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Unprovoked Invasion Underway

Postby The Sons of Jacob » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:24 pm

It appears that the region Right to life has attacked apartheid south Africa for no reason besides political bias. I'm announcing this to draw attention to this unprovoked invasion. If anyone is interested in drafting a liberation resoultion, should the Invaders win, let me know.

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Postby Vando0sa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:28 pm

Right to Life is a raider region?
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:30 pm

Vando0sa wrote:Right to Life is a raider region?


It must be a recent development, since last I knew they weren't. :roll:
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Postby Caelapes » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:32 pm

Right to Life has an embassy with Apartheid South Africa. Until I see evidence otherwise—that is, a trashed WFE and RMB—I'm going to operate under the assumption that they are defending their allies in ASA.
    
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Postby The Sons of Jacob » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:48 pm

Caelapes wrote:Right to Life has an embassy with Apartheid South Africa. Until I see evidence otherwise—that is, a trashed WFE and RMB—I'm going to operate under the assumption that they are defending their allies in ASA.

No, it's an Invasion, and I have proof, source not disclosed, that it is an invasion of ASA

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Postby Fauxia » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:50 pm

Oh no, people who are literally supporting segregation are being raided- OH NO!
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Postby The Sons of Jacob » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:08 pm

To be clear, I do not condone Apartheid. However, I know I would be very angry if a bunch of goons came into Kerbin System and wrecked the place. Therefore, I am against any unprovoked invasion.

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Postby Caelapes » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:09 pm

hot take: supporting apartheid is all the provocation one needs to invade Apartheid South Africa
    
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:03 am

Caelapes wrote:hot take: supporting apartheid is all the provocation one needs to invade Apartheid South Africa

Having an embassy with a region does not implicate relations between the two regions, especially if one of the regions collects embassies for fun.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:42 am

Even if it's an invasion, ASA has a founder that just came back to life.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:32 am

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Vando0sa wrote:Right to Life is a raider region?


It must be a recent development, since last I knew they weren't. :roll:

Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.

I don't know whether this was a raid or not though, just pointing out it has happened.
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:49 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.


Ew. That's exceptionally poor form of them.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:52 am

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.


Ew. That's exceptionally poor form of them.


What exactly, the raiding part or the anti-choice propaganda? :p
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Postby United Massachusetts » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:12 am

Right to Life has always been an independent region, that has participated in raids and defenses. To be clear, the operation in Apartheid South Africa was both an anti-fascist operation and a training operation with NURight
Caelapes wrote:Right to Life has an embassy with Apartheid South Africa. Until I see evidence otherwise—that is, a trashed WFE and RMB—I'm going to operate under the assumption that they are defending their allies in ASA.

We absolutely are not. We did not have time to change the WFE before the Founder came back and stripped authority. We are NOT allies with ASA--the operation was intended to destroy the region, as evidenced by our withdrawal of embassies.

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:13 am

This region is lamenting the destruction of the apartheid regime in South Africa. Why should anybody be upset at its invasion?

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Postby United Massachusetts » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:15 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:This region is lamenting the destruction of the apartheid regime in South Africa. Why should anybody be upset at its invasion?

Though this invasion was not officially a RTLA mission, I'm proud to be involved in it. Apartheid fandom has no place here on NS.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:21 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:Even if it's an invasion, ASA has a founder that just came back to life.

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which it is

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:46 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Ew. That's exceptionally poor form of them.


What exactly, the raiding part or the anti-choice propaganda? :p


I'm fine with the first part (and their opposite ftr). The second... *gives a strained smile* the second, I equate with certain doctrines that do not, in my opinion, have a place on this site.
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Postby Caelapes » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:52 am

United Massachusetts wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:This region is lamenting the destruction of the apartheid regime in South Africa. Why should anybody be upset at its invasion?

Though this invasion was not officially a RTLA mission, I'm proud to be involved in it. Apartheid fandom has no place here on NS.

If you’re proud to be involved in it, why did you apologize for it on the RTL RMB?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=28467553
    
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Postby United Massachusetts » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:55 am

Caelapes wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Though this invasion was not officially a RTLA mission, I'm proud to be involved in it. Apartheid fandom has no place here on NS.

If you’re proud to be involved in it, why did you apologize for it on the RTL RMB?

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=28467553

I apologized for not consulting with those who may have been opposed before conducting the operation. I rushed into it, admittedly, without considering how our actions towards one embassy would affect how all of our embassied regions view us. That said, I'm still proud of the operation itself.

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:27 am

United Massachusetts wrote:Right to Life has always been an independent region, that has participated in raids and defenses. To be clear, the operation in Apartheid South Africa was both an anti-fascist operation and a training operation with NURight

Well that just ain't true.

Speaking as, ya know, a Grey Warden Commander, I can't recall ever working with you folks in any operational capacity. Dunno what you're calling "defending", but I haven't seen any of it from you folks.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:18 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Right to Life has always been an independent region, that has participated in raids and defenses. To be clear, the operation in Apartheid South Africa was both an anti-fascist operation and a training operation with NURight

Well that just ain't true.

Speaking as, ya know, a Grey Warden Commander, I can't recall ever working with you folks in any operational capacity. Dunno what you're calling "defending", but I haven't seen any of it from you folks.

I have actually seen them pile in defense of at least one region over the years, though I could no longer tell you which, or when. So I guess that's anecdotal and not particularly helpful unless you're willing to take my word for it. Which, I'm no fan of the region, so it's not like I'd have reason to lie. :P

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:27 am

I can confirm, I have seen them defend but like Cormac, I can't remember where so it wasn't particularly notable I guess. :rofl:
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:57 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.


Politically-motivated region destruction should be ruled as griefing, imo
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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:11 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Actually, they have raided regions in the past and posted anti-choice WFEs and such. I only wish I were kidding.


Politically-motivated region destruction should be ruled as griefing, imo


So no more nazi region destruction? bah
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