The Enadian Herald

[Dr ac]

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As of this day 08/15/2019,

The Government of the Enadian Union,
empowered by the regional referendum which started on 08/05/2019 and lasted until the 08/15/2019,
officially recognizes the legitimacy of the Arnhelm Treaty Accords and becomes a signatory member-region.

Signed by
The President

Harry Rorschach

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I will record myself eating a hat if Enadia actually manages to go a year without causing an incident

You'd think they would of put "without violating the arnhelm treaty". They used "incident" instead to be vague it seems. I look forward to seeing that video they offered to make though.

[Tinhampton]

What the recruiter forgot to do correctly was add a plus sign + tag: wa before sending it out...

Can you speak for Pla Ger, or is this being posted (implicitly) on their request?

[United Republic Empire]

Also what do you mean you sent 104,000 tg's and you were only alerted to the fact something might be wrong by your fellow Arnhelm signatories? Using simple math, pacifics plus new 10000 is way less then 104,000.

Because the recruiter was inexperienced. They were trying to send it to only WA nations in the feeder and sinker GCRs but made the massive mistake of forgetting to put a plus sign in front of the tag:wa which caused it to go to all wa nations. ( Think like hitting "reply all" instead of "reply" in a mms ) meaning it got sent to everyone instead a specific few.

Measures are being taken to prevent this epic fiasco from happening again.

1) the recruiter will be placed on leave and sent back to training *and forever reminded of their epic @#$& up*
2) a telegram tag template to prevent human error of typing it in each time. Less risk of potential mistakes
3) Double checking from multiple people before they click the send button.

I wasn't able to catch their mistake due to being at work at the time. As soon as I got home and saw the mistake
facepalm - proceeds to yell profanities out loud.

[Boda]

Also what do you mean you sent 104,000 tg's and you were only alerted to the fact something might be wrong by your fellow Arnhelm signatories? Using simple math, pacifics plus new 10000 is way less then 104,000.

Because the recruiter was inexperienced. They were trying to send it to only WA nations in the feeder and sinker GCRs but made the massive mistake of forgetting to put a plus sign in front of the tag:wa which caused it to go to all wa nations. ( Think like hitting "reply all" instead of "reply" in a mms ) meaning it got sent to everyone instead a specific few.

Measures are being taken to prevent this epic fiasco from happening again.

1) the recruiter will be placed on leave and sent back to training *and forever reminded of their epic @#$& up*
2) a telegram tag template to prevent human error of typing it in each time. Less risk of potential mistakes
3) Double checking from multiple people before they click the send button.

I wasn't able to catch their mistake due to being at work at the time. As soon as I got home and saw the mistake
facepalm - proceeds to yell profanities out loud.

Why put recruiting in the hands of someone inexperienced!?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Also what do you mean you sent 104,000 tg's and you were only alerted to the fact something might be wrong by your fellow Arnhelm signatories? Using simple math, pacifics plus new 10000 is way less then 104,000.

Because the recruiter was inexperienced. They were trying to send it to only WA nations in the feeder and sinker GCRs but made the massive mistake of forgetting to put a plus sign in front of the tag:wa which caused it to go to all wa nations. ( Think like hitting "reply all" instead of "reply" in a mms ) meaning it got sent to everyone instead a specific few.

Measures are being taken to prevent this epic fiasco from happening again.

1) the recruiter will be placed on leave and sent back to training *and forever reminded of their epic @#$& up*
2) a telegram tag template to prevent human error of typing it in each time. Less risk of potential mistakes
3) Double checking from multiple people before they click the send button.

I wasn't able to catch their mistake due to being at work at the time. As soon as I got home and saw the mistake
facepalm - proceeds to yell profanities out loud.

You gave 100k stamps to an inexperienced recruiter? That's a puppet, don't insult our collective inteligences.

[Gorundu]

Also what do you mean you sent 104,000 tg's and you were only alerted to the fact something might be wrong by your fellow Arnhelm signatories? Using simple math, pacifics plus new 10000 is way less then 104,000.

Because the recruiter was inexperienced. They were trying to send it to only WA nations in the feeder and sinker GCRs but made the massive mistake of forgetting to put a plus sign in front of the tag:wa which caused it to go to all wa nations. ( Think like hitting "reply all" instead of "reply" in a mms ) meaning it got sent to everyone instead a specific few.

Measures are being taken to prevent this epic fiasco from happening again.

1) the recruiter will be placed on leave and sent back to training *and forever reminded of their epic @#$& up*
2) a telegram tag template to prevent human error of typing it in each time. Less risk of potential mistakes
3) Double checking from multiple people before they click the send button.

