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Kuriko
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Postby Kuriko » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:21 am

I thought Enadia knew better than to poach members of other regions, especially after the last shit you pulled.

The Rorschach of Latrovia → tag: wa, -region: 21st Century Rome, -region: The Free Nations Region, -region: The Allied States, -region: The LCRUA, -region: Wintreath, -region: RHINIA, -region: Portugal, -region: The League of Conservative Nations, -region: Capitalist Paradise, -region: Hartfelden
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This is an official invitation for your nation to join the Enadia, received on the 22/ 03/ 2019

If this message has reached you, then I am certain that I bring good news to you!

I am @Latrovia and I am one of the many proud citizens of the Enadian Republic!

Our Union is looking for prosperous nations like yours to join our ranks, aiding to objectives of
making Enadia one of the biggest pro-member regions, ran solely by its users.

If you are wondering as to what we are offering more than any other region, out there, in that enormous sea of regions.
Then I would suggest that you turn around and walk away. Because in Enadia we are not interested in
people that will abandon our community right after they join us.

But, if you are a good man of your word and want to make a change putting your name out there, then Enadia will be your ideal home.

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What you can find in Enadia, apart from a good home and a family love of weirdly good looking people is:

> Active Institutions: Ministries, Police Department, Banks and Player Made Businesses.

> A challenging environment to test and enhance your skills.

> Plenty of training and round tables aiming to prepare you for the future products and projects of Enadia

> Area 51, a place where you can create your own project and have a whole region behind it

> Loving people to help you go through your biggest challenges, both in game and in the real world.

> Luxford University, with Enadian and Foreign Professors. Where you can meet foreign students and work on
many worldwide opportunities.

> A military looking to go back to its former glory

> An active and Interactive role-playing community, with an advanced roleplaying system.

> E-Sports: We're all gamers looking for more people to join Enadia on DnD, Apex Legends and the new games that we keep adding to the roster.

> Movie nights, make sure to wear your fancy pajamas and bring pop-corn over.

***********************************************************************************

If these make you excited as much as they make us, then we can't wait to tell you more about it!

We hope to see you soon join Enadia soon. Until then, a journey of a thousand miles begins with your...own step.

Yours truly,
Your new possible family!

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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:33 am

Kuriko wrote:We are thousands strong.
Enadia contains 116 nations, the 113th most in the world.

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Indo-Malaysia
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:51 am

Ew poaching >:(
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Armaros
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Postby Armaros » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:35 pm

> A military looking to go back to its former glory

Wot.
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Greater vakolicci haven
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:16 pm

Awwww Harry, after I wrote you such a nice recruitment telegram as well...
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Postby Aclion » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:35 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Kuriko wrote:We are thousands strong.
Enadia contains 116 nations, the 113th most in the world.

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Yeah but all those nations have a population in the millions. They're underselling themselves, really.
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Malphe
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Postby Malphe » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:45 am

Armaros wrote:
> A military looking to go back to its former glory

Wot.

Oh yeah, the uh, glory. I remember the glory sooo well.
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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:30 pm

Armaros wrote:
> A military looking to go back to its former glory

Wot.

Hey now, they had a half-passable military for all of like three weeks! Mind you, Libcord basically had to train them from scratch because Enadia didn't do it themselves. That all came to nothing when Enadia was effectively blacklisted for problematic behavior from their leadership, and for generally deplorable content being present within their Discord server.
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Latrovia
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Postby Latrovia » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:49 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Awwww Harry, after I wrote you such a nice recruitment telegram as well...

Yeah, we couldn't technically find that template, so we used an older one. If you can resend it, we will put it to work for the next recruitment phase! :)
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:01 pm

Latrovia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Awwww Harry, after I wrote you such a nice recruitment telegram as well...

Yeah, we couldn't technically find that template, so we used an older one. If you can resend it, we will put it to work for the next recruitment phase! :)

It's in your email somewhere.
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United Republic Empire
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Postby United Republic Empire » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:12 pm

Kuriko wrote:I thought Enadia knew better than to poach members of other regions, especially after the last shit you pulled.

The Rorschach of Latrovia → tag: wa, -region: 21st Century Rome, -region: The Free Nations Region, -region: The Allied States, -region: The LCRUA, -region: Wintreath, -region: RHINIA, -region: Portugal, -region: The League of Conservative Nations, -region: Capitalist Paradise, -region: Hartfelden
58 minutes ago
The Mailmen rang your doorbell waiting patiently for you to open it, until...

