The Heartbeat of the GCRs - Five Years On

[Pergamon]

There is no conspiracy. I mean, I didn't make this up. I didn't put up a LWU flag on Lazarus and declared it a raiding UCR platform, you guys did.

Also, the NPO is native to GCRs.
So tell me, what is LWU exactly again? - Rhetorical question of course, we know what it is.
What does this say about you and your pack?
You are userite subversives. - Correct.

[Farnhamia]

This thread is about comparing the state of several GCRs through a statistical lens, not about ancient raider/defender history. Lazarus has its own megathread - a megathread - which is where that discussion belongs. Please get back on topic. Thank you very much and have a wonderful whatever-time-of-day-it-is-for-you

[The Heartbeat]

First of all, what evidence do you have that the OP is an NPO member? That's news to me.

Well, if you read the article:

Lazarus’s gain is a lot more concentrated than the others: anecdotal evidence, I know, but it seemed to be only a handful of people tarting there that gave most of those endorsements, while in the other GCRs it seemed more spread out. Almost a quarter of the total endorsements were given by Cormac, who was then kicked. Balder, the West Pacific, and Osiris all had gains, while the Pacific had the only loss, presumably because I didn’t catch a tarting spree this time.

If he's not NPO, then he's telling NPO to eject endocap violators, which is possible, but strange.

In February, when recording the endorsements from the Pacific, the data included tarting sprees from Pergamon and Aleisyr, therefore inflating it. This month I didn't have a tarting spree, so the endorsement numbers per month weren't as high as in February. Nothing to do with endocap violators, or telling any GCR to do anything.

Replying to this only, since it's decently close to the actual topic.

Why can't we discuss something interesting, like if GCRs can take singular or plural verbs?

[Fauxia]

Well, if you read the article:



If he's not NPO, then he's telling NPO to eject endocap violators, which is possible, but strange.

In February, when recording the endorsements from the Pacific, the data included tarting sprees from Pergamon and Aleisyr, therefore inflating it. This month I didn't have a tarting spree, so the endorsement numbers per month weren't as high as in February. Nothing to do with endocap violators, or telling any GCR to do anything.

Replying to this only, since it's decently close to the actual topic.

Why can't we discuss something interesting, like if GCRs can take singular or plural verbs?

I think that, also, could be threadjacking. I use them like collective nouns, so singular, unless it is saying something like
“Lazarus are rising against each other”

But then I’d just use “Lazarenes”.

[Eluvatar]

The royal we is definitely the way to go

[Solorni]

Special shout-out to Balder, where the WFE hasn’t been changed for over a year now except to change Discord invite links.

Is this considered a bad thing?

Also, thank you for all the work you put into this. Quoting this made me realize how much work you have to put into just the formatting...

[Escade]

This is fun and I especially like the explanation parts for the tables and data! Going to echo pretty graphs but to be honest the analysis helps a lot!

Also I'm kind of glad there aren't like colors because negative numbers and red seems intense.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I really enjoy seeing people cite to this in their debates elsewhere in the gameplay forum. Keep up the good work.

[The Noble Thatcherites]

I really enjoy seeing people cite to this in their debates elsewhere in the gameplay forum. Keep up the good work.

Rach in Balder’s GP thread.

[Tim Stark]

I really enjoy seeing people cite to this in their debates elsewhere in the gameplay forum. Keep up the good work.

Rach in Balder’s GP thread.

I'd be curious to know how much of those posts in Balder are Spam Games. She's been talking up Balder's post count over TSP's, but we also don't have a particularly active Spam Game section.

[Solorni]

Rach in Balder’s GP thread.

I'd be curious to know how much of those posts in Balder are Spam Games. She's been talking up Balder's post count over TSP's, but we also don't have a particularly active Spam Game section.

Firstly, it really was not a "talking up Balder's post count over TSP's" as much as countering Glen-Rhodes point that Balder was inactive. TSP's discord is over double as active as Balder's (although I wonder how much of that is spam?!?) and it's RMB is much more active than Balder's as well. The point by Glen-Rhodes and other people like DYP seemed like it was worth countering. If we're going to be completely honest, our regions are both not that active compared to a region like Europeia which despite being in an activity slump still averages more than 100 posts per day and I'd estimate is much more active on discord as well.

