Unprovoked Invasion Underway

[United Massachusetts]

I can confirm, I have seen them defend but like Cormac, I can't remember where so it wasn't particularly notable I guess.

We mostly are involved in the defense of pro-life and Christian regions

[Tim-Opolis]

Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.

Politically-motivated region destruction should be ruled as griefing, imo

I mean that just ain't happening.

Well that just ain't true.

Speaking as, ya know, a Grey Warden Commander, I can't recall ever working with you folks in any operational capacity. Dunno what you're calling "defending", but I haven't seen any of it from you folks.

I have actually seen them pile in defense of at least one region over the years, though I could no longer tell you which, or when. So I guess that's anecdotal and not particularly helpful unless you're willing to take my word for it. Which, I'm no fan of the region, so it's not like I'd have reason to lie.

I'll take your word for it. I think it reinforces my point that I can't recall ever working with them in any operational capacity

[Pollaetorian]

Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.

Politically-motivated region destruction should be ruled as griefing, imo

I thought in a game about politics, politically motivated region destruction is more valid than non-politically motivated region destruction.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.

Politically-motivated region destruction should be ruled as griefing, imo

Not gonna happen. If something crosses the line in terms of what they post on the WFE, RMB, etc., fine. We're not going to get into an analysis of why regions are invading other regions and which motivations are ok and which are not. The game mechanics don't care if you're doing it for the lulz or for political reasons, and neither do we.

Politically-motivated region destruction should be ruled as griefing, imo

I thought in a game about politics, politically motivated region destruction is more valid than non-politically motivated region destruction.

It would be quite strange for us to say that you cannot have an ideology to base your actions upon in a game that simulates the effects of political ideologies.

[Vuon]

Right to Life has always been an independent region, that has participated in raids and defenses. To be clear, the operation in Apartheid South Africa was both an anti-fascist operation and a training operation with NURight

Well that just ain't true.

Speaking as, ya know, a Grey Warden Commander, I can't recall ever working with you folks in any operational capacity. Dunno what you're calling "defending", but I haven't seen any of it from you folks.

If you're implying that to defend, you need to work with TGW, that's not very objective - RtL can defend without your influence, I think.

[Consular]

Oh no, people who are literally supporting segregation are being raided- OH NO!

Lol pretty much.

[Tim-Opolis]

Well that just ain't true.

Speaking as, ya know, a Grey Warden Commander, I can't recall ever working with you folks in any operational capacity. Dunno what you're calling "defending", but I haven't seen any of it from you folks.

If you're implying that to defend, you need to work with TGW, that's not very objective - RtL can defend without your influence, I think.

You aware of how defending works? I've seen RtL's military, they couldn't even come close to being able to defend outside of the Libcord bubble. Sure, someone could operate largely independently from Libcord in defensive operations, like TITO or NPA. However, those militaries are far better trained, far larger, and far more capable.

[Vuon]

If you're implying that to defend, you need to work with TGW, that's not very objective - RtL can defend without your influence, I think.

You aware of how defending works? I've seen RtL's military, they couldn't even come close to being able to defend outside of the Libcord bubble. Sure, someone could operate largely independently from Libcord in defensive operations, like TITO or NPA. However, those militaries are far better trained, far larger, and far more capable.

The ability and action of defending should not be judged or measured to a standard by other organizations to be defending; a successful defense is a successful defense. No matter in what manner an organization may defend, the difference between "they can defend" and "they cannot defend" is all it takes to be a defender.

[Drop Your Pants]

You realize this topic is about them raiding a region right?

The ability and action of defending should not be judged or measured to a standard by other organizations to be defending

Why not? You do it all the time.

[Vuon]

You realize this topic is about them raiding a region right?

The ability and action of defending should not be judged or measured to a standard by other organizations to be defending

Why not? You do it all the time.

Judging and measuring the action of defending itself and established defender organizations are two entirely different things.

[Indo-Malaysia]

Well that just ain't true.

Speaking as, ya know, a Grey Warden Commander, I can't recall ever working with you folks in any operational capacity. Dunno what you're calling "defending", but I haven't seen any of it from you folks.

If you're implying that to defend, you need to work with TGW, that's not very objective - RtL can defend without your influence, I think.

Libcord is where all the fun is at tho...

(Reminisces the days of having the orange liberator mask.. )

[West Leas Oros]

hot take: supporting apartheid is all the provocation one needs to invade Apartheid South Africa

Having an embassy with a region does not implicate relations between the two regions, especially if one of the regions collects embassies for fun.

Good post Vuori. Democracy above all!

[West Leas Oros]

Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.

Politically-motivated region destruction should be ruled as griefing, imo

True!

[Lenlyvit]

Having an embassy with a region does not implicate relations between the two regions, especially if one of the regions collects embassies for fun.

Good post Vuori. Democracy above all!

Did you really have to dig this thread up just to post this?