I wasn't able to catch their mistake due to being at work at the time. As soon as I got home and saw the mistake
facepalm - proceeds to yell profanities out loud.

You told your region members before the telegrams were sent out that you are about to send >100k telegrams. The Pacifics have less than 10k WA nations in total, and adding 10k new nations makes it nowhere close to 100k.

[Kuriko]

Because the recruiter was inexperienced. They were trying to send it to only WA nations in the feeder and sinker GCRs but made the massive mistake of forgetting to put a plus sign in front of the tag:wa which caused it to go to all wa nations. ( Think like hitting "reply all" instead of "reply" in a mms ) meaning it got sent to everyone instead a specific few.

Measures are being taken to prevent this epic fiasco from happening again.

1) the recruiter will be placed on leave and sent back to training *and forever reminded of their epic @#$& up*
2) a telegram tag template to prevent human error of typing it in each time. Less risk of potential mistakes
3) Double checking from multiple people before they click the send button.

I wasn't able to catch their mistake due to being at work at the time. As soon as I got home and saw the mistake
facepalm - proceeds to yell profanities out loud.

You told your region members before the telegrams were sent out that you are about to send >100k telegrams. The Pacifics have less than 10k WA nations in total, and adding 10k new nations makes it nowhere close to 100k.

Whereas the total populations of all the feeders, plus the 10,000 new nations, plus all WA members, equals 117,007 nations. Their numbers seem correct if they said they were going to send out over 100,000 stamps, just not for what they're claiming. There's a big difference from less than 20,000 nations (feeder WA count and new nations 10,000) to 117,007 nations (feeder nation combined total, plus new nations and all WA nations).

[United Republic Empire]

You told your region members before the telegrams were sent out that you are about to send >100k telegrams. The Pacifics have less than 10k WA nations in total, and adding 10k new nations makes it nowhere close to 100k.

Whereas the total populations of all the feeders, plus the 10,000 new nations, plus all WA members, equals 117,007 nations. Their numbers seem correct if they said they were going to send out over 100,000 stamps, just not for what they're claiming. There's a big difference from less than 20,000 nations (feeder WA count and new nations 10,000) to 117,007 nations (feeder nation combined total, plus new nations and all WA nations).

Yeah when they set it up, the neebie typed out the tags for the telegram. They were thinking it looked correct and announced it was going to be 100k then they hit send. If I had been online instead of working irl, I would have doubled checked their work and would of told them not to send before it got checked. To them not knowing about the + sign, 100,000 looked right when in actuality it wasn't. I'm going to request that before any recruitment is sent out that 48hrs of prior checks and work be done before clicking send. This should not of happened and rest assured that it will not happen again. I get that new people make mistakes but they should at least ask someone more experienced to double check before firing off the send button.

Its frustrating that we've been putting in a lot of work to make sure the standards of the Arnhelm Treaty are met and all it took was for one trainee to get ahead of themselves to set it back to square one.

[Aynia Moreaux]

Whereas the total populations of all the feeders, plus the 10,000 new nations, plus all WA members, equals 117,007 nations. Their numbers seem correct if they said they were going to send out over 100,000 stamps, just not for what they're claiming. There's a big difference from less than 20,000 nations (feeder WA count and new nations 10,000) to 117,007 nations (feeder nation combined total, plus new nations and all WA nations).

All I can think is that's like a hundred and seventeen bucks someone tossed out in one go. Ouch

[Syberis]

Whereas the total populations of all the feeders, plus the 10,000 new nations, plus all WA members, equals 117,007 nations. Their numbers seem correct if they said they were going to send out over 100,000 stamps, just not for what they're claiming. There's a big difference from less than 20,000 nations (feeder WA count and new nations 10,000) to 117,007 nations (feeder nation combined total, plus new nations and all WA nations).

All I can think is that's like a hundred and seventeen bucks someone tossed out in one go. Ouch

Specifically that they allegedly gave a new person access to a hundred and seventeen bucks and didn't lay an order down to wait for a specific okay and a proofread to make sure everything was typed out properly.

Except that according to Latrovia they did check it and it looked good to them.

We had tested the recruitment filters out and asked several sources whether UCR World Assembly nations would be affected and we were told that the only GCR regions seemed to be affected. Clearly, we were all wrong.

