AIR - Alliance of Interdependent Regions

[South Asians]

Then tell me how can i get rid of this?

If you do something dumb, people aren't going to turn the other cheek, you can't just get rid of it, that isn't how it works. Best you can do is be better than you previously were in spite of it.

Copy that

[Fortvento]

See, the difference is that someone saying they hate god isn't explicitly exclusionary and demeaning towards actual people playing this game
Being effectively called an abomination for your sexual orientation *is*

While the former may still offend some people, it doesn't specifically target a group of people for who they are.
But hey, I'm not sure why I expected better.

Sexual orientation and religion both define people, although it matters from person to person which they are defined more by. Calling people out for their sexual orientation or for their religion is on the same level of severity.

It's unacceptable to threaten people based on how they define themselves, but it is otherwise acceptable to have an opinion on it. If a nation in CoIS is of the opinion that homosexuality is bad, they have the right to that opinion regardless of the fact that I strongly disagree with it. Likewise, if I held the hypothetical opinion that Islam is bad, I have the right to that opinion regardless of the fact that they will strongly disagree with it. What isn't acceptable is if we'd threaten each other based on such opinions, which is where I draw the line.

[Latrovia]

ANNOUNCEMENT

The AIR organization and it's Member Region, would like to notify the Inter regional Community upon our decision to remove the Council of Islamic States from our Charter.

Whilst we believe in the sovereignty and personal freedom of an individual to govern thyself and their region as they seem fit. We find ourselves unable to look aside when one of our signatories spread hate speech and conflicting views.

We, the AIR Member Regions would like to extend our sincere apologies towards the offended parties and re assure them, that our organization will be taking the appropriate steps in resolving internal and foreign crisis.

Thank you for your attention!

[Malphe]

Good.

[Blood Wine]

Well it's something I suppose

[Miravana]

ANNOUNCEMENT

The AIR organization and it's member regions, would like to notify the world upon our decision to grant admittance of Aukum into our charter. After review by our delegates, we have determined that Aukum will make a great addition to our alliance due to common goals and a belief that they will be committed to the betterment of our alliance. From all of us here at AIR, we welcome Aukum sincerely, and hope to foster a better connection between us!

AIR: "United We Stand, Divided We Fall"

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Well it's something I suppose

Is their anything else you would like us to do about this situation? I believe we have reached the limits of what it is in our power to achieve here.

[Lenlyvit]

So AIR is admitting raider regions to its ranks now? Straight from the Constitution of Aukum:

Section II: President

The President shall be considered the Head of Government, and thus the highest representative for the region.

The President shall be elected every month.

For a President to hold office they must have held citizenship consistently for at least one month.

The President shall be responsible for the appointment of all members of the cabinet, including the Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Secretary of Domestic Affairs, Secretary of Defense, and Secretary of Roleplay.

The President shall be responsible for the appointment of all Justices within the Supreme Court.

The President has the power to:

Bestow honourary citizenship,

Overrule any decisions made by the Cabinet,

Take over the job of any of the Secretaries at any time,

Propose a legal case to the Court,

Appoint Court justices,

Veto legislation,

Ban members who are deemed an immediate threat to the region,

Excuse convicted criminals,

Order military raids,

and ban criminals that are deemed an immediate threat without Trial.

The President shall have the power to appoint a Vice President, but will not be required to.

In case of the vacancy of the Office of President— either by impeachment or abdication— the Vice President will take the up the Office of President.

The President shall be expected to appoint Secretaries to head each of the four Departments.

The President may not be allowed to hold any position other than President.

Section VI: Department of Defense

The Secretary of Defense will head the Department of Defense.

The Secretary of Defense will have the power to appoint citizens to the Department of Defense.

The Department of Defense will be tasked with the job of handling all Defense affairs, this including:

Executing raiding orders from the President,

Maintaining a military,

Maintaining a proper command structure,

and defending the region against raids.

The Secretary of Defense will have no regional officer authority.

The Secretary of Defense will appoint citizens to specific jobs within the Department to handle and execute these jobs effectively.

