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Postby Feux » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:23 pm

Fratt wrote:It won't happen. It cannot be done. It'd be pointless.

Fratt is obviously doing it as we speak.
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Postby Soloviev » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:41 pm

Feux wrote:
Fratt wrote:It won't happen. It cannot be done. It'd be pointless.

Fratt is obviously doing it as we speak.
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Postby Roavin » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:11 pm

It's actually theoretically possible even without founder access. It requires about 21 years and some change, plus infiltrating enough to get onto the council of hawks, plus subverting whoever the Delegate is then, plus a team of 10-15 people to sleep in the region for that same amount of time - and that assumes that there are no substantive changes to game mechanics and that [v] is sadistic enough to not turn off the servers and release us all into the bliss of a real life by then.

So, de facto it's impossible.
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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:19 pm

It's almost like you know the game mechanics but pretend to be complete shit at it to create a pseudo satirical look at newer NS players
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:25 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:Hello All,

Let's take over the region of the The Black Hawks. We should do this because they needed to be stoped. Here is the discord sever link: https://discord.gg/J5Wd7uM

Yeah. No. Not going to happen. You have next to no experience in raiding, and yet you want to go after the most notorious raider group on NationStates? You want to beat them at their own game? Raiding The Black Hawks would be akin to trying to invade Hell and kicking Satan out. Ridiculous.
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:46 pm

Hahahahahahaha. :rofl:
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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:16 pm

So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography
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Postby Oakrugia » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:23 pm

Blood Wine wrote:So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography

It's basically anarchy.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:24 pm

Blood Wine wrote:So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography

And how much of that is due to a bunch of trolls taking advantage of the OP's Gameplay and Discord naiveté rather than people actually remotely interested in the cause, untenable and ill-planned though it is? :eyebrow:

Y'know, the sort of nasty, immature OOC offsite behavior that leads to the perception outside of GP that GP is a toxic cesspit? :eyebrow:
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Postby Blood Wine » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:29 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography

And how much of that is due to a bunch of trolls taking advantage of the OP's Gameplay and Discord naiveté rather than people actually remotely interested in the cause, untenable and ill-planned though it is? :eyebrow:

Y'know, the sort of nasty, immature OOC offsite behavior that leads to the perception outside of GP that GP is a toxic cesspit? :eyebrow:


I mean, if it was RP it would also have happened, people love memeing
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:37 pm

Well, now the server has matured a bit, and it is clean.
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Postby Vulturret » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:47 pm

Roavin wrote:It's actually theoretically possible even without founder access. It requires about 21 years and some change, plus infiltrating enough to get onto the council of hawks, plus subverting whoever the Delegate is then, plus a team of 10-15 people to sleep in the region for that same amount of time - and that assumes that there are no substantive changes to game mechanics and that [v] is sadistic enough to not turn off the servers and release us all into the bliss of a real life by then.

So, de facto it's impossible.

Mind explaining how that would work? I'm curious.
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Postby The Black Party » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:49 pm

wth is the black hawks
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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:11 pm

Well, the server now is kind of trollish, but, the OP just keeps spamming badly-written, Anti-Abortion memes.
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Postby Pro Life-2017 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:14 pm

Blood Wine wrote:So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography


I got rid of the gay pornography!

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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:15 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography


I got rid of the gay pornography!


No you didn't. The later posts are still there, including the poster.
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Postby Pro Life-2017 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:
Pro Life-2017 wrote:
I got rid of the gay pornography!


No you didn't. The later posts are still there, including the poster.


Thanks, I just got rid of what was left.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:43 pm

Vulturret wrote:
Roavin wrote:It's actually theoretically possible even without founder access. It requires about 21 years and some change, plus infiltrating enough to get onto the council of hawks, plus subverting whoever the Delegate is then, plus a team of 10-15 people to sleep in the region for that same amount of time - and that assumes that there are no substantive changes to game mechanics and that [v] is sadistic enough to not turn off the servers and release us all into the bliss of a real life by then.

So, de facto it's impossible.

Mind explaining how that would work? I'm curious.

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Postby Moctezuma » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:46 pm

*shakes head*
*silently laughs*

Reploid Productions wrote:*looks at TBH's region page*
WA Delegate (non-executive):

Sure, you could take the region's WA delegate seat with a big enough force, a tight enough trigger and masterfully timed jump, and a lot of luck; but it wouldn't do you any good, you can't do anything with it. That's basic R/D 101 right there. If a region has an active founder, it's already pretty much impossible to take over. If a region has an active founder and a non-executive WA delegate, it is impossible to take over.

If you are serious about getting involved in the game mechanics driven world of R/D Gameplay, read and review the resources available and educate yourself on the basics. Blindly pushing ahead and making the same mistakes over and over again is not going to get you anywhere.

Actually, it is theoretically possible to destroy a region with an active founder and non-executive delegate. Example: US Military.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:22 pm

Moctezuma wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:*looks at TBH's region page*

Sure, you could take the region's WA delegate seat with a big enough force, a tight enough trigger and masterfully timed jump, and a lot of luck; but it wouldn't do you any good, you can't do anything with it. That's basic R/D 101 right there. If a region has an active founder, it's already pretty much impossible to take over. If a region has an active founder and a non-executive WA delegate, it is impossible to take over.

If you are serious about getting involved in the game mechanics driven world of R/D Gameplay, read and review the resources available and educate yourself on the basics. Blindly pushing ahead and making the same mistakes over and over again is not going to get you anywhere.

Actually, it is theoretically possible to destroy a region with an active founder and non-executive delegate. Example: US Military.

Sure, but that's just relying on the Founder of the place being stupid enough to actually get infiltrated that badly. Consiair has never demonstrated any capable GP behavior in his time on NS, actually regressing more as time has gone by. If I recall correctly, he even earned himself a DEAT recently. The Black Hawks aren't stupid, and a plan like that would not work on them. So for anyone reading this post and thinking that they can totally trick The Black Hawks into doing that, please stop wasting your time and everyone else's time. If you want to work to stop raiders, join a capable defender organization or at the very least train yourself independently to a capable enough level that you're able to work with the rest of Defenderdom.
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Postby Pollaetorian » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:29 pm

Yeah it is impossible.

But I had a chuckle when we had The Black Riders version of this thread happened and conincidently a freak mass DEAT happened to make it possible.

That they then got wrecked by raiders from the inside afterwards was a huge letdown though. I would have loved to have a seen a 'new' region using the same name surviving.

Anyways it isn't going to happen here.
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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:32 pm

Stop with this crap, OP.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:10 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography


I got rid of the gay pornography!

It sounds bad but that was probably the best part of the server, and you just got rid of it. For shame.
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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:16 pm

Hey man April First isn't for another 1 and a half months.
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Postby Princess Luna Gangleader of Boil Heights » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:19 pm

Pro Life-2017 wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:So a word of advice: dont join the server, its basically filled with bad memes and gay pornography


I got rid of the gay pornography!

Lesson learned. Don't join a server that is going to be targeted by subverters.

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