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This is an official invitation for your nation to join the Enadia, received on the 22/ 03/ 2019

If this message has reached you, then I am certain that I bring good news to you!

I am @Latrovia and I am one of the many proud citizens of the Enadian Republic!

Our Union is looking for prosperous nations like yours to join our ranks, aiding to objectives of
making Enadia one of the biggest pro-member regions, ran solely by its users.

If you are wondering as to what we are offering more than any other region, out there, in that enormous sea of regions.
Then I would suggest that you turn around and walk away. Because in Enadia we are not interested in
people that will abandon our community right after they join us.

But, if you are a good man of your word and want to make a change putting your name out there, then Enadia will be your ideal home.

***********************************************************************************

What you can find in Enadia, apart from a good home and a family love of weirdly good looking people is:

> Active Institutions: Ministries, Police Department, Banks and Player Made Businesses.

> A challenging environment to test and enhance your skills.

> Plenty of training and round tables aiming to prepare you for the future products and projects of Enadia

> Area 51, a place where you can create your own project and have a whole region behind it

> Loving people to help you go through your biggest challenges, both in game and in the real world.

> Luxford University, with Enadian and Foreign Professors. Where you can meet foreign students and work on
many worldwide opportunities.

> A military looking to go back to its former glory

> An active and Interactive role-playing community, with an advanced roleplaying system.

> E-Sports: We're all gamers looking for more people to join Enadia on DnD, Apex Legends and the new games that we keep adding to the roster.

> Movie nights, make sure to wear your fancy pajamas and bring pop-corn over.

***********************************************************************************

If these make you excited as much as they make us, then we can't wait to tell you more about it!

We hope to see you soon join Enadia soon. Until then, a journey of a thousand miles begins with your...own step.

Yours truly,
Your new possible family!

Click to hide...
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We keep our members connected to the regions most brilliant products.
We answer questions. We share knowledge.
We aim to go above and beyond.
Every time, for every Enadian.

Because we don't just solve their problems.
We restore their confidence in something they love.

We're proud that Enadia makes a difference in the world.
But we will not rest on our achievements.
Because people expect a lot from us.
And we pride ourselves on giving them more.

We want every member to feel understood.
To feel empowered.
To be inspired.

We are thousands strong.
Trusted. Knowledgeable. Unique.
Together, we've changed the way people think of Gaming Experience.
And we're just getting started.

We are Enadia

We are here to help


And a tacky telegram to boot.


So Specifically and Exactly which regions were targeted. I see a tag:wa (World Assembly) - Last I remember the World Assembly was an international body of nationstates law, whose members vote on legislation. aka Not a Region. If your region is awesome and your people are happy then you have nothing to fear. But, I mean, if you feel threatened enough to complain about a recruitment telegram going to members of an international body of law then I would be concerned and be actively trying to make your region better over complaining about how unfair, legal, recruitment tactics are being used.

I am always up for allowing people to choose on their own where they wish to live and not claiming them as regional property with barcodes to boot.

Have a Nice Day though, I hope your region is doing fine or will do fine. Nevertheless, we wish you the best. :hug:
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Latrovia
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Postby Latrovia » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:30 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Armaros wrote:Wot.

Hey now, they had a half-passable military for all of like three weeks! Mind you, Libcord basically had to train them from scratch because Enadia didn't do it themselves. That all came to nothing when Enadia was effectively blacklisted for problematic behavior from their leadership, and for generally deplorable content being present within their Discord server.


Yes it is true. We realize that it must have been "so difficult" for Libcord to have extra troops over and train them.

We are very thankful that they chose to train voluntarily without any interest whatsoever our entire army. We are sorry that we showed up at every update and we're extremely sorry that some of us, sacrificed our sleep, waking up at 4 and sometimes 3 o'clock in the morning to get ourselves ready for the updates and aid the cause of the Defenders. Additionally we apologize that we could raise numbers of troops equal and sometimes surpassing the numbers of TGW and the entire Libcord Alliance. But most importantly we are sorry that we sacrificed much of our breath for a cause ran by individuals of such low regards, whom requested our troops to renounce their affiliation with our region but continue serving Libcord's intersts.