Secondly on your technical point, I would think that compared to our history less of our forum posts come from spam games. The majority of our activity comes from discussions on real life like "Who will win the next British Election?", "Population Bracketology", "Assad kills 42 with chlorine and nerve gas", "Uzbekistan is reforming" etc etc. Many if not all of our spam games have been struggling. In fact, Balder activity is still in the process of returning and is still not nearly as broad or strong as I'd like. Don't forget that Balder's activity average is ~55 posts per day. So 43 posts per day is still below our historic average.

So it really was not a point to put down TSP, as I respect that TSP has greater activity on discord & RMB but simply that Balder was active as well. Now I'm not sure if GR did not have a good idea about current world affairs or if he was just pretending to not know about things, but I felt it was a narrative that should be countered.

[Tim Stark]

I'd be curious to know how much of those posts in Balder are Spam Games. She's been talking up Balder's post count over TSP's, but we also don't have a particularly active Spam Game section.

Firstly, it really was not a "talking up Balder's post count over TSP's" as much as countering Glen-Rhodes point that Balder was inactive. TSP's discord is over double as active as Balder's (although I wonder how much of that is spam?!?) and it's RMB is much more active than Balder's as well. The point by Glen-Rhodes and other people like DYP seemed like it was worth countering. If we're going to be completely honest, our regions are both not that active compared to a region like Europeia which despite being in an activity slump still averages more than 100 posts per day and I'd estimate is much more active on discord as well.

Secondly on your technical point, I would think that compared to our history less of our forum posts come from spam games. The majority of our activity comes from discussions on real life like "Who will win the next British Election?", "Population Bracketology", "Assad kills 42 with chlorine and nerve gas", "Uzbekistan is reforming" etc etc. Many if not all of our spam games have been struggling. In fact, Balder activity is still in the process of returning and is still not nearly as broad or strong as I'd like. Don't forget that Balder's activity average is ~55 posts per day. So 43 posts per day is still below our historic average.

So it really was not a point to put down TSP, as I respect that TSP has greater activity on discord & RMB but simply that Balder was active as well. Now I'm not sure if GR did not have a good idea about current world affairs or if he was just pretending to not know about things, but I felt it was a narrative that should be countered.

Sweet, thanks for the clarification. It's cool that y'all have such a thriving General Discussion area!

[The Heartbeat]

Have you ever wondered about the average daily post count per month in GCRs' Discord servers, and which GCRs might excel or fall below the average? Do you want to look at a vaguely pretty graph that took far too much time? Then today's your lucky day. (You may even have a lucky day tomorrow if I feel like making these for individual GCRs.)



Bear in mind that the dips at the end are mostly due to TEP and TRR bringing the average up so much - this isn't overall post count, and doesn't indicate overall post count falling, just post count falling in relation to the average.

[The Noble Thatcherites]

I’d assume that the werewolf game was a factor in the post count, no?

[Solorni]

I don't understand how this graph is more useful than a graph showing each regions discord activity... This form doesn't seem useful to me at all.

[The Heartbeat]

I don't understand how this graph is more useful than a graph showing each regions discord activity... This form doesn't seem useful to me at all.

The idea is to show the relative Discord activity of the GCRs over time, filtering out any trends that affect them all so that the differences between them are more evident. I suppose I can make one with the outside factors remaining too, I'll post later.

[Marilyn Manson Freaks]

I don't understand how this graph is more useful than a graph showing each regions discord activity... This form doesn't seem useful to me at all.

The idea is to show the relative Discord activity of the GCRs over time, filtering out any trends that affect them all so that the differences between them are more evident. I suppose I can make one with the outside factors remaining too, I'll post later.

This graph is great and helps a lot! Thank you!

[Darcania]

Have you ever wondered about the average daily post count per month in GCRs' Discord servers, and which GCRs might excel or fall below the average? Do you want to look at a vaguely pretty graph that took far too much time? Then today's your lucky day. (You may even have a lucky day tomorrow if I feel like making these for individual GCRs.)