Which contradicts URE when they said

Yeah when they set it up, the neebie typed out the tags for the telegram. They were thinking it looked correct and announced it was going to be 100k then they hit send. If I had been online instead of working irl, I would have doubled checked their work and would of told them not to send before it got checked.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

All I can think is that's like a hundred and seventeen bucks someone tossed out in one go. Ouch

Specifically that they allegedly gave a new person access to a hundred and seventeen bucks and didn't lay an order down to wait for a specific okay and a proofread to make sure everything was typed out properly.

Except that according to Latrovia they did check it and it looked good to them.

We had tested the recruitment filters out and asked several sources whether UCR World Assembly nations would be affected and we were told that the only GCR regions seemed to be affected. Clearly, we were all wrong.

Which contradicts URE when they said

Yeah when they set it up, the neebie typed out the tags for the telegram. They were thinking it looked correct and announced it was going to be 100k then they hit send. If I had been online instead of working irl, I would have doubled checked their work and would of told them not to send before it got checked.

Well when I responded to the 'new' person asking who wrote the recruitment tg, they said 'I edited it.' I can't imagine they'd let a new person write the recruitment tg, and the responses lead me to believe I was actually talking to Harry.

[Domais]

Honestly, this is Enadia we're talking about, does anyone here remember when they changed their abbreviation to EU for some reason and at around the same time they asked for peoples real names when signing up on their forums? This is like one of the least controversial things they have done, and to be honest I was never going to join the "EU" before and now I'm still not going to join not going to join the "EU".

[United Republic Empire]

All I can think is that's like a hundred and seventeen bucks someone tossed out in one go. Ouch

Specifically that they allegedly gave a new person access to a hundred and seventeen bucks and didn't lay an order down to wait for a specific okay and a proofread to make sure everything was typed out properly.

Except they paid for it themselves just like when I was new I paid for my own telegrams and GVH was new to the region he paid for his own telegrams.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Specifically that they allegedly gave a new person access to a hundred and seventeen bucks and didn't lay an order down to wait for a specific okay and a proofread to make sure everything was typed out properly.

Except they paid for it themselves just like when I was new I paid for my own telegrams and GVH was new to the region he paid for his own telegrams.

I was a recruiter with 2 or 3 years of experience who grew a region from 60 to 300 members in just over a month. I bought the tg stamps because I was asked to by the region, I wouldn't have done if I'd literally just joined with no experience.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Just a thought, but if you're sending a telegram to every nation in the GCR's anyway, why do you need to send a telegram to WA nations in the GCR's as well? Wouldn't that just be wasting telegrams? Like, why have that WA tag in there at all? Seems like it's just asking for a screw up.

It looks like what they were trying to do was combine tags - i.e. I could do tag:wa+region:the_black_hawks, and TG only WA nations only in The Black Hawks. It's *plausible* that they were attempting something along the lines of tg'ing all WA's or new WA's or something, only in feeders.

There should have been red flags, as others have noted, like the number of stamps being consumed being more than expected, so there's still carelessness...but also TG tags can be hard sometimes, so it's not a totally unreasonable base to start a claim from. I've seen worse excuses, at least

Also, you can't waste TG's, more or less. Since non-delivered gets a refund.

[United Republic Empire]

Except they paid for it themselves just like when I was new I paid for my own telegrams and GVH was new to the region he paid for his own telegrams.

I was a recruiter with 2 or 3 years of experience who grew a region from 60 to 300 members in just over a month. I bought the tg stamps because I was asked to by the region, I wouldn't have done if I'd literally just joined with no experience.

I'm still a bit wow'd that the newbie just dropped $100 like it was nothing. If only I could of been online instead of working, I could of told them no that $100 sounds like way too much and that something is wrong for what they were wanting to send out.

[God-King Rorschach]

Just a thought, but if you're sending a telegram to every nation in the GCR's anyway, why do you need to send a telegram to WA nations in the GCR's as well? Wouldn't that just be wasting telegrams? Like, why have that WA tag in there at all? Seems like it's just asking for a screw up.

It looks like what they were trying to do was combine tags - i.e. I could do tag:wa+region:the_black_hawks, and TG only WA nations only in The Black Hawks. It's *plausible* that they were attempting something along the lines of tg'ing all WA's or new WA's or something, only in feeders.

There should have been red flags, like the number of stamps being consumed being more than expected, so there's still carelessness...but also TG tags can be hard sometimes, so it's not a totally unreasonable base to start a claim from.

To be honest, as I mentioned through our diplomacy channels, when we combined tag:wa and the Pacifics we noticed that the number of WA nations was 24k or something similar to that, when we removed the Pacifics from the filters and we kept the only tag being, tag:wa the number went up to 31k. nations. This was a quite big recruitment drive which we even asked the NS mods if it was allowed to begin with in the first place.