No worries though, history has been a great teacher for us and we will get back up quite soon! :)
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Postby Zaolat » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:39 pm

Kuriko wrote:I thought Enadia knew better than to poach members of other regions, especially after the last shit you pulled.


That's not poaching, that's recruitment.

Poaching, would be targeting individuals specifically.
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:46 pm

Latrovia wrote:we're extremely sorry that some of us, sacrificed our sleep, waking up at 4 and sometimes 3 o'clock in the morning to get ourselves ready for the updates and aid the cause of the Defenders.

Why would you do that? Nobody should sacrifice sleep or anything else important in RL for updating. All the other issues completely aside.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:54 pm

Zaolat wrote:
Kuriko wrote:I thought Enadia knew better than to poach members of other regions, especially after the last shit you pulled.


That's not poaching, that's recruitment.

Poaching, would be targeting individuals specifically.

gp regions don't really poach do they? RP regions do it all the time though.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:58 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Zaolat wrote:
That's not poaching, that's recruitment.

Poaching, would be targeting individuals specifically.

gp regions don't really poach do they? RP regions do it all the time though.

Generally I think GP regions only really view recruiting from (re-)founded and ejected as valid, with the only exceptions generally being raiders/defenders doing it off each other (and similar IC reasons) and OOC blacklisted regions.

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Postby Latrovia » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:25 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Latrovia wrote:we're extremely sorry that some of us, sacrificed our sleep, waking up at 4 and sometimes 3 o'clock in the morning to get ourselves ready for the updates and aid the cause of the Defenders.

Why would you do that? Nobody should sacrifice sleep or anything else important in RL for updating. All the other issues completely aside.


Well you know, I am just gonna speak from my heart. Me and a lot of Enadians back then were idealists. We loved contributing and we loved helping around. We loved our work in ITDA and then AIR and finally Libcord. We loved helping other regions out. We never criticized or stuck our noses in other regions issues and business. Mostly because we believed in the power of a community. We believed that it is the fundamental right of each region to go through their sh*t on their own, without having the pressure of Internationals constantly overlooking them and making harsh or unnecessary comments or even attacking them publicly just to scrutinize and demonize their image.

So a lot of us, would simply make plans and round tables as to how we could make Enadia more user friendly and help out Libcord and the Defenders on their sacred duty of defending and liberating occupied regions.

So looking a lot back on how things developed from then - to now. The same people we trusted and respected, were also the same ones that turned their backs to us by the time that we said enough to their unorthodox methodologies that were slowly killing our community. They were the same people that when they pushed the sh*t to hit the fan in Enadia, then they acted so nice and they were so ready and willing to take our members over as "refugees". So the whole EU v NSGP thing which has been going on for a long time now, is laughable enough to me, to the extend of simply not taking seriously any of these guys any longer.

And in fact it is understandable why the whole diplomacy positioning is failing in NationStates. Regions needs to respect one another even when they have opposing views on fundamental things. Regions need to respect the laws and policies of one another. Regions need to find a middle ground and find a common language. When the whole conversation aligns towards one side and there is no space or room for alternatives or compromise, this is how you fail diplomatically. When you turn your gun on someone and you tell them "It's either our way or no way", my friend you have f*cked up majorly. At least this is my opinion.

Anyhow, Libcord lost a committed member region. AIR lost a committed ally. And many other regions lost the respect we had towards them and how we were looking up to them. So, is this making me sad? Maybe. But in the end, no matter what we try or how much we try to show our commitment in different matters, it will never be enough for the NSGP. And that take us to the final point. We will do what makes us happy and we will strive towards our goals, no matter how many people will go against us. Love over hate. :)
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Postby Zaolat » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:14 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:gp regions don't really poach do they? RP regions do it all the time though.

Generally I think GP regions only really view recruiting from (re-)founded and ejected as valid, with the only exceptions generally being raiders/defenders doing it off each other (and similar IC reasons) and OOC blacklisted regions.


Even in the past is was considered to be poaching to target people, it could be a lot mind you in one place, but it wasn't generically the whole place. In the case of UCR regions it would just have been illegal recruitment for throwing telegrams at X region(s), then legal later on.

Anyways, that's that, I don't want to threadjack further.
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Postby Armaros » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:47 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
Armaros wrote:Wot.