I thought AIR was a defender alliance, only admitting defenders and independents. The wording of the Aukum constitution pretty clearly shows they're raider. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

Edit: Although I do see an independent tag on their region, so then my question turns into whether or not they lean raider or defender.

[Miravana]

It was made clear to them we are a defensive organization, and they were content on joining. Such points were noticed by us, but with the lack of actual raiding operations, it was considered that they were not raiders

[Blood Wine]

Well it's something I suppose

Is their anything else you would like us to do about this situation? I believe we have reached the limits of what it is in our power to achieve here.

It's just simply disappointing it took this long, and severe international pressure to accomplish , not even mentioning they were admitted in the first place

[Lenlyvit]

It was made clear to them we are a defensive organization, and they were content on joining. Such points were noticed by us, but with the lack of actual raiding operations, it was considered that they were not raiders

See? I stand corrected. Thank you Mira for clearing it up

[Miravana]

It was made clear to them we are a defensive organization, and they were content on joining. Such points were noticed by us, but with the lack of actual raiding operations, it was considered that they were not raiders

See? I stand corrected. Thank you Mira for clearing it up

My Pleasure

It's just simply disappointing it took this long, and severe international pressure to accomplish , not even mentioning they were admitted in the first place

You can blame democracy for that. It was not going to have a different outcome anyways. As far as their original admittance, we were not made aware of their nature until much later, and it was indeed a lack on our part of noticing, for which we apologize.

[Blood Wine]

You can blame democracy for that. It was not going to have a different outcome anyways. As far as their original admittance, we were not made aware of their nature until much later, and it was indeed a lack on our part of noticing, for which we apologize.

No I generally blame the leadership who have shown a blatant disregard for the situation, you're the only person who actually gave a fuck about it

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Is their anything else you would like us to do about this situation? I believe we have reached the limits of what it is in our power to achieve here.

It's just simply disappointing it took this long, and severe international pressure to accomplish , not even mentioning they were admitted in the first place

We believed that it was fair that we investigated the accusations seriously. AIR believes in due process, and it was important to ensure that this was not a one-off incident, and that some of the other alegations against CoIS were true. We do, of course, extend our heartfelt apollogies to anybody who was offended by the statements from the coalition of Islamic states, and wish to reassure them that AIR no longer considers this region as a member or ally of our organisation.

I will shortly be making a statement on behalf of the Enadian union in order to clarify our (very similar) reaction to this incident.

[Blood Wine]

It's just simply disappointing it took this long, and severe international pressure to accomplish , not even mentioning they were admitted in the first place

We believed that it was fair that we investigated the accusations seriously. AIR believes in due process, and it was important to ensure that this was not a one-off incident, and that some of the other alegations against CoIS were true. We do, of course, extend our heartfelt apollogies to anybody who was offended by the statements from the coalition of Islamic states, and wish to reassure them that AIR no longer considers this region as a member or ally of our organisation.

I will shortly be making a statement on behalf of the Enadian union in order to clarify our (very similar) reaction to this incident.

What investigation is there when multiple people linked directly towards publicly available RMB posts?

[South Asians]

What investigation is there when multiple people linked directly towards publicly available RMB posts?

There is a thing which i call democracy. I don't know what you call it.

[Overthinkers]

What investigation is there when multiple people linked directly towards publicly available RMB posts?

There is a thing which i call democracy. I don't know what you call it.

There are circumstances where some immediate and tangible action are required. Especially if the evidence is as prominent and public as Blood Wine indicates, then I'd say those circumstances qualify. And with AIR's history, and the history of its previous iterations, we aren't exactly inclined to assume anything would happen unless we see something more than "we're investigating it."

And democracy has nothing to do with it.

[Latman]

There is a thing which i call democracy. I don't know what you call it.

There are circumstances where some immediate and tangible action are required. Especially if the evidence is as prominent and public as Blood Wine indicates, then I'd say those circumstances qualify. And with AIR's history, and the history of its previous iterations, we aren't exactly inclined to assume anything would happen unless we see something more than "we're investigating it."

And democracy has nothing to do with it.

