineer at every level of the Enadian administration team. This is worrisome given the fallible nature of IC institutions and the political interests at play.

This is not to say that IC institutions cannot comment on OOC revelations, however, IC institutions should not be set up to primarily deal with and investigate such claims. Having a "robust and effective moderating team as part of our Technical Department" within a fallible IC government does not negate these concerns. An entirely OOC administrative team is required in Enadia. Until such a time as Enadia establishes a independent OOC administrative team led by the founder with clear-set regulations and a report apparatus, all Enadian properties are subject to ill-moderation by an IC administrative unit potentially moved by political interests.

Hey people, join the bandwagon of nonsense called Gameplay.

You should take moderation seriously, Latrovia.

Actually an investigation by the OOC admin team was done as the Prime Minister had mentioned. After review, the only thing that could be found was two gay guys chit chatting about how attractive people tend to set standards lower in order to keep a boyfriend for longer. The Admin team as also stated in the Prime Ministers message also asked for the information and not could be provided apparently - so on the surface this looks like a persecution of gay Enadian citizens in order to forward a IC political career -

What are you thoughts on the persecution of Gay Enadian Citizens?? - Gay people have been persecuted their entire life. To do so to score IC political points just adds to the list of hate commited towards gay people.

The Thatcher that I know would never support the persecution of Gay people. They would though, help to ensure a safer and better community by helping to find out the evidence so that the OOC Admin team can do their jobs.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Has Enadia considered allowing someone impartial from outside the region to take a look at this, who is experienced in OOC moderation? You might find that some people are willing.

[Blood Wine]

Are you seriously comparing administrative investigations to IRL homophobia?

[Upper Ontario and Hudson Bay]

Has Enadia considered allowing someone impartial from outside the region to take a look at this, who is experienced in OOC moderation? You might find that some people are willing.

I don't think we really need to take it that far, we have a fully competent and capable Technical Department moderating our Discord and Forums - they maintain our confidence.

[Yokiria]

Do other regions bar their discord admins from running for office? Didn't know that.

Yes. It's extremely common practice.

we have a fully competent and capable Technical Department moderating our Discord and Forums

It doesn't appear that you do.

[Roavin]

Do other regions bar their discord admins from running for office? Didn't know that.

Yes. It's extremely common practice.

It is?

[Kuriko]

Has Enadia considered allowing someone impartial from outside the region to take a look at this, who is experienced in OOC moderation? You might find that some people are willing.

I don't think we really need to take it that far, we have a fully competent and capable Technical Department moderating our Discord and Forums - they maintain our confidence.

Is anyone else seeing the words "Technical Department" and going "what?"? A technical department is not an administrative team.