Feederites & Userites

[Solorni]

Is it weird that I consider myself a Balderite (well, we're actually called Balderans but it didn't work as well in this context ) and consider myself loyal first and foremost to my region of Balder? I treat threats or subversion from any region or organization whether they are a user created one or game created as equally bad to my home. The same goes for users.

I keep seeing people putting quotes in their signatures such as “Proud Feederite from the South Pacific”, almost as if they need to convince themselves and others of their own status and loyalties. I guess for me it's like saying I'm more loyal to my country than my region. So like I consider myself and feel more strongly aligned with Britain than Europe or more Canada than North America. But is that weird in this day and age? Do you guys consider yourselves more aligned with your region? Or am I just all alone...

[Lord Dominator]

I imagine myself to be pretty aligned with the various regions I'm in, to the extent I can be

[Fauxia]

It's perfectly fine to be loyal to your one region, but the likelihood a GCR is couped by a userite is far more likely than by a feederite, which is why it is the userites that must be closely watched

[Solorni]

It's perfectly fine to be loyal to your one region, but the likelihood a GCR is couped by a userite is far more likely than by a feederite, which is why it is the userites that must be closely watched

I'm sure we'd all love to see how you came by this statistic. Since I'm sure you've compiled a list of all the coups of GCRs, perhaps from a certain point and figured out which ones were userite or feederite that you should show us. I'd be very fascinated by the work you've done to get to this result. It's borderline criminal to hide it from the world!

[Lenlyvit]

It's perfectly fine to be loyal to your one region, but the likelihood a GCR is couped by a userite is far more likely than by a feederite, which is why it is the userites that must be closely watched

I'm sure we'd all love to see how you came by this statistic. Since I'm sure you've compiled a list of all the coups of GCRs, perhaps from a certain point and figured out which ones were userite or feederite that you should show us. I'd be very fascinated by the work you've done to get to this result. It's borderline criminal to hide it from the world!

Hey Solorni? Can I have my lucky number back????
But to your original post. I feel like I don't really fit in with any region, but I also feel a loyalty to all regions (except fascist and Nazis regions). I know I should have one region where my loyalty must be, but I think I'm just drifting. I know that's probably horrible, and GCRites may think its hypocritical, but I hope to find that region again some day. Also, don't be alone

[Die PreuBen Republik]

I feel like, at least on my main account, that I'm more aligned towards my country and the forums instead of my region. I really just joined the 10000 Islands on it because I support what they're doing and I want to make a difference; on this, I just joined Europe because my country's... in Europe (the continent).

[Malphe]

Don't like it when people have an unwavering loyalty to any given thing tbh. Means they are often willing to compromise their loyalty to just about anything else in the name of x person/region/org.

[Todd McCloud]

I often find that those who have done the most in this game have the least they need to say.

[Solorni]

I often find that those who have done the most in this game have the least they need to say.

What about the orators?

[The Stalker]

Well I think all ideologies dislike outsiders subverting their region(s). To me the Feederite/Userite is more the notion that the only way to be truly loyal to a GCR is if it's your only region, having no outside loyalties to influence you.

Thinking about it, can't say I recall many instants where a UCR took over a GCR other than the LWU in Lazarus now, and that brief DEN coup. Though I imagine a number of coups were done by people who were involved in the GCR and UCRs. In almost all coups outside Userite militaries do get involved. I'd be curious to see a proper study done.

I also think the whole Feederite/Userite philosophy isn't very encompassing of the larger NS. Doesn't really take into account founderless regions who also have to deal with Userite interference, or folks who are involved in UCR with no interest in the GCR. I've never really been involved as a citizens in any of the GCRs, mostly because I am already involved in a number of UCRs and founderless regions and kinda agree with the notion that it's hard to be fully devoted to a GCR while also be founder of / leading a number of UCRs/founderless regions.

[Todd McCloud]

I often find that those who have done the most in this game have the least they need to say.

What about the orators?

Well they can say stuff, but they don't have to. Unless they do. Then they usually say something, but it's typically short and with less posts and stuff I guess. I dunno, this is just observations. I'm still a newb in this game, at least I feel like that sometimes.

[Solorni]

What about the orators?

Well they can say stuff, but they don't have to. Unless they do. Then they usually say something, but it's typically short and with less posts and stuff I guess. I dunno, this is just observations. I'm still a newb in this game, at least I feel like that sometimes.

I feel the same way, honestly. It's like always something new to learn.

[Lord Dominator]

Well they can say stuff, but they don't have to. Unless they do. Then they usually say something, but it's typically short and with less posts and stuff I guess. I dunno, this is just observations. I'm still a newb in this game, at least I feel like that sometimes.

I feel the same way, honestly. It's like always something new to learn.

At least you were around for half of it. I'm barely keeping up with what's happening right now

[Solorni]

I feel the same way, honestly. It's like always something new to learn.

At least you were around for half of it. I'm barely keeping up with what's happening right now

But there is always someone older than you and to be fair, the 2007 age is deceiving. I only had this nation for a very brief amount of time and only really started in 2009. It took me until 2011 to get into the GCRs. So I missed a lot of the big stuff that happened.

[Roavin]

There's nothing wrong with considering yourself a Balderite/Balderan. There's also nothing wrong with considering yourself a sinkerite (as you have done before). They aren't mutually exclusive. Considering yourself a feederite/sinkerite also doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't worry about other feeders/sinkers messing with your stuff (how boring would GP be if that wasn't the case?).