Hey now, they had a half-passable military for all of like three weeks! Mind you, Libcord basically had to train them from scratch because Enadia didn't do it themselves. That all came to nothing when Enadia was effectively blacklisted for problematic behavior from their leadership, and for generally deplorable content being present within their Discord server.

That former glory included bringing down AIR as far as Im aware. Their glorious forces of half a dozen noobs really had an impact. So much even that I heard of almost every single defender region but only found out this one existed after they brought AIR down. A legacy to be proud of.
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Postby Latrovia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:16 am

Armaros wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:Hey now, they had a half-passable military for all of like three weeks! Mind you, Libcord basically had to train them from scratch because Enadia didn't do it themselves. That all came to nothing when Enadia was effectively blacklisted for problematic behavior from their leadership, and for generally deplorable content being present within their Discord server.

That former glory included bringing down AIR as far as Im aware. Their glorious forces of half a dozen noobs really had an impact. So much even that I heard of almost every single defender region but only found out this one existed after they brought AIR down. A legacy to be proud of.


Sweet Burn but you got your facts wrong pal. :)
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:58 am

Latrovia wrote:We are sorry that we showed up at every update and we're extremely sorry that some of us, sacrificed our sleep, waking up at 4 and sometimes 3 o'clock in the morning to get ourselves ready for the updates and aid the cause of the Defenders.

M8 don't pull this. You literally recently ran a series of polls that voted Enadia to become raider, and you have been conducting frequent raids. I know this because my org, SAAF has literally countered and stopped every single one of them.

You can justify this on different grounds. Please don't try to say you are defenders.

I understand over DM you oppose this, but as your people run the region, and they chose to become raiders. Regardless of the fact, that is the truth.

I hope Enadia will shut down it's raiding program soon.
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Postby Armaros » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:47 am

Latrovia wrote:
Armaros wrote:That former glory included bringing down AIR as far as Im aware. Their glorious forces of half a dozen noobs really had an impact. So much even that I heard of almost every single defender region but only found out this one existed after they brought AIR down. A legacy to be proud of.


Sweet Burn but you got your facts wrong pal. :)

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Postby Latrovia » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:32 am

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
Latrovia wrote:We are sorry that we showed up at every update and we're extremely sorry that some of us, sacrificed our sleep, waking up at 4 and sometimes 3 o'clock in the morning to get ourselves ready for the updates and aid the cause of the Defenders.

M8 don't pull this. You literally recently ran a series of polls that voted Enadia to become raider, and you have been conducting frequent raids. I know this because my org, SAAF has literally countered and stopped every single one of them.

You can justify this on different grounds. Please don't try to say you are defenders.

I understand over DM you oppose this, but as your people run the region, and they chose to become raiders. Regardless of the fact, that is the truth.

I hope Enadia will shut down it's raiding program soon.

Mr. Prime Minister I have already elaborated on this matter with you, where I last informed you that I will bring your concerns over to the President, if I am not mistaken. Former President Green Africa has as already provided his recommendations to our former Minister of Defense.

As I have told you as well back then, the EU never claimed to be solely defenders or raiders. The Enadian Union is an independent region and we take no sides. As an independent region we operate on the basis of EU's interests and as such we will continue our work. As the current elected President of the EU|07 Administration I promise to you that the EUF will be raiding Nazi and Fascist regions and we will continue planning strategic strikes until the end of 2019 according to our Interior agenda.

For more details or information I will gladly share with you in Private! :)

Armaros wrote:
Latrovia wrote:
Sweet Burn but you got your facts wrong pal. :)

Enlighten me.


Taking in consideration the nature of your inflammatory responses that you have been providing thus far with zero constructive criticism or an argument where we can elaborate on, I can honestly say that I would normally not be wasting any time attempting to respond, but I believe that at least you deserve a form of basic respect, so I will grand you such. Since you brought up AIR and our work in AIR, I am not sure whether you are aware that the EU, the LCRUA and the FNR were the founding regions of the organization.

The EU was a major contributor both in AIR's forces and also has been providing major support in Libcord as well. In fact I can vaguely remember a Libcord officer saying in the Discord chat, that the Gray Wardens better play their cards right with the EUF and the Defenders would be unstoppable. I remember also another officer cheering us up by saying that we are able to collect more forces for even smaller updates. So in a quick summary, the number of EUF forces that used to be in Libcords Discord were about 30-40. So I would be concerned that you're not being updated that often.