Sadly, we realized that our filters backfired on us as it became obvious. We can only apologize for this mistake, and we are, of course, understanding regarding any retaliatory actions as a result of this accidental mistake.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I was a recruiter with 2 or 3 years of experience who grew a region from 60 to 300 members in just over a month. I bought the tg stamps because I was asked to by the region, I wouldn't have done if I'd literally just joined with no experience.

I'm still a bit wow'd that the newbie just dropped $100 like it was nothing. If only I could of been online instead of working, I could of told them no that $100 sounds like way too much and that something is wrong for what they were wanting to send out.

The new guy wasn't a new guy, unless you've started giving new people the ability to view recruitment tgs and to make the edits they want. When I tged hijm asking who wrote his recruitment tg, he told me he edited it.

[God-King Rorschach]

I'm still a bit wow'd that the newbie just dropped $100 like it was nothing. If only I could of been online instead of working, I could of told them no that $100 sounds like way too much and that something is wrong for what they were wanting to send out.

The new guy wasn't a new guy, unless you've started giving new people the ability to view recruitment tgs and to make the edits they want. When I tged hijm asking who wrote his recruitment tg, he told me he edited it.

I am not gonna go into details but there's a whole technical department who work constantly on the background.

[United Republic Empire]

I'm still a bit wow'd that the newbie just dropped $100 like it was nothing. If only I could of been online instead of working, I could of told them no that $100 sounds like way too much and that something is wrong for what they were wanting to send out.

The new guy wasn't a new guy, unless you've started giving new people the ability to view recruitment tgs and to make the edits they want. When I tged hijm asking who wrote his recruitment tg, he told me he edited it.

that would be correct, we gave a few telegram templates to them and told them to make it more original if possible, make it more creative. Copy and past the text into a document for them to edit on their own time.

[Syberis]

Specifically that they allegedly gave a new person access to a hundred and seventeen bucks and didn't lay an order down to wait for a specific okay and a proofread to make sure everything was typed out properly.

Except they paid for it themselves just like when I was new I paid for my own telegrams and GVH was new to the region he paid for his own telegrams.

So you had a random newbie... Drop $117, and he didn't think anything of it, and nobody thought to slow the dude's roll and pre-empt him accidentally sepending $117?

Jesus Christ. That doesn't sound predatory or anything.

[Yokiria]

Except they paid for it themselves just like when I was new I paid for my own telegrams and GVH was new to the region he paid for his own telegrams.

So you had a random newbie... Drop $117, and he didn't think anything of it, and nobody thought to slow the dude's roll and pre-empt him accidentally sepending $117?

Jesus Christ. That doesn't sound predatory or anything.

EU should change its name to EA.

[Warzone Codger]

Except they paid for it themselves just like when I was new I paid for my own telegrams and GVH was new to the region he paid for his own telegrams.

So you had a random newbie... Drop $117, and he didn't think anything of it, and nobody thought to slow the dude's roll and pre-empt him accidentally sepending $117?

Jesus Christ. That doesn't sound predatory or anything.

Yikes. I'm more concerned about that than the actual mass TGs. People should know what they are doing before committing to something like that.

[Domais]

Yikes. I'm more concerned about that than the actual mass TGs. People should know what they are doing before committing to something like that.

If I recall correctly, Enadia had issues before this, i.e. making people sign up with their real name on their forums, and from reading the tread it seems like someone gave a new person 117 bucks for TGs which in itself is hilarious, trusting a new person with 117 bucks , and the mere fact that it was 117 bucks makes me not believe that the player was a new person. So, the moral of this story is don't trust Enadia.

[Syberis]

Yikes. I'm more concerned about that than the actual mass TGs. People should know what they are doing before committing to something like that.

If I recall correctly, Enadia had issues before this, i.e. making people sign up with their real name on their forums, and from reading the tread it seems like someone gave a new person 117 bucks for TGs which in itself is hilarious, trusting a new person with 117 bucks , and the mere fact that it was 117 bucks makes me not believe that the player was a new person. So, the moral of this story is don't trust Enadia.

Alas, I wish that it was the case they gave the individual $117 USD worth of Stamps. URE, however, clarified to quickly dash my hopes in a single post.

Specifically that they allegedly gave a new person access to a hundred and seventeen bucks and didn't lay an order down to wait for a specific okay and a proofread to make sure everything was typed out properly.

Except they paid for it themselves just like when I was new I paid for my own telegrams and GVH was new to the region he paid for his own telegrams.

That's fucked, mate.