As I said elsewhere:

Yes, it's propaganda. No, it's not all sophistry.

[Todd McCloud]

At least you were around for half of it. I'm barely keeping up with what's happening right now

But there is always someone older than you and to be fair, the 2007 age is deceiving. I only had this nation for a very brief amount of time and only really started in 2009. It took me until 2011 to get into the GCRs. So I missed a lot of the big stuff that happened.

Don't let that get to you. I started the game in 2005, but it took me to 2008 to get into the GCR's. It just didn't interest me until I knew what they meant. Here, lemme post something I posted in TEP's discord:

"For anyone who wants to be a GCR delegate, I've got one piece of advice to you. It's one rule, a rule I didn't follow all of the time, but had I done so, I would've lessened my mistakes. In all that you do, whether it be posting policies or talking to people in chat rooms, imagine all that you say, you're saying in front of the 8000+ people in the region. All of them. And that's what a delegate is. They lose their self and they become the region. They may have a strong independence streak, they may have a known personality as I once did. But to become a delegate of a large region is to lose that and essentially become an average person in your region. To become a delegate is to become an entity. You serve your region because you care about everyone in the region, from the plucky newbie to the hardened ten year vet.

That's not because I determined that, but because it is that. GCR delegates lose themselves to serve the role well. You must always represent every nation in your region to the best of your ability. The moment that stops is the moment conflict / drama starts."

I really do believe the best GCR delegates lose their own identities. And that's good! Because in losing their own identities, they forge or add to the identity of a region. And we've seen this in stable regions and unstable regions. To see a region with which you once delegated excel with intelligent, crafty people is the most relaxing thing in this game. And it's very difficult to let go. But you can let go a little bit more when you see them acting more smart than you ever have. Because in doing so, they complete the region and, in part, complete you.

[Lord Dominator]

Feeling a bit philosophical are we?
The only thing I might personally disagree with would be that not all delegates end up like that. Personally I'm thinking of TNP here, and how the community there seems to far more represent the region than whoever the delegate is at the time.

[Solorni]

There's nothing wrong with considering yourself a Balderite/Balderan. There's also nothing wrong with considering yourself a sinkerite (as you have done before). They aren't mutually exclusive. Considering yourself a feederite/sinkerite also doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't worry about other feeders/sinkers messing with your stuff (how boring would GP be if that wasn't the case?).

As I said elsewhere:

Yes, it's propaganda. No, it's not all sophistry.

2013 wants their posts back

Also, I'd like to point out that I have the most random analogies ever.

"It reeks of desperation to me, rather than the end of a boar hunt."

No idea why I was thinking of boar hunting. Game of thrones maybe?

[Todd McCloud]

Feeling a bit philosophical are we?
The only thing I might personally disagree with would be that not all delegates end up like that. Personally I'm thinking of TNP here, and how the community there seems to far more represent the region than whoever the delegate is at the time.

I really do believe delegates, all of them, shape a region, especially if they were around a lot. Obviously the more exposure one has, the more impact they will have on the region.

[Lenlyvit]

Feeling a bit philosophical are we?
The only thing I might personally disagree with would be that not all delegates end up like that. Personally I'm thinking of TNP here, and how the community there seems to far more represent the region than whoever the delegate is at the time.

Hey I'm a writer of a book that's comin' out this year! Max, respond to my queries!

That being said, I really do believe delegates, all of them, shape a region, especially if they were around a lot. Obviously the more exposure one has, the more impact they will have on the region.

you wrote a book and its being published?? Which genre??

[Solorni]

Feeling a bit philosophical are we?
The only thing I might personally disagree with would be that not all delegates end up like that. Personally I'm thinking of TNP here, and how the community there seems to far more represent the region than whoever the delegate is at the time.

Hey I'm a writer of a book that's comin' out this year! Max, respond to my queries!

That being said, I really do believe delegates, all of them, shape a region, especially if they were around a lot. Obviously the more exposure one has, the more impact they will have on the region.

Are you going to make an online game to publicize the book?

[Feux]

Hail Pacifica is the only answer I can give the thread.

[Todd McCloud]

Hey I'm a writer of a book that's comin' out this year! Max, respond to my queries!

That being said, I really do believe delegates, all of them, shape a region, especially if they were around a lot. Obviously the more exposure one has, the more impact they will have on the region.

Are you going to make an online game to publicize the book?

Oh Lord I'm not a masochist.

And to answer other questions, when it is available, you'll know. I'll post in arts & fiction.

[Pergamon]

Hail Pacifica is the only answer I can give the thread.

Hail Pacifica indeed.

[The Church of Satan]

My loyalty is non-negotiable just like my own personal values. Although my loyalty to TRR is absolute that does not mean I would stand by and do nothing if the government turned on the region. My loyalty is always to the region. My loyalty to any government is always conditional. Whether I'm a feederite or a userite is irrelevant. I don't care much for the ideological labels people use in NS. They might be good for rallying the troops and the ignorant nobodies when a tyrant or a hero wants to force their ideas on a region for their own selfish, greedy reasons but that is the only purpose they serve. I don't waste my time with such things because I prefer to think for myself.

Probably not the answer you were expecting Rach but that is my answer.