Moving on, the EU was a major contributor in AIR as I mentioned above. Running multiple projects, assisting regions via the EU|AID program, or through the Global Citizen Project which we founded.

When the FNR collapsed the only two major contributors in AIR were the EU and the LCRUA.

Later on South Asians from the LCRUA reached out to us, inviting us to shut down AIR and create an Institution similar to TGW. Which proposal we rejected as it seemed a rushed move and it would be leaving us with zero resources. Once we rejected, South Asians started a huge propaganda in the LCRUA claiming that we asked them to merge with the EU, while the context of our conversation was quite different and had nothing to do with SA's claims.

Soon after the LCRUA left AIR and we were the only region left behind. That concludes the long story. I hope you are much more enlightened now. :)
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Postby The Tri State Area and Maine » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:58 pm

Glad to see that Enadia enjoys screwing over it's fellow UCRs for no good reason.

I hope those UCRs take the opportunity to respond in kind.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:14 pm

Latrovia wrote:
Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:M8 don't pull this. You literally recently ran a series of polls that voted Enadia to become raider, and you have been conducting frequent raids. I know this because my org, SAAF has literally countered and stopped every single one of them.

You can justify this on different grounds. Please don't try to say you are defenders.

I understand over DM you oppose this, but as your people run the region, and they chose to become raiders. Regardless of the fact, that is the truth.

I hope Enadia will shut down it's raiding program soon.

Mr. Prime Minister I have already elaborated on this matter with you, where I last informed you that I will bring your concerns over to the President, if I am not mistaken. Former President Green Africa has as already provided his recommendations to our former Minister of Defense.

As I have told you as well back then, the EU never claimed to be solely defenders or raiders. The Enadian Union is an independent region and we take no sides. As an independent region we operate on the basis of EU's interests and as such we will continue our work. As the current elected President of the EU|07 Administration I promise to you that the EUF will be raiding Nazi and Fascist regions and we will continue planning strategic strikes until the end of 2019 according to our Interior agenda.

For more details or information I will gladly share with you in Private! :)

Armaros wrote:Enlighten me.


Taking in consideration the nature of your inflammatory responses that you have been providing thus far with zero constructive criticism or an argument where we can elaborate on, I can honestly say that I would normally not be wasting any time attempting to respond, but I believe that at least you deserve a form of basic respect, so I will grand you such. Since you brought up AIR and our work in AIR, I am not sure whether you are aware that the EU, the LCRUA and the FNR were the founding regions of the organization.

The EU was a major contributor both in AIR's forces and also has been providing major support in Libcord as well. In fact I can vaguely remember a Libcord officer saying in the Discord chat, that the Gray Wardens better play their cards right with the EUF and the Defenders would be unstoppable. I remember also another officer cheering us up by saying that we are able to collect more forces for even smaller updates. So in a quick summary, the number of EUF forces that used to be in Libcords Discord were about 30-40. So I would be concerned that you're not being updated that often.

Moving on, the EU was a major contributor in AIR as I mentioned above. Running multiple projects, assisting regions via the EU|AID program, or through the Global Citizen Project which we founded.

When the FNR collapsed the only two major contributors in AIR were the EU and the LCRUA.

Later on South Asians from the LCRUA reached out to us, inviting us to shut down AIR and create an Institution similar to TGW. Which proposal we rejected as it seemed a rushed move and it would be leaving us with zero resources. Once we rejected, South Asians started a huge propaganda in the LCRUA claiming that we asked them to merge with the EU, while the context of our conversation was quite different and had nothing to do with SA's claims.

Soon after the LCRUA left AIR and we were the only region left behind. That concludes the long story. I hope you are much more enlightened now. :)

I disagree with Latrovia on many things, but on actual facts there is no disagreeing to be done. Enadia did not bring about the collapse of AIR, the fault for that lies squarely at the door of the LCRUA. I was one of the people attempting to make sense of the often confusing, and always confused, mixed signals coming out of the LCRUA during those few days: as an Enadian government minister at the time (I've held virtually every position, I don't know which I was, may have even been president, don't recall) I requested proof from the LCRUA that anybody in the Enadian administration had requested them, or even suggested to them, that they merge into Enadia; no proof was forthcoming.
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