While I agree with you to an extend and give you merit for what you said. You got to agree that a fragment of a book can not spoil you the entire story. AIR prides itself for not intervening or infringing the sovereignty of its Member Regions. The second thing would be the evaluation of the human error. We had no idea idea why would COIS Founder make such a remark. The third thing would be understanding the foundamental ideological gap that define us. So, while I understand the Interregional pressure and the GP mania in jumping up to arms at every possible situation. It is our duty to examine, test and review all possible scenarios in our different presented cases.

We have a saying in my country "God takes his time, but he never forgets". In our situation "Justice was served, late... Yes... But served!" Thank you for the wasted time into reading my piece of text.

[Blood Wine]

What investigation is there when multiple people linked directly towards publicly available RMB posts?

There is a thing which i call democracy. I don't know what you call it.

I don't know what kind of bloated democracy you run, but the Gay administration would have such a embassy closed within 2 hours with a RC majority given the evidence available

There is a thing which i call democracy. I don't know what you call it.

There are circumstances where some immediate and tangible action are required. Especially if the evidence is as prominent and public as Blood Wine indicates, then I'd say those circumstances qualify. And with AIR's history, and the history of its previous iterations, we aren't exactly inclined to assume anything would happen unless we see something more than "we're investigating it."

And democracy has nothing to do with it.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30522430
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30521356

^these links were submitted in AIRs public discord, and in private to south asians and Miravana


edit: Just noticed that they were actually edited in an attempt to hide the truth, sadly for them, this exists:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30524914
edit 2:
just in case they try censorship via GHR:
https://archive.is/A11Vg

[Latman]

There is a thing which i call democracy. I don't know what you call it.

I don't know what kind of bloated democracy you run, but the Gay administration would have such a embassy closed within 2 hours with a RC majority given the evidence available

There are circumstances where some immediate and tangible action are required. Especially if the evidence is as prominent and public as Blood Wine indicates, then I'd say those circumstances qualify. And with AIR's history, and the history of its previous iterations, we aren't exactly inclined to assume anything would happen unless we see something more than "we're investigating it."

And democracy has nothing to do with it.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30522430
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30521356

^these links were submitted in AIRs public discord, and in private to south asians and Miravana


edit: Just noticed that they were actually edited in an attempt to hide the truth, sadly for them, this exists:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30524914

Sadly for everyone then, we're not Gay. And neither we are owned by the GP community. So the principles of investigation, planning and decision making runs throught all of our partners!

[Overthinkers]

I don't know what kind of bloated democracy you run, but the Gay administration would have such a embassy closed within 2 hours with a RC majority given the evidence available



https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30522430
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30521356

^these links were submitted in AIRs public discord, and in private to south asians and Miravana


edit: Just noticed that they were actually edited in an attempt to hide the truth, sadly for them, this exists:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=30524914

Sadly for everyone then, we're not Gay. And neither we are owned by the GP community. So the principles of investigation, planning and decision making runs throught all of our partners!

So you maintain an embassy thread in GP and work with gameplay-oriented organizations, but because we don't "own" you we're not allowed to hold you accountable?

[Latman]

Sadly for everyone then, we're not Gay. And neither we are owned by the GP community. So the principles of investigation, planning and decision making runs throught all of our partners!

So you maintain an embassy thread in GP and work with gameplay-oriented organizations, but because we don't "own" you we're not allowed to hold you accountable?

With all respect, but I do believe that your point is technically, irrelevant.

[Big Bad Badger]

With all respect, but I do believe that your point is technically, irrelevant.

Says someone from a region that derived relevancy in GP because of their combined atrocious behavior and inability to police said atrocious behavior. I'm guessing that this region's 15 minutes is just about over...

[Malphe]

I'm guessing that this region's 15 minutes is just about over...

So are we legally allowed to leave?

[Latman]

With all respect, but I do believe that your point is technically, irrelevant.

Says someone from a region that derived relevancy in GP because of their combined atrocious behavior and inability to police said atrocious behavior. I'm guessing that this region's 15 minutes is just about over...

I've seen better arguments to begin with. To continue with, thats irrelevant as well to the topic of this discusion. But to answer, to your statement since you couldn't contain yourself, we are working closely with our partners and we're making progress every day. These positive interactions that rarely anyone can see nowdays happening in the GP are reflecting in our community as well.