Graph

Bear in mind that the dips at the end are mostly due to TEP and TRR bringing the average up so much - this isn't overall post count, and doesn't indicate overall post count falling, just post count falling in relation to the average.

Holy fluff, that spike in TNP's line over October / November 2016. Wow, that's such a huge spike that it actually caused the other lines to spike downwards due to how much that upped the mean for those months.

And as it turns out... I know why there were those spikes. There was Z-Day, but that's only 15k posts, and wouldn't show up in your statistics as strongly since we had a dedicated channel that's now archived (only admins can see posts there).

So... October would be the first time Yalkan and I met on TNP's server... and over October and November we would (quote-unquote, since it was really bad) roleplay, shitpost, and generally hang out with a couple other people that joined in.

Looking through what channels existed back then and are publicly viewable by Visitors now... the two of us had 36,819 posts combined in October, then 12,664 posts in November. We also had an explosion in popularity from bot games at the time, with 15,416 posts from the bot at the time in October and 19,942 posts in November.

Around the beginning November we ended up moving to direct messages with each other, then created our own server between us and a few friends in mid-November. Damn, what a trip down memory lane.

[Malphe]

Have you ever wondered about the average daily post count per month in GCRs' Discord servers, and which GCRs might excel or fall below the average? Do you want to look at a vaguely pretty graph that took far too much time? Then today's your lucky day. (You may even have a lucky day tomorrow if I feel like making these for individual GCRs.)

Graph

Bear in mind that the dips at the end are mostly due to TEP and TRR bringing the average up so much - this isn't overall post count, and doesn't indicate overall post count falling, just post count falling in relation to the average.

Holy fluff, that spike in TNP's line over October / November 2016. Wow, that's such a huge spike that it actually caused the other lines to spike downwards due to how much that upped the mean for those months.

And as it turns out... I know why there were those spikes. There was Z-Day, but that's only 15k posts, and wouldn't show up in your statistics as strongly since we had a dedicated channel that's now archived (only admins can see posts there).

So... October would be the first time Yalkan and I met on TNP's server... and over October and November we would (quote-unquote, since it was really bad) roleplay, shitpost, and generally hang out with a couple other people that joined in.

Looking through what channels existed back then and are publicly viewable by Visitors now... the two of us had 36,819 posts combined in October, then 12,664 posts in November. We also had an explosion in popularity from bot games at the time, with 15,416 posts from the bot at the time in October and 19,942 posts in November.

Around the beginning November we ended up moving to direct messages with each other, then created our own server between us and a few friends in mid-November. Damn, what a trip down memory lane.

The conclusion being that if you're having troubles with activity, get Yalk and Darc on your server. Side effects include but are not limited to more activity, more bots and more homoerotic sexual tension.

[The Heartbeat]

It's cool to be able to bring back stories from the past, and see the reasons behind the data! As requested, here's another graph without the averages, and with posts per month rather than average posts per day.

[Darcania]

It's cool to be able to bring back stories from the past, and see the reasons behind the data! As requested, here's another graph without the averages, and with posts per month rather than average posts per day.

Graph

I find the fact that those months were the most active TNP's server has ever been, even absolutely speaking, absolutely hilarious.

[Escade]

Interesting graph! Was TSP one of the first regions to get a Discord?

[Belschaft]

Can we get a version of the graph with Werewolf channels filtered out?

Interesting graph! Was TSP one of the first regions to get a Discord?

Yup; Raven was mainly responsible for introducing Discord in NS, and TSP was something like the third or fourth region he persuaded to adopt it.

[Consular]

Well, he was responsible for introducing it to the GCRs anyway -- Worth noting quite a few UCRs had adopted it well before the GCRs moved over.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Well, he was responsible for introducing it to the GCRs anyway -- Worth noting quite a few UCRs had adopted it well before the GCRs moved over.

Pretty sure Kingdom of Alexandria was first among gameplay-related UCRs at least, even before the GCRs started switching. So Raven